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Bruce Phung · January 15th, 2010, 05:15 PM

This is strickly for family home video. I want know how every body archive their families video. Do you archive the original footages or finish edited footages? which way to go?

Chris Hurd · January 15th, 2010, 05:17 PM

Thread title changed from "Just want to know" to "Want know how everybody archives their video." Please avoid ambiguous thread titles on this site. Thanks in advance,

Seth Bloombaum · January 15th, 2010, 05:52 PM

My final projects are typically archived as a DVD image, to facilitate easy burns in the future.
Camera tapes are kept on the shelf.
Captures and .veg are kept on a hard drive. When the drive gets full, it goes on the shelf.

This is for professional use, where the client may show up 18 months later and want to do new work on a previous project, etc.

This isn't the maximum one could or should do - a single hard-drive copy is a little risky. I really should save the .veg, at least, to a second drive.

People who are shooting tapeless go further than this. Tape is a pretty stable archive medium.

I don't know where this leaves you for family video, if it matters a lot you might do something like the above.

Marty Welk · January 15th, 2010, 06:06 PM

for my OWN home stuff i dont fret over it as hugly, a good DVD of the final is enough for me, make that 2 when important. the DVD must be compatable and "well burned" so it will play on about anything later on. I am not going to get fingerprints all over my own stuff, and i am unlikly to re-edit it. I am not going to sue myself, and i am carefull with all media, proper storage, care, and organisation.
Paying customers i never know what they will do with anything they are handed, and they do request changing format, piecing (re-use of portions) and re-mastering, so data for them must be kept in something other than an "output" format, even if i store both also.

Jason Robinson · January 15th, 2010, 06:43 PM

lots and lots of SATA HDDS. I have (at last count) 2 x 500GB, 4 x 1TB, and 2 x 1.5TB drives to store all my projects. in addition to the 3 x 320GB internal drives on my workstation.

Jeff Harper · January 15th, 2010, 09:45 PM

I use two 1TB drives I use for long term storage of everything of mine. This includes all software that I own, music, personal video, documents. The only thing I have off my storage drives are my windows OSs which I leave on disc.

The first drive is the working drive, where I save changes to my websites, etc and add new media, music, etc. then I copy the entire contents of the drive every so often to the other drive which I will reformat prior to copying. I'm extremely anal about backup. I've got personal video, photos, and other things I've been hauling around for over ten years and never lost a thing. I should add that while I"m reformatting my backup drive I temporarily store all of the first drives contents on a third drive so I always have 2 copies...never just one.

Bill Spearman · January 15th, 2010, 10:05 PM

What do you use to access the drives? A dock, or Drobo, etc?

Meryem Ersoz · January 15th, 2010, 11:20 PM

LTO-4 tape, for tapeless acquisition backed up to a solid, tape-based archival medium. $45/800 gb tape...

Jeff Harper · January 15th, 2010, 11:35 PM

One is an external esata and the other internal sata. I like to run them off separate HD controllers to lessen the chance of losing both due to a power surge or loss. They both run 24/7 because they run off a dedicated PSU (for the HDs only). In times of bad weather I will power down the drives, but most of the time I just leave them running, not that it is necessary, I just don't like to power them up and down much.

Fred Foronda · January 16th, 2010, 01:42 PM

I keep original tapes, edited m2t on a separate HD, edited m2t printed on tape, dvd, and now on blu ray. The .veg and dvda files for now I just leave it on my computer. I would take it steps further if it wasn't a hobby ; )

Arri Arava · January 16th, 2010, 10:16 PM

I have my miniDV tapes from the camera as the master archive...all fresh captured video is organized in project folders and stored on a RAID 5 array inside my workstation. older projects are moved to high capacity esata external drives. backups sit on high capacity sata drives that are piled up next to a sata dock which i use to access them. everything is backed up at least twice...even the data on the raid array gets backed up to a dedicated internal sata drive.

January 15th, 2010, 05:15 PM	#1
Bruce Phung Major Player Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Rochester,NY USA Posts: 285	Want know how everybody archives their video. This is strickly for family home video. I want know how every body archive their families video. Do you archive the original footages or finish edited footages? which way to go?

