Vegas Video discussions from 2006 (Q1Q2)

Sean Seah · January 13th, 2006, 12:55 AM

Cool 3D?? Let me go check it out. The price is certainly reasonable :) Thanks!

Sean Seah · January 13th, 2006, 12:58 AM

I'm using a firewire external HDD as well.It works fines BUT I had an overheating issue n the HDD died! Luckily I managed to recover most of the date. So if u r looking for an external solution,make sure u get one from a reputable brand like maxtor (seagate now) with built in cooling. U dun wan to be caught losing yr impt videos...

Zdravko Jancevski · January 13th, 2006, 01:12 AM

I work with BluffTitler to create 3D titling efect.I save AVI file with no compression, then put the events to Vegas timeline, right click to change alpha channel from none to premultipiled. That works, letters appears as overlay but with 50% transparency and that iritates me. How to get solid letters, I mean no transparent letters at all.Regards.

Paul Cascio · January 13th, 2006, 07:11 AM

Smooth here on my AMD x2 3800; 4gb ram

I'm curious as to what a minimal configuration might be to play this file.

Graham Bernard · January 13th, 2006, 08:05 AM

Will somebody please put me out of my misery - tell me how to setup Vegas for Widescreen editing using the PAL XM2 or failing that the GL2. The XM2 can does shoot a 16:9 format - not the true 16:9 chip, but 16:9.

I'm confused between the widescreen project setups, the Previewing and the general process.

Grazie

Edward Troxel · January 13th, 2006, 09:21 AM

I haven't seen that with BluffTitler avi files. In my case, the background was simply properly removed. What if you try Pre-Multiplied without the "Dirty"?

Isaac Kim · January 13th, 2006, 02:27 PM

Hi all,

I'm trying to make a DVD from some .rm videos I have, but they do not import into the Vegas timeline.

Any suggestions please?

Thanks,
Isaac

Edward Troxel · January 13th, 2006, 02:35 PM

Yes, use some program that can read RM files and convert them to something Vegas can read. RM is a protected format but you should be able to find something on the web to convert them.

Isaac Kim · January 13th, 2006, 02:37 PM

Thanks Ed for such a quick response :)

Anybody out there have experience with RM converters out there?

Thanks,
Isaac

Ian Stark · January 14th, 2006, 03:57 AM

A comment about the USB2 or Firewire issue:

Leaving aside any debate about whether fw is marginally faster than USB2, there is a potential concern with some setups in that certain cameras (mine included, a Canon XM2) can hog the firewire bus during capture and shaft your other fw connections - eg to an external fw hard drive! There are other posts o this subject in the GL1/2 forum.

This is why all my external drives (details below) are now USB2 (or combo USB2/fw). I learned this the hard way!

With USB I've personally never experienced any loss of connection as Don described but that's not to say it doesn't happen. My point is that you need to know that there won't be any conflict between your camera's use of fw and any other device.

FYI the external drives I use are:

1. 250Gb Western Digital External FW/USB2 Combo. I had two of these but one passed away, along with much video data! (How the hell do you back up a 250gb drive, other than to another 250gb drive?? I guess this is where 'redundancy' proves how useful it is). The drive performs OK but looks dire (fluorescent pink lights in a transparent case. Yuk). Also has no power switch, you have to turn off at the wall. Hate that.

2. 250Gb Philips SPD5110CC USB2. Only just bought this as I was in need of a quick burst of transportable storage for a specific project so no comments on reliability etc. Same problem with the lack of a power switch. It says there's a safe shut down button on the box but when you come to install you discover that this only works when you use the included backup software, which I don't want to do. That bugs me.

3. Maxtor One Touch II 300Gb USB2/FW combo. This is the best of the bunch. Small(ish) case, reasonably nicely styled, the quitest drive of the three and it has a power switch!! Having experienced three different low cost drives, this is the one I will buy again in future.

All the drives are 7200rpm and require a separate power supply.

Hope this is of some use.

Cheers.

Ian . . .

Jim Sofranko · January 14th, 2006, 08:08 AM

Others have mentioned the 500GB G-Raid. A bit more pricey but seems to deliver speed and has a fan to keep it cool. Any thoughts??

