Vegas Video discussions from 2006 (Q1Q2)

Brian K Jones · May 15th, 2006, 11:05 AM

I had to load my Vegas 6 on a Dell B120 Inspiron once, which has lower specs overall than the unit you mentioned above, and I was surprised how well it performed... but, it was a small project I was working on...

Ken Diewert · May 15th, 2006, 01:00 PM

I have to buy an NLE soon and need some advice. I am getting a system built which should be pretty good - similar to Boxx at $6800 but built locally for under 5k.

I plan on using the Cineform intermediate either Aspect or Connect HD. I tried the trial of Vegas 6 and liked it for SDV. What I really want is easy to use glitch/bug free editing (as much as that is possible). I am primarily a shooter so I want ease of use without dimnished performance with HDV. I have a couple of guys locally who I can bring in to edit but neither have worked with HDV. One uses Vegas and one uses PPro.

Most output will be to DVD or for TV broadcast. Edits to be relatively simple. I have always thought PPro to be a higher standard but have studied Vegas and would expect it to sufficient for my needs.

One of the major reasons I would go to Vegas is the support here by John Rofrano, DSE, David Jimmerson et al.

Can Vegas give me relatively smooth post while providing 'pro' quality edits/graphics in HDV???

All feedback appreciated.

Ken.

Glenn Chan · May 15th, 2006, 02:05 PM

An interesting way to use the unsharp mask filter:

Amount = -0.500 (values between 0 and -1 work); unfortunately the slider doesn't work with negative values.
Radius = 0.027
Threshold = 0.000 (non-zero values risk banding/artifacting)

This will give a soft focus effect, without having to do 2 layers. The look is different than glow, or duplicating a layer onto itself with the top layer at 50% opacity and guassian blur applied.

All three methods give different looks.

Douglas Spotted Eagle · May 15th, 2006, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Diewert

Can Vegas give me relatively smooth post while providing 'pro' quality edits/graphics in HDV???

All feedback appreciated.

Ken.

Yes, Vegas can/will provide smooth playback via an HDI (which you should always use for HDV) and will provide crisp output for broadcast, whether SD or HD. Premiere Pro 2.0 is a good tool too, but it really needs the hardware assist to be up to its best game. Slightly higher learning curve, significantly slower color correction and compositing tools, but very respectable as an NLE these days. Nowhere near like legacy versions, this latest is nice. However, I'm very partial to Vegas.
Welcome to the forum, hope to see you around often!

Graham Bernard · May 15th, 2006, 04:55 PM

Yeah . .thanks Glenn. I was missing out on the Radius value. Excellent! Been playing with all sorts of negatives in others too.

Grazie

Bob Safay · May 15th, 2006, 06:24 PM

Hey, I got the answer. Thanks to Douglas Spotted Eagle. "Vegas 6 editing workshop". Page 201. Bob

Brandon Wood · May 15th, 2006, 06:30 PM

thanks Lars

Glad I'm not crazy for thinking that...

Richard Firnges · May 16th, 2006, 04:19 AM

Re-installing Vegas will definetly help. But be aware that the it takes quite some time to convert from .m2t to .avi with the internal codec.

Greetings

Richard

Emre Safak · May 16th, 2006, 09:00 AM

I have managed to mess up the sound and I do not know how. The length of the tracks seems to have stayed the same, but the pitch is decreased.

Emre Safak · May 16th, 2006, 09:38 AM

Problem solved: the m-Audio ASIO driver was acting up. Using the Audio Devices tab, I switched to another driver and back to solve the problem. I hope this helps someone!

Mitch Buss · May 16th, 2006, 01:00 PM

This is a two part question, first of all, I am using a Sony DVMC-DA2 analog converter to import analog video into vegas 6. It is imported via firewire and it works great, however, wanted to try using my TV as an external monitor for preview and I managed to get the picture to play through it, but not the sound, is there any way to get the sound to come through the TV as well. On a side note, is there any way to get videos on my computer to play through the convereter, on to my TV without using Vegas at all. This has nothing to do with editing, just for watching movies.

Secondly, I have a lot of downloaded videos on my computer that I have tried to import into Vegas, but only the audio appears and no video, sometime neither. Does anyone know where to get codecs to help eliminate this problem. Thanks again.

Seth Bloombaum · May 16th, 2006, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitch Buss

...I am using a Sony DVMC-DA2 analog converter to import analog video into vegas 6. ...I managed to get the picture to play through it, but not the sound, is there any way to get the sound to come through the TV as well. On a side note, is there any way to get videos on my computer to play through the convereter, on to my TV without using Vegas at all. This has nothing to do with editing, just for watching movies.

No. Sound will be monitored through your computer's sound card in this setup, that's the way Vegas does it.

You'd need some application to watch movies through your fw converter, I'm not aware of any, but I suppose it's possible.

Edward Troxel · May 16th, 2006, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitch Buss

however, wanted to try using my TV as an external monitor for preview and I managed to get the picture to play through it, but not the sound, is there any way to get the sound to come through the TV as well. On a side note, is there any way to get videos on my computer to play through the convereter, on to my TV without using Vegas at all. This has nothing to do with editing, just for watching movies.

This is normal. The sound comes from your computer speakers and the video goes to the external monitor. If you insist on the sound coming from the monitor, run a wire from the computer output to the monitor input.

When you do a print to tape, both video and audio go via firewire.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitch Buss

Secondly, I have a lot of downloaded videos on my computer that I have tried to import into Vegas, but only the audio appears and no video, sometime neither. Does anyone know where to get codecs to help eliminate this problem.

