Vegas Video discussions from 2006 (Q1Q2)

Fred Foronda · May 24th, 2006, 04:32 PM

Finally..I am up and running full speed with Vegas again. I ended up downloading the updated Vegas 6d from sony's site and was able to install. Lesson learned: Becareful when downloading/deleting free triall version plug-ins for your Vegas!!!!

Paul Kepen · May 25th, 2006, 12:12 AM

I have Vegas 6.0D. I rendered a Mainconcept MPEG-2 file for use in DVD architect. Now, when I try to encode the Audio in dolby digital AC-3, it wants me to "buy" the AC-3 encoder - for $200!!. This comes with Vegas+DVD, doesn't it? I even re-entered my registration online and serial #, but it still wants me to buy the AC-3 encoder. I've used it before, but I recently traded in a defective mobo with ASUS - under warranty. While I was waiting for this, I relaced my 160g IDE with a new 500G IDE and used Norton Ghost to copy software (including Vegas) over to the new drive. I have a SATA raid for the Captured Video files. Are the new mobo or HardDrive the problem?
How do I fix this?

Thanks

Craig Sovereign · May 25th, 2006, 06:20 AM

I am a Tech director of a youth center and we are intending to teach kids video production this summer.

I use Vegas and we have 2 FX1's.

I am ordering a computer for this task. I am looking at an Alienware workstation configured as follows:

dual amd opteron 270s (quad core!)

4 gig ram

250 gig system drive

1 tera raid 0 media drive

Nvidia quadro 540 w/ component breakout

Dell 2405 system monitor

probably a Dell 32" HD for preview

also getting a g-raid 1 tera external firewire

I intend to capture most inhouse stuff with a laptop running dvrack w/ hdv pack.

I currently convert to cineform and intend to continue with the new system.

So, the main question is: Can I expect full frame preview with this setup?

Any other comments?

Thanks

OT - Just for those that might be interested, we are a concert hall, skatepark, cafe, and game room. We have 3 50" HD plasmas and a 6000 lumen Sony projector on a 14" wide screen in the cafe area, and a game room with 4 40" lcds with Xbox 360's and gamer chairs with builtin sound.

We are intending to live switch and record our skate competition this summer. We are getting a Datavideo SE-800 to switch the HD to the displays in the cafe, and live web stream everything out via a Viewcast Niagara.

Mark Bryant · May 25th, 2006, 07:07 AM

The AC-3 encoder is installed when you install DVD architect, but it has a separate registration step.

I suggest to make note of your registration number, and re-install DVD-architect.

Mark

Sean Seah · May 25th, 2006, 09:21 AM

Perhaps I'll resize it then. I'm showing my customers the samples on my laptop so I really hope to let them see the amazing difference of HDV.

Paul Kepen · May 25th, 2006, 10:16 AM

Thanks Mark, I re-registered DVD Architect, and now the AC-3 encoder in Vegas works again. Boy, they can confuse a simple boy like me. It just never occured to me that if the ac-3 encoding in Vegas 6 was inop, that the problem was in the registration of a different program - dvd architect. I'm sure glad guys like you are around:) - Thanks Again - PK

David Mintzer · May 25th, 2006, 10:44 AM

First of all, congrats---I mean "centers" normally dont have the kind of budget that you have to work with! Your machine should offer you top of the heap performance.

Logan Bright · May 25th, 2006, 11:58 AM

Hey hey. I have a question about making a fist punch through a wall of text, blowing it to smithereens, in Vegas. I'm no expert with track motion, though I can manipulate it to a degree - nonetheless, if it requires it, I can do it.

I was thinking on using or creating some sort of preset that simply transitioned with an explosion effect - but that does not answer the question about the fist, which is necessary.

If anyone has any suggestions as to how to create this effect, I would be very grateful. Thanks a lot in advance.

~Loggie B

Jason Lowe · May 25th, 2006, 12:37 PM

Wow! Most youth centers around here would probably have an Iomega Buz hooked up to an eMachines iMac clone.

Glenn Chan · May 25th, 2006, 12:42 PM

If you're using cineform anyways, you should be able to get RT performance with a much cheaper system. By real-time, I mean that you can see the HD footage play back real-time. For effects, more CPU is better.

2- You can get the same machine for a lot less from outfits that don't charge such a high premium on the parts... i.e. Colfax, Monarch Computers.

At the same price, you could likely get better support from going with a vendor that specialises in video production... BOXX and Promax come to mind.