January 15th, 2010, 05:17 PM	#2
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January 15th, 2010, 05:52 PM	#3
Seth Bloombaum Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,420	My final projects are typically archived as a DVD image, to facilitate easy burns in the future. Camera tapes are kept on the shelf. Captures and .veg are kept on a hard drive. When the drive gets full, it goes on the shelf. This is for professional use, where the client may show up 18 months later and want to do new work on a previous project, etc. This isn't the maximum one could or should do - a single hard-drive copy is a little risky. I really should save the .veg, at least, to a second drive. People who are shooting tapeless go further than this. Tape is a pretty stable archive medium. I don't know where this leaves you for family video, if it matters a lot you might do something like the above. __________________ 30 years of pro media production. Vegas user since 1.0. Webcaster since 1997. Freelancer since 2000. College instructor since 2001.

January 15th, 2010, 06:06 PM	#4
Marty Welk Major Player Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: East Bay Cali Posts: 563	for my OWN home stuff i dont fret over it as hugly, a good DVD of the final is enough for me, make that 2 when important. the DVD must be compatable and "well burned" so it will play on about anything later on. I am not going to get fingerprints all over my own stuff, and i am unlikly to re-edit it. I am not going to sue myself, and i am carefull with all media, proper storage, care, and organisation. Paying customers i never know what they will do with anything they are handed, and they do request changing format, piecing (re-use of portions) and re-mastering, so data for them must be kept in something other than an "output" format, even if i store both also. __________________ ----------------sig----------------- Re-learning everything all over again, one more time.

January 15th, 2010, 11:35 PM	#9
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	One is an external esata and the other internal sata. I like to run them off separate HD controllers to lessen the chance of losing both due to a power surge or loss. They both run 24/7 because they run off a dedicated PSU (for the HDs only). In times of bad weather I will power down the drives, but most of the time I just leave them running, not that it is necessary, I just don't like to power them up and down much. Attached Thumbnails

January 15th, 2010, 06:43 PM	#5
Jason Robinson Trustee Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Boise, Idaho Posts: 1,997	lots and lots of SATA HDDS. I have (at last count) 2 x 500GB, 4 x 1TB, and 2 x 1.5TB drives to store all my projects. in addition to the 3 x 320GB internal drives on my workstation.

January 15th, 2010, 09:45 PM	#6
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	I use two 1TB drives I use for long term storage of everything of mine. This includes all software that I own, music, personal video, documents. The only thing I have off my storage drives are my windows OSs which I leave on disc. The first drive is the working drive, where I save changes to my websites, etc and add new media, music, etc. then I copy the entire contents of the drive every so often to the other drive which I will reformat prior to copying. I'm extremely anal about backup. I've got personal video, photos, and other things I've been hauling around for over ten years and never lost a thing. I should add that while I"m reformatting my backup drive I temporarily store all of the first drives contents on a third drive so I always have 2 copies...never just one.

January 15th, 2010, 10:05 PM	#7
Bill Spearman Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 161	What do you use to access the drives? A dock, or Drobo, etc?

January 15th, 2010, 11:20 PM	#8
Meryem Ersoz Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 3,015	LTO-4 tape, for tapeless acquisition backed up to a solid, tape-based archival medium. $45/800 gb tape...

January 16th, 2010, 01:42 PM	#10
Fred Foronda Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Hawaii Posts: 337	I keep original tapes, edited m2t on a separate HD, edited m2t printed on tape, dvd, and now on blu ray. The .veg and dvda files for now I just leave it on my computer. I would take it steps further if it wasn't a hobby ; ) __________________ Making Family Videos Not To Look Like Family Videos

January 16th, 2010, 10:16 PM	#11
Arri Arava New Boot Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bronx, NY Posts: 9	I have my miniDV tapes from the camera as the master archive...all fresh captured video is organized in project folders and stored on a RAID 5 array inside my workstation. older projects are moved to high capacity esata external drives. backups sit on high capacity sata drives that are piled up next to a sata dock which i use to access them. everything is backed up at least twice...even the data on the raid array gets backed up to a dedicated internal sata drive.