End of Cinescore?

Thomas Moore · December 31st, 2009, 08:47 AM

As far as packs I guess it would depend on what your needs are. Click on additional themes - and listen to the samples I "cherry picked" several but also have the full Adreniline Surge and Hyper Culture - which I think comes with the full package now.

Otherwise I tried to pick some of different generes - Rock, Metal, Wedding, light rock etc. so that I had a good variety.

Marcus Martell · December 31st, 2009, 07:49 PM

i bought CS.I canìt find such a nice instrumental flow for nature docs.Any ideas where to pick from the libraries?Too much techno music

Chris Harding · December 31st, 2009, 11:06 PM

Hi Marcus

I still find that SmartSound is a better option if you need flowing music. CS is great for Industrial Documentaries and the like but I do agree the music seems to be mainly techno style which doesn't suit weddings (even Pass the Ring is not "romantic" enough for me!!)
You might need to run SS as well so you get a few nice libraries with a nature theme

Chris

Marcus Martell · January 1st, 2010, 11:49 AM

Happy new year!
Where can i find SS?
Yesterday i tried to place my second order at Cinescore but i couldn't but my last 4 songs....How come?Today you can't even find cinescore on line....

Mike Kujbida · January 1st, 2010, 12:39 PM

SmartSound (aka SonicFire Pro) is at SmartSound Software
As far as buying Cinescore products, yesterday was the last day but, as it was also New Year's Eve day, that may have had a bearing on purchasing times.

Marcus Martell · January 1st, 2010, 01:30 PM

Mike, did u buy anything?
Now all the cinescore buyers what can do to buy themes packs?

Jason Robinson · January 1st, 2010, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcus Martell

i bought CS.I canìt find such a nice instrumental flow for nature docs.Any ideas where to pick from the libraries?Too much techno music

Marcus, this is a very common problem with loop library music, since it is easy to create techno, and hard to do everything else.

Unfortunately it looks like Sony has removed Cinscore from their site entirely. All pages and links to the product just bounce you to their main products page.

Jason Robinson · January 1st, 2010, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Harding

Hi Marcus

I still find that SmartSound is a better option if you need flowing music. CS is great for Industrial Documentaries and the like but I do agree the music seems to be mainly techno style which doesn't suit weddings (even Pass the Ring is not "romantic" enough for me!!)
You might need to run SS as well so you get a few nice libraries with a nature theme

Chris

I should point out that I have switched almost entirely to using Stock20.com for my corporate music & wedding films (what little of them remain in the business plan). You can't change the song length, but the songs come in many common lengths (60s, 90s, 30s, 15s stingers, etc) that are easy to cut your footage to fit.

Marcus Martell · January 3rd, 2010, 09:59 AM

How can i find new music from cinescore right now?

Ian Stark · January 3rd, 2010, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcus Martell

How can i find new music from cinescore right now?

I'd be very surprised if any new music is developed for Cinescore - it's reached the end of the line as far as Sony is concerned. No-one is likely to be creating new themes for a platform that is no longer being developed, promoted or sold by the developers.

You may find a few resellers of the existing theme packs, but the couple I found on Google (e.g. Amazon Amazon.com: Cinescore Theme Pack: Everything Else) were not selling at anything like the low price Sony were selling them for.

Jim Snow · January 3rd, 2010, 10:40 AM

Is Sony not selling Themes anymore? I can understand that they think Cinescore is at the end of the line and therefore they stopped selling it. But it's a little abrupt to concurrently stop selling theme at the same time. What kind of customer support is that!?

Ian Stark · January 3rd, 2010, 11:37 AM

Well, they did give us notification in November last year:

>>>Cinescore software and Theme Packs will no longer be available for purchase from Sony Creative Software after December 31, 2009, so take advantage of these prices now, or miss your chance to load up on a lifetime of royalty-free soundtracks!<<<

Jim Snow · January 3rd, 2010, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Ian Stark

Well, they did give us notification in November last year:

>>>Cinescore software and Theme Packs will no longer be available for purchase from Sony Creative Software after December 31, 2009, so take advantage of these prices now, or miss your chance to load up on a lifetime of royalty-free soundtracks!<<<

One month's notice on themes as well! I'm sorry but that just doesn't cut it. That's not a reasonable notice; it's a year-end revenue gouge hustle. Cinescore is a "razor" and the themes are "razor blades". How would you like to hear from your car or camera manufacturer that you have one month to buy any accessories or spare parts that you may need in the future because your model is being discontinued? Sony's demonstrated proclivity to leave you high and dry with respect to "parts and accessories" is worth keeping in mind when considering future purchases.