You can save money by getting a different video card. Vegas doesn't do GPU acceleration, so any dualhead/dual-monitor video card will work. Some other applications do (i.e. MBE, After Effects, etc.)... see their recommended specs.

3- If the point is for the students to learn, you don't necessarily need a high-end machine. For SD editing, a 600mhz Celeron will be fine for learning. Not that it would make any sense to get a machine like that now, but that might put things in perspective.

For the same price, you could probably almost get another camera + 2 single CPU dual core AMD systems (a dual core dual Opteron might only be 40% faster than a single CPU system). It might be better because there's more kids who have their hands on gear. Not that having very nice toys is a bad thing... but maybe more toys for boys, you know what I'm saying?

Bill Zens · May 25th, 2006, 05:56 PM

This post sorta has a short shelf life, but I was wondering if anyone out there is familiar with the Seattle VUG? Supposedly, they have a meeting on the 4th Thursday of each month (tonite) but their website only goes to October of last year. I've tried e-mailing them, but there has been no response to my inquiries.
I could REALLY use this, but I hate to go into town tonight, pay for parking, etc, if nothing is going on...

Thanks,

Bill

Darryl Grob · May 25th, 2006, 07:48 PM

I have the same drive and went thru a process with Sony Support. They eventually developed a new set of 3 *.dll files that enabled the drive - with no problems subsequent. Contact Sony Support.

Darryl

Jeff Baker · May 25th, 2006, 09:28 PM

Thanks! I will contact sony for the.dll files.

Craig Sovereign · May 26th, 2006, 06:28 AM

To clarify a bit, this system will not be just for teaching. It will be used heavily for regular production outside of the clinic times. We intend to create an in-house video network where we show mostly our own stuff. So we will be creating new stuff rapidly.

Fred Foronda · May 26th, 2006, 03:16 PM

Did a search couldn't find answer so thought I would ask. What role does the graphic cards will play in Vegas and in HDV. Any recommendations? Simple terms are greatly appreciated.

May 25th, 2006, 12:12 AM	#1667
Paul Kepen Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Minneapolis Minnesota Posts: 347	HELP - AC-3 Rendering I have Vegas 6.0D. I rendered a Mainconcept MPEG-2 file for use in DVD architect. Now, when I try to encode the Audio in dolby digital AC-3, it wants me to "buy" the AC-3 encoder - for $200!!. This comes with Vegas+DVD, doesn't it? I even re-entered my registration online and serial #, but it still wants me to buy the AC-3 encoder. I've used it before, but I recently traded in a defective mobo with ASUS - under warranty. While I was waiting for this, I relaced my 160g IDE with a new 500G IDE and used Norton Ghost to copy software (including Vegas) over to the new drive. I have a SATA raid for the Captured Video files. Are the new mobo or HardDrive the problem? How do I fix this? Thanks

May 25th, 2006, 06:20 AM	#1668
Craig Sovereign Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 25	Real time preview? I am a Tech director of a youth center and we are intending to teach kids video production this summer. I use Vegas and we have 2 FX1's. I am ordering a computer for this task. I am looking at an Alienware workstation configured as follows: dual amd opteron 270s (quad core!) 4 gig ram 250 gig system drive 1 tera raid 0 media drive Nvidia quadro 540 w/ component breakout Dell 2405 system monitor probably a Dell 32" HD for preview also getting a g-raid 1 tera external firewire I intend to capture most inhouse stuff with a laptop running dvrack w/ hdv pack. I currently convert to cineform and intend to continue with the new system. So, the main question is: Can I expect full frame preview with this setup? Any other comments? Thanks OT - Just for those that might be interested, we are a concert hall, skatepark, cafe, and game room. We have 3 50" HD plasmas and a 6000 lumen Sony projector on a 14" wide screen in the cafe area, and a game room with 4 40" lcds with Xbox 360's and gamer chairs with builtin sound. We are intending to live switch and record our skate competition this summer. We are getting a Datavideo SE-800 to switch the HD to the displays in the cafe, and live web stream everything out via a Viewcast Niagara.

