How to sync audio to video at DVinfo.net

Jeff Wisener · February 9th, 2010, 04:04 PM

I shot footage for a workout video for a friend. I used to Cameras (Canon 7D & T1i) & used one external mic to the main camera.

Here is the question:While editing, I want to always use the primary extermal mic for audio but want to add in video from the 2nd camera & wonder if there is an easy way to sync the audio from my primary camera to video footage of camera #2?

I will be editing in Vegas Platinum

Thanks guys for any help you can offer!

Ken Diewert · February 9th, 2010, 05:11 PM

Jeff,

I'm surprised that the t1i footage will look ok with the 7d? Doesn't the t1i run at 20fps?

Anyways, you'll have to manually sync the video tracks to the primary audio. I use Vegas pro and it's not that difficult, though that other frame rate might mess you up a little. Stack the two sources on top of each other with the primary track below. The video clips in the upper track will overide the lower track, the audio should mix together. You can slide the upper track around until the echo goes away. Then you should be close. It also helps if you lower the audio level in one of the tracks so you can tell which is which.

Some others will also post some advice as well

Thomas Moore · February 10th, 2010, 06:02 AM

The best thing to do, although it's kinda late now, is to set a "sync" point...

Clapping hands, camera flash etc. You can do what Ken says then look for something else that's obvious in both cameras to fine tune it.

Jeff Wisener · February 10th, 2010, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Diewert

Jeff,

I'm surprised that the t1i footage will look ok with the 7d? Doesn't the t1i run at 20fps?

Anyways, you'll have to manually sync the video tracks to the primary audio. I use Vegas pro and it's not that difficult, though that other frame rate might mess you up a little. Stack the two sources on top of each other with the primary track below. The video clips in the upper track will overide the lower track, the audio should mix together. You can slide the upper track around until the echo goes away. Then you should be close. It also helps if you lower the audio level in one of the tracks so you can tell which is which.

Some others will also post some advice as well

Ok, I got the two video tracks & 2 audio tracks sync'ed together using the sync command & turned off one of the audio so it is perfectly sync'ed.

Now the next challenge, I want to change from video track/camera 1 to video/camera 2 in mid clip & wondering how to pull it off. I can select which one to use but it does so for the entire clip.

I have not tried using a marker (never done it before) & split the clip at a given point but not sure if that will work.The problem with that is I do not think I could then use a transition fading one video to another because if you push the videos together, it would mess it the audio track & put it out of sync with the video tracks.

Anyone got an idea how to pull this off? I am on a learning curve & never dealt with editing 2 video tracks before of the same scene.

Edward Troxel · February 10th, 2010, 03:21 PM

Jeff, take a look at Vol 1 #9 of my newsletters. It shows you multiple ways to do multi-cam editing. If you're on Vegas Pro 8 or 9, search for "multi camera" in the help file.

Jeff Wisener · February 10th, 2010, 04:10 PM

^^^ Edward, a big thank you! I will read it today & see if it helps. I hope the fact that I have Vegas Platinum does not make it so different that I cannot use the info.

Your site is on my favorite list, thanks again!

Edward Troxel · February 11th, 2010, 08:16 AM

The manual methods will work in the Movie Studio versions. The script methods will not and it doesn't have the built-in "multi-cam" options found in the current Pro versions.

Jeff Wisener · February 12th, 2010, 01:48 AM

Along with the resources everyone posted above, I found this video clip that was helpful for me:

YouTube - Multi video track editing in Sony Vegas & Movie Studio

The only problem I ran into was sync'ing the 2nd video track to the primary audio that had an external mic. I think next time the best way to go about it would be to split the external mic wire so it feeds into both cameras (instead of just the primary camera) thus they would have the both cameras would have the same audio track. The way I did it, the 2nd cameras audio was unacceptable thus I was forced to sync it to the primary cameras audio.

All in all, it is a learning curve for me since I have never filmed with 2 cameras. I am sure I will learn something each time I film.

Thomas Roberts · February 16th, 2010, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Wisener

I shot footage for a workout video for a friend. I used to Cameras (Canon 7D & T1i) & used one external mic to the main camera.

Here is the question:While editing, I want to always use the primary extermal mic for audio but want to add in video from the 2nd camera & wonder if there is an easy way to sync the audio from my primary camera to video footage of camera #2?