Gary Bettan · January 14th, 2006, 02:55 PM

We recommend G-RAIDs highly to our customers. Just posted G-Raid info for you in another forum http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=58175

Gary

Plamen Petrov · January 14th, 2006, 06:49 PM

Hello!
I want to do this:
a footage on video track 1,
the same footage on video track 2.
Then I want to set the field order of track 1 to LOWER FIELD FIRST,
and the field order of track 2 to UPPER FIELD FIRST or NONE/PROGRESSIVE SCAN/. But it is impossible!!!!!! Vegas automaticaly sets the field order the same for track 1 and track 2, i.e. the last set of track 2 becomes the same for track 1.
So, what to do so that to get one and the same footage on the timeline with different field orders choosen by me?
I don't COPY the footage from track 1 to track 2, I open the footage twice: once on track 1, once again for track 2. But the same result. Please, help!

Edward Troxel · January 14th, 2006, 08:00 PM

What you are seeing is normal. If you want one upper and one lower, they have to be two completely separate files. Just copy the file and then put each on separate tracks.

Don Donatello · January 15th, 2006, 07:11 PM

you can use NRS to render mpeg2 files. you cannot use Distrute rendering service on mpeg2 files .. so you could assign a mpeg 2 render job to your 2nd computer ( it would render the whole job) and then you could assign a mpeg render job to computer 1 = they both are rendering separate jobs at same time. NRS will not render AC3 files ...

you can line up ( i've done up to 25 jobs) mpeg rendering jobs before bed or before you go to work and they'll render while you sleep/work ...

you can enter both distribute and non distribute jobs in line ..
if job 1 is a non distribute render assigned to computer 1 .. then it will start rendering job 1 ..
if job 2 is a distribute render then computer 2 & others will start that job as computer 1 does job 1... nothing will be assigned from job 2 to computer 1 until it is finished with job 1 ...

you will NOT have a licensing issue between 2 machines.

January 13th, 2006, 01:12 AM	#153
Zdravko Jancevski Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Macedonia Posts: 36	Transparent Letter Problem I work with BluffTitler to create 3D titling efect.I save AVI file with no compression, then put the events to Vegas timeline, right click to change alpha channel from none to premultipiled. That works, letters appears as overlay but with 50% transparency and that iritates me. How to get solid letters, I mean no transparent letters at all.Regards.

January 13th, 2006, 07:11 AM	#154
Paul Cascio Trustee Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bristol, CT (Home of EPSN) Posts: 1,192	Results Smooth here on my AMD x2 3800; 4gb ram I'm curious as to what a minimal configuration might be to play this file. __________________ Paul Cascio www.pictureframingschool.com

January 13th, 2006, 08:05 AM	#155
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	PAL Wide Screen from Canon XM2? Will somebody please put me out of my misery - tell me how to setup Vegas for Widescreen editing using the PAL XM2 or failing that the GL2. The XM2 can does shoot a 16:9 format - not the true 16:9 chip, but 16:9. I'm confused between the widescreen project setups, the Previewing and the general process. Grazie

January 13th, 2006, 09:21 AM	#156
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	I haven't seen that with BluffTitler avi files. In my case, the background was simply properly removed. What if you try Pre-Multiplied without the "Dirty"? __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

January 13th, 2006, 02:27 PM	#157
Isaac Kim New Boot Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 20	Real Media video into Vegas Hi all, I'm trying to make a DVD from some .rm videos I have, but they do not import into the Vegas timeline. Any suggestions please? Thanks, Isaac

January 13th, 2006, 12:55 AM	#151
Sean Seah Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,498	Cool 3D?? Let me go check it out. The price is certainly reasonable :) Thanks!

January 13th, 2006, 12:58 AM	#152
Sean Seah Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,498	I'm using a firewire external HDD as well.It works fines BUT I had an overheating issue n the HDD died! Luckily I managed to recover most of the date. So if u r looking for an external solution,make sure u get one from a reputable brand like maxtor (seagate now) with built in cooling. U dun wan to be caught losing yr impt videos...