Ian Stark · January 3rd, 2010, 04:11 PM

Fair enough, Jim. I'm just reporting what I know, not commenting on whether it's fair or not.

Is it safe to call this a 'demonstrated proclivity' on the part of Sony? Have they done this sort of thing before?

Ron Cooper · January 3rd, 2010, 11:27 PM

Well, sort of yes, Ian, if you consider their prosumer cameras a few years back when they introduced a mini hot shoe on the new models but anyone who had supported them with accessories such as expensive camera microphones, lights etc. they expected everyone to simply replace them with new ones to suit the new shoe. They didn't even remotely consider loyal customers by making a converting adaptor available.

I have not bought a Sony camera since and am really enjoying my Canon & Panasonic.

RonC.

January 3rd, 2010, 11:37 AM	#27
Ian Stark Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,237	Well, they did give us notification in November last year: >>>Cinescore software and Theme Packs will no longer be available for purchase from Sony Creative Software after December 31, 2009, so take advantage of these prices now, or miss your chance to load up on a lifetime of royalty-free soundtracks!<<< __________________ www.vit-media.com www.classicmachinefilms.co.uk

January 3rd, 2010, 04:11 PM	#29
Ian Stark Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,237	Fair enough, Jim. I'm just reporting what I know, not commenting on whether it's fair or not. Is it safe to call this a 'demonstrated proclivity' on the part of Sony? Have they done this sort of thing before? __________________ www.vit-media.com www.classicmachinefilms.co.uk

December 31st, 2009, 08:47 AM	#16
Thomas Moore Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Ravenna, OH Posts: 198	As far as packs I guess it would depend on what your needs are. Click on additional themes - and listen to the samples I "cherry picked" several but also have the full Adreniline Surge and Hyper Culture - which I think comes with the full package now. Otherwise I tried to pick some of different generes - Rock, Metal, Wedding, light rock etc. so that I had a good variety.

December 31st, 2009, 07:49 PM	#17
Marcus Martell Trustee Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: spain Posts: 1,202	i bought CS.I canìt find such a nice instrumental flow for nature docs.Any ideas where to pick from the libraries?Too much techno music

December 31st, 2009, 11:06 PM	#18
Chris Harding Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 8,441	Hi Marcus I still find that SmartSound is a better option if you need flowing music. CS is great for Industrial Documentaries and the like but I do agree the music seems to be mainly techno style which doesn't suit weddings (even Pass the Ring is not "romantic" enough for me!!) You might need to run SS as well so you get a few nice libraries with a nature theme Chris

January 1st, 2010, 11:49 AM	#19
Marcus Martell Trustee Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: spain Posts: 1,202	Happy new year! Where can i find SS? Yesterday i tried to place my second order at Cinescore but i couldn't but my last 4 songs....How come?Today you can't even find cinescore on line....

January 1st, 2010, 12:39 PM	#20
Mike Kujbida Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Windsor, ON Canada Posts: 2,770	SmartSound (aka SonicFire Pro) is at SmartSound Software As far as buying Cinescore products, yesterday was the last day but, as it was also New Year's Eve day, that may have had a bearing on purchasing times.

January 1st, 2010, 01:30 PM	#21
Marcus Martell Trustee Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: spain Posts: 1,202	Mike, did u buy anything? Now all the cinescore buyers what can do to buy themes packs?

January 3rd, 2010, 09:59 AM	#24
Marcus Martell Trustee Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: spain Posts: 1,202	How can i find new music from cinescore right now?

January 3rd, 2010, 10:40 AM	#26
Jim Snow Trustee Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Santa Clara, CA Posts: 1,104	Is Sony not selling Themes anymore? I can understand that they think Cinescore is at the end of the line and therefore they stopped selling it. But it's a little abrupt to concurrently stop selling theme at the same time. What kind of customer support is that!?

January 3rd, 2010, 11:27 PM	#30
Ron Cooper Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 481	Well, sort of yes, Ian, if you consider their prosumer cameras a few years back when they introduced a mini hot shoe on the new models but anyone who had supported them with accessories such as expensive camera microphones, lights etc. they expected everyone to simply replace them with new ones to suit the new shoe. They didn't even remotely consider loyal customers by making a converting adaptor available. I have not bought a Sony camera since and am really enjoying my Canon & Panasonic. RonC.