I will be editing in Vegas Platinum

Thanks guys for any help you can offer!

Jeff, have you tried Pleural Eyes? Its amazing! and there is a version for Sony Vegas Pro.

Steve Renouf · February 16th, 2010, 06:27 PM

Thomas, I concur! I use it for multi-cam w. seperate 4-track audio and it syncs it all up perfectly!

I downloaded the trial and got so used to using it, I forgot about the end Jan deadline for the introductory price and ended up paying full whack! Still worth it though.

Brian Boyko · February 16th, 2010, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Diewert

Jeff,

I'm surprised that the t1i footage will look ok with the 7d? Doesn't the t1i run at 20fps?

The T1i runs at 1080p20, but 720p30.

February 9th, 2010, 04:04 PM	#1
Jeff Wisener Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Oceanside Ca & Bali Indonesia Posts: 158	How to sync audio to video I shot footage for a workout video for a friend. I used to Cameras (Canon 7D & T1i) & used one external mic to the main camera. Here is the question:While editing, I want to always use the primary extermal mic for audio but want to add in video from the 2nd camera & wonder if there is an easy way to sync the audio from my primary camera to video footage of camera #2? I will be editing in Vegas Platinum Thanks guys for any help you can offer!

February 10th, 2010, 03:21 PM	#5
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Jeff, take a look at Vol 1 #9 of my newsletters. It shows you multiple ways to do multi-cam editing. If you're on Vegas Pro 8 or 9, search for "multi camera" in the help file. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

February 11th, 2010, 08:16 AM	#7
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	The manual methods will work in the Movie Studio versions. The script methods will not and it doesn't have the built-in "multi-cam" options found in the current Pro versions. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

February 16th, 2010, 06:27 PM	#10
Steve Renouf Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Jersey, GB Posts: 182	Pluraleyes Thomas, I concur! I use it for multi-cam w. seperate 4-track audio and it syncs it all up perfectly! I downloaded the trial and got so used to using it, I forgot about the end Jan deadline for the introductory price and ended up paying full whack! Still worth it though. Last edited by Steve Renouf; February 16th, 2010 at 06:30 PM. Reason: extra info.

February 9th, 2010, 05:11 PM	#2
Ken Diewert Trustee Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Vancouver Island, Canada Posts: 1,200	Jeff, I'm surprised that the t1i footage will look ok with the 7d? Doesn't the t1i run at 20fps? Anyways, you'll have to manually sync the video tracks to the primary audio. I use Vegas pro and it's not that difficult, though that other frame rate might mess you up a little. Stack the two sources on top of each other with the primary track below. The video clips in the upper track will overide the lower track, the audio should mix together. You can slide the upper track around until the echo goes away. Then you should be close. It also helps if you lower the audio level in one of the tracks so you can tell which is which. Some others will also post some advice as well __________________ C100, 5DMk2, FCPX

February 10th, 2010, 06:02 AM	#3
Thomas Moore Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Ravenna, OH Posts: 198	The best thing to do, although it's kinda late now, is to set a "sync" point... Clapping hands, camera flash etc. You can do what Ken says then look for something else that's obvious in both cameras to fine tune it.

February 10th, 2010, 04:10 PM	#6
Jeff Wisener Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Oceanside Ca & Bali Indonesia Posts: 158	^^^ Edward, a big thank you! I will read it today & see if it helps. I hope the fact that I have Vegas Platinum does not make it so different that I cannot use the info. Your site is on my favorite list, thanks again!

February 12th, 2010, 01:48 AM	#8
Jeff Wisener Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Oceanside Ca & Bali Indonesia Posts: 158	Along with the resources everyone posted above, I found this video clip that was helpful for me: YouTube - Multi video track editing in Sony Vegas & Movie Studio The only problem I ran into was sync'ing the 2nd video track to the primary audio that had an external mic. I think next time the best way to go about it would be to split the external mic wire so it feeds into both cameras (instead of just the primary camera) thus they would have the both cameras would have the same audio track. The way I did it, the 2nd cameras audio was unacceptable thus I was forced to sync it to the primary cameras audio. All in all, it is a learning curve for me since I have never filmed with 2 cameras. I am sure I will learn something each time I film.