January 13th, 2006, 02:35 PM	#158
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Yes, use some program that can read RM files and convert them to something Vegas can read. RM is a protected format but you should be able to find something on the web to convert them. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

January 13th, 2006, 02:37 PM	#159
Isaac Kim New Boot Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 20	Thanks Ed for such a quick response :) Anybody out there have experience with RM converters out there? Thanks, Isaac

January 14th, 2006, 03:57 AM	#160
Ian Stark Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,237	A comment about the USB2 or Firewire issue: Leaving aside any debate about whether fw is marginally faster than USB2, there is a potential concern with some setups in that certain cameras (mine included, a Canon XM2) can hog the firewire bus during capture and shaft your other fw connections - eg to an external fw hard drive! There are other posts o this subject in the GL1/2 forum. This is why all my external drives (details below) are now USB2 (or combo USB2/fw). I learned this the hard way! With USB I've personally never experienced any loss of connection as Don described but that's not to say it doesn't happen. My point is that you need to know that there won't be any conflict between your camera's use of fw and any other device. FYI the external drives I use are: 1. 250Gb Western Digital External FW/USB2 Combo. I had two of these but one passed away, along with much video data! (How the hell do you back up a 250gb drive, other than to another 250gb drive?? I guess this is where 'redundancy' proves how useful it is). The drive performs OK but looks dire (fluorescent pink lights in a transparent case. Yuk). Also has no power switch, you have to turn off at the wall. Hate that. 2. 250Gb Philips SPD5110CC USB2. Only just bought this as I was in need of a quick burst of transportable storage for a specific project so no comments on reliability etc. Same problem with the lack of a power switch. It says there's a safe shut down button on the box but when you come to install you discover that this only works when you use the included backup software, which I don't want to do. That bugs me. 3. Maxtor One Touch II 300Gb USB2/FW combo. This is the best of the bunch. Small(ish) case, reasonably nicely styled, the quitest drive of the three and it has a power switch!! Having experienced three different low cost drives, this is the one I will buy again in future. All the drives are 7200rpm and require a separate power supply. Hope this is of some use. Cheers. Ian . . . __________________ www.vit-media.com www.classicmachinefilms.co.uk

January 14th, 2006, 08:08 AM	#161
Jim Sofranko Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: West Shokan, NY Posts: 217	Others have mentioned the 500GB G-Raid. A bit more pricey but seems to deliver speed and has a fan to keep it cool. Any thoughts??

January 14th, 2006, 02:55 PM	#162
Gary Bettan Sponsor: Electronic Mailbox Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Glen Cove, NY Posts: 758	We recommend G-RAIDs highly to our customers. Just posted G-Raid info for you in another forum http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=58175 Gary __________________ Check out http://www.videoguys.com 800 323-2325 We are the video editing and live video production experts! DV InfoNet members save 5%! Use Coupon Code DVINFO5OFF

January 14th, 2006, 06:49 PM	#163
Plamen Petrov Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Sofia Bulgaria Posts: 147	Cloned track field order Hello! I want to do this: a footage on video track 1, the same footage on video track 2. Then I want to set the field order of track 1 to LOWER FIELD FIRST, and the field order of track 2 to UPPER FIELD FIRST or NONE/PROGRESSIVE SCAN/. But it is impossible!!!!!! Vegas automaticaly sets the field order the same for track 1 and track 2, i.e. the last set of track 2 becomes the same for track 1. So, what to do so that to get one and the same footage on the timeline with different field orders choosen by me? I don't COPY the footage from track 1 to track 2, I open the footage twice: once on track 1, once again for track 2. But the same result. Please, help!

January 14th, 2006, 08:00 PM	#164
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	What you are seeing is normal. If you want one upper and one lower, they have to be two completely separate files. Just copy the file and then put each on separate tracks. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

January 15th, 2006, 07:11 PM	#165
Don Donatello Hawaiian Shirt Mogul Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: northern cailfornia Posts: 1,261	you can use NRS to render mpeg2 files. you cannot use Distrute rendering service on mpeg2 files .. so you could assign a mpeg 2 render job to your 2nd computer ( it would render the whole job) and then you could assign a mpeg render job to computer 1 = they both are rendering separate jobs at same time. NRS will not render AC3 files ... you can line up ( i've done up to 25 jobs) mpeg rendering jobs before bed or before you go to work and they'll render while you sleep/work ... you can enter both distribute and non distribute jobs in line .. if job 1 is a non distribute render assigned to computer 1 .. then it will start rendering job 1 .. if job 2 is a distribute render then computer 2 & others will start that job as computer 1 does job 1... nothing will be assigned from job 2 to computer 1 until it is finished with job 1 ... you will NOT have a licensing issue between 2 machines.