May 25th, 2006, 10:16 AM	#1671
Paul Kepen Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Minneapolis Minnesota Posts: 347	Thanks Thanks Mark, I re-registered DVD Architect, and now the AC-3 encoder in Vegas works again. Boy, they can confuse a simple boy like me. It just never occured to me that if the ac-3 encoding in Vegas 6 was inop, that the problem was in the registration of a different program - dvd architect. I'm sure glad guys like you are around:) - Thanks Again - PK

May 25th, 2006, 10:44 AM	#1672
David Mintzer Rextilleon Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Pleasantville, NY Posts: 520	First of all, congrats---I mean "centers" normally dont have the kind of budget that you have to work with! Your machine should offer you top of the heap performance. __________________ Red #97

May 25th, 2006, 11:58 AM	#1673
Logan Bright New Boot Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada Posts: 24	Fist Bursting Through Text Hey hey. I have a question about making a fist punch through a wall of text, blowing it to smithereens, in Vegas. I'm no expert with track motion, though I can manipulate it to a degree - nonetheless, if it requires it, I can do it. I was thinking on using or creating some sort of preset that simply transitioned with an explosion effect - but that does not answer the question about the fist, which is necessary. If anyone has any suggestions as to how to create this effect, I would be very grateful. Thanks a lot in advance. ~Loggie B

May 24th, 2006, 04:32 PM	#1666
Fred Foronda Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Hawaii Posts: 337	Finally..I am up and running full speed with Vegas again. I ended up downloading the updated Vegas 6d from sony's site and was able to install. Lesson learned: Becareful when downloading/deleting free triall version plug-ins for your Vegas!!!!

May 25th, 2006, 07:07 AM	#1669
Mark Bryant Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Bath, England Posts: 119	The AC-3 encoder is installed when you install DVD architect, but it has a separate registration step. I suggest to make note of your registration number, and re-install DVD-architect. Mark

May 25th, 2006, 09:21 AM	#1670
Sean Seah Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,498	Perhaps I'll resize it then. I'm showing my customers the samples on my laptop so I really hope to let them see the amazing difference of HDV.

May 25th, 2006, 12:37 PM	#1674
Jason Lowe Major Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Smithfield, Pennsylvania Posts: 226	Wow! Most youth centers around here would probably have an Iomega Buz hooked up to an eMachines iMac clone.

May 25th, 2006, 12:42 PM	#1675
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	If you're using cineform anyways, you should be able to get RT performance with a much cheaper system. By real-time, I mean that you can see the HD footage play back real-time. For effects, more CPU is better. 2- You can get the same machine for a lot less from outfits that don't charge such a high premium on the parts... i.e. Colfax, Monarch Computers. At the same price, you could likely get better support from going with a vendor that specialises in video production... BOXX and Promax come to mind. You can save money by getting a different video card. Vegas doesn't do GPU acceleration, so any dualhead/dual-monitor video card will work. Some other applications do (i.e. MBE, After Effects, etc.)... see their recommended specs. 3- If the point is for the students to learn, you don't necessarily need a high-end machine. For SD editing, a 600mhz Celeron will be fine for learning. Not that it would make any sense to get a machine like that now, but that might put things in perspective. For the same price, you could probably almost get another camera + 2 single CPU dual core AMD systems (a dual core dual Opteron might only be 40% faster than a single CPU system). It might be better because there's more kids who have their hands on gear. Not that having very nice toys is a bad thing... but maybe more toys for boys, you know what I'm saying?

May 25th, 2006, 05:56 PM	#1676
Bill Zens Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Kirkland, WA Posts: 191	Seattle Vegas Users Group This post sorta has a short shelf life, but I was wondering if anyone out there is familiar with the Seattle VUG? Supposedly, they have a meeting on the 4th Thursday of each month (tonite) but their website only goes to October of last year. I've tried e-mailing them, but there has been no response to my inquiries. I could REALLY use this, but I hate to go into town tonight, pay for parking, etc, if nothing is going on... Thanks, Bill

May 25th, 2006, 07:48 PM	#1677
Darryl Grob New Boot Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 11	I have the same drive and went thru a process with Sony Support. They eventually developed a new set of 3 *.dll files that enabled the drive - with no problems subsequent. Contact Sony Support. Darryl

May 25th, 2006, 09:28 PM	#1678
Jeff Baker Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Location: Northampton, MA Posts: 184	Thanks! I will contact sony for the.dll files. __________________ Canon C100, 5D3

May 26th, 2006, 06:28 AM	#1679
Craig Sovereign Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 25	To clarify a bit, this system will not be just for teaching. It will be used heavily for regular production outside of the clinic times. We intend to create an in-house video network where we show mostly our own stuff. So we will be creating new stuff rapidly.

May 26th, 2006, 03:16 PM	#1680
Fred Foronda Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Hawaii Posts: 337	Graphic cards Did a search couldn't find answer so thought I would ask. What role does the graphic cards will play in Vegas and in HDV. Any recommendations? Simple terms are greatly appreciated.