You need to figure out WHAT codec you need and then search for that codec. You might try a program like GSpot to determine that information.

Jason Robinson · May 17th, 2006, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Takis Takop

do you think that a notebook (toshiba satellite m70-113) with these specs is good enough for vegas;

PentiumM 750 (1.86GHz,533Mhz FSB,2MB L2), 512MB DDR2, 80 GB 5400 rpm, 15.4" Trubrite WXGA (1280x800), ATI Mobility™ Radeon® X700, 128 MB DDR RAM, DVD Super Multi (Double Layer) drive

Remember that Vegas is all abotu the RAM and CPU in order to have decent quality previews. Add on too many layers, color correction, effects, etc and almost any system gets slowed down to a crawl. I would suggest more RAM by at least 1GB. 512 will get the job down, but will add to the time needed to load a complex project.

jason

Jeff Mack · May 17th, 2006, 01:48 PM

I have Vegas set up for my 61" Samsung DLP to be my preview monitor. It works great. Is there any way to do this with DVDA? The only preview I can do is with the preview control and it opens up windows media player. I suppose I can drag it to the other screen but I didn't know if it does it automatically like Vegas.

Jeff

May 15th, 2006, 01:00 PM	#1562
Ken Diewert Trustee Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Vancouver Island, Canada Posts: 1,200	Vegas vs PPro for HDV (XLH1) I have to buy an NLE soon and need some advice. I am getting a system built which should be pretty good - similar to Boxx at $6800 but built locally for under 5k. I plan on using the Cineform intermediate either Aspect or Connect HD. I tried the trial of Vegas 6 and liked it for SDV. What I really want is easy to use glitch/bug free editing (as much as that is possible). I am primarily a shooter so I want ease of use without dimnished performance with HDV. I have a couple of guys locally who I can bring in to edit but neither have worked with HDV. One uses Vegas and one uses PPro. Most output will be to DVD or for TV broadcast. Edits to be relatively simple. I have always thought PPro to be a higher standard but have studied Vegas and would expect it to sufficient for my needs. One of the major reasons I would go to Vegas is the support here by John Rofrano, DSE, David Jimmerson et al. Can Vegas give me relatively smooth post while providing 'pro' quality edits/graphics in HDV??? All feedback appreciated. Ken.

May 15th, 2006, 02:05 PM	#1563
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	Soft Focus / Glows in Vegas with 1 layer An interesting way to use the unsharp mask filter: Amount = -0.500 (values between 0 and -1 work); unfortunately the slider doesn't work with negative values. Radius = 0.027 Threshold = 0.000 (non-zero values risk banding/artifacting) This will give a soft focus effect, without having to do 2 layers. The look is different than glow, or duplicating a layer onto itself with the top layer at 50% opacity and guassian blur applied. All three methods give different looks.

May 16th, 2006, 09:00 AM	#1569
Emre Safak Trustee Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brookline, MA Posts: 1,447	All audio tracks suddenly lower in pitch I have managed to mess up the sound and I do not know how. The length of the tracks seems to have stayed the same, but the pitch is decreased.

May 16th, 2006, 01:00 PM	#1571
Mitch Buss Regular Crew Join Date: May 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 184	Video/Audio Playback This is a two part question, first of all, I am using a Sony DVMC-DA2 analog converter to import analog video into vegas 6. It is imported via firewire and it works great, however, wanted to try using my TV as an external monitor for preview and I managed to get the picture to play through it, but not the sound, is there any way to get the sound to come through the TV as well. On a side note, is there any way to get videos on my computer to play through the convereter, on to my TV without using Vegas at all. This has nothing to do with editing, just for watching movies. Secondly, I have a lot of downloaded videos on my computer that I have tried to import into Vegas, but only the audio appears and no video, sometime neither. Does anyone know where to get codecs to help eliminate this problem. Thanks again.

May 17th, 2006, 01:48 PM	#1575
Jeff Mack Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: McKinney, TX Posts: 195	Preview Monitor I have Vegas set up for my 61" Samsung DLP to be my preview monitor. It works great. Is there any way to do this with DVDA? The only preview I can do is with the preview control and it opens up windows media player. I suppose I can drag it to the other screen but I didn't know if it does it automatically like Vegas. Jeff

May 15th, 2006, 11:05 AM	#1561
Brian K Jones Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 68	I had to load my Vegas 6 on a Dell B120 Inspiron once, which has lower specs overall than the unit you mentioned above, and I was surprised how well it performed... but, it was a small project I was working on...

May 15th, 2006, 04:55 PM	#1565
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	Yeah . .thanks Glenn. I was missing out on the Radius value. Excellent! Been playing with all sorts of negatives in others too. Grazie

May 15th, 2006, 06:24 PM	#1566
Bob Safay Trustee Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 1,558	Hey, I got the answer. Thanks to Douglas Spotted Eagle. "Vegas 6 editing workshop". Page 201. Bob

May 15th, 2006, 06:30 PM	#1567
Brandon Wood Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mauriceville, TX Posts: 146	thanks Lars Glad I'm not crazy for thinking that...

May 16th, 2006, 04:19 AM	#1568
Richard Firnges Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 45	Re-installing Vegas will definetly help. But be aware that the it takes quite some time to convert from .m2t to .avi with the internal codec. Greetings Richard

May 16th, 2006, 09:38 AM	#1570
Emre Safak Trustee Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brookline, MA Posts: 1,447	Problem solved: the m-Audio ASIO driver was acting up. Using the Audio Devices tab, I switched to another driver and back to solve the problem. I hope this helps someone!