>>Motion steady plugin at DVinfo.net

Brent Marks · May 19th, 2005, 12:56 AM

Hey guys...

I really need a plugin that is going to give me the effect of a steadi-cam

I've seen it on Premier... so I know its out there!

PLEASE HELP!

Jay Gladwell · May 19th, 2005, 05:22 AM

Check out Dyanpel's SteadyHand. www.dynapel.com

Jay

Peter Jefferson · May 19th, 2005, 05:39 AM

be aware that fast hard flashing lights WILL confuse this program.. many a time have i done a shot thinking to rely on this, and then along comes a camera with a flash, and boom, my steadyhand set shot poos itself coz steadihand literally rotates the few frames where the lighting is overexposed.

so if ur doing a wedding, and u want to get that tracking shot going around teh couple, ask the photographer to NOT take a photo for those 30seconds which your tracking the couple...

its a good program, and it has salvaged quite abit of work, but dont rely on it.

Also to achieve a better result, when using it, or when taking a shot which u know you will want to steady, be sure to shoot in interlaced mode, and to run a fast shutter..
Also be aware that when u recode back to dv from steadihand, use RAW format as oppsed to DV, as it offers the most accurate result.. ive noticed that alot of footage deterioretes not only from resolution loss (which was expected) but from bitrate deterioration as well.. so u need to configure it properly

Rokta Bija · May 20th, 2005, 12:52 AM

http://www.pana3ccduser.com/showthread.php?t=2319

I use a plugin called DeShaker that can salvage shaky video. It doesn't work with vegas but it uses Virtualdub which is a free program. Here is a quick tutorial with a video sample of what the plugin can do.

Brent Marks · May 22nd, 2005, 10:13 AM

Thanks guys...All very good options...

thanks for taking time to post

Jim Lafferty · May 23rd, 2005, 07:21 AM

I use and rec' DeShaker. Better than Steadyhand and free!

James Connors · May 25th, 2005, 04:45 AM

Don't these filters work by lowering the resolution of your video tho?

Rob Lohman · May 25th, 2005, 04:57 AM

James: yes, they do.

Peter Jefferson · May 25th, 2005, 06:09 AM

anyone know of a workaround for a Virtual dub frameserver which runs this in vegas?? auto levels and noise reduction are out, im hoping someone has worked this one out yet..

Bill Porter · July 30th, 2005, 10:44 AM

As far as I can tell - and I'm a rookie at Vegas - the only thing you can do is save out (you'll want to do it as uncompressed), do your work in VirtualDub, then come back to Vegas.

Mike Kujbida · July 30th, 2005, 11:36 AM

Check out John Meyer's Guide to Using DeShaker at http://www.dvformat.com/articles/vie...e.jsp?id=28849.
He goes through the entire process.

Mike

Bill Porter · July 31st, 2005, 02:15 AM

Yep. His process is as I suspected - use Vdub and then bring your files into Vegas once you're done.

On another note, his tutorial says this:
"Unfortunately, the excellent DV AVI codec in Vegas cannot be accessed by any other program. "

???

Mike Kujbida · July 31st, 2005, 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Porter

On another note, his tutorial says this:
"Unfortunately, the excellent DV AVI codec in Vegas cannot be accessed by any other program. "

???

It's my understanding that codec in Vegas is coded in such a way that you can't access it the way you can with other codecs :-(

Mike

Jim Lafferty · July 31st, 2005, 11:43 AM

Use HuffYUV for your movement from Vegas to VDub and back. Fast, 2:1 compression with no quality loss. Should be noted, too, that VDub's cropping tools supposedly preserve more of the original image detail than Vegas's tools.

DJ Kinney · August 1st, 2005, 07:11 PM

Sorry I got to this thread a little late. I wanted to say that there is definitely a program that bridges the Virtualdub plugins with Vegas. I've used it many times, but the name escapes me.

Anyway, there is a way to use VD plugins in Vegas, so keep looking.

May 19th, 2005, 12:56 AM	#1
Brent Marks Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Houston TX and New Orleans LA Posts: 300	>>Motion steady plugin Hey guys... I really need a plugin that is going to give me the effect of a steadi-cam I've seen it on Premier... so I know its out there! PLEASE HELP!

May 23rd, 2005, 07:21 AM	#6
Jim Lafferty Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 636	I use and rec' DeShaker. Better than Steadyhand and free! __________________ Realism, anyway, is never exactly the same as reality, and in the cinema it is of necessity faked. -- J-L G

May 25th, 2005, 04:57 AM	#8
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July 31st, 2005, 11:43 AM	#14
Jim Lafferty Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 636	Use HuffYUV for your movement from Vegas to VDub and back. Fast, 2:1 compression with no quality loss. Should be noted, too, that VDub's cropping tools supposedly preserve more of the original image detail than Vegas's tools. __________________ Realism, anyway, is never exactly the same as reality, and in the cinema it is of necessity faked. -- J-L G

May 19th, 2005, 05:22 AM	#2
Jay Gladwell Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,244	Check out Dyanpel's SteadyHand. www.dynapel.com Jay

May 19th, 2005, 05:39 AM	#3
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	be aware that fast hard flashing lights WILL confuse this program.. many a time have i done a shot thinking to rely on this, and then along comes a camera with a flash, and boom, my steadyhand set shot poos itself coz steadihand literally rotates the few frames where the lighting is overexposed. so if ur doing a wedding, and u want to get that tracking shot going around teh couple, ask the photographer to NOT take a photo for those 30seconds which your tracking the couple... its a good program, and it has salvaged quite abit of work, but dont rely on it. Also to achieve a better result, when using it, or when taking a shot which u know you will want to steady, be sure to shoot in interlaced mode, and to run a fast shutter.. Also be aware that when u recode back to dv from steadihand, use RAW format as oppsed to DV, as it offers the most accurate result.. ive noticed that alot of footage deterioretes not only from resolution loss (which was expected) but from bitrate deterioration as well.. so u need to configure it properly

May 20th, 2005, 12:52 AM	#4
Rokta Bija Regular Crew Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 61	http://www.pana3ccduser.com/showthread.php?t=2319 I use a plugin called DeShaker that can salvage shaky video. It doesn't work with vegas but it uses Virtualdub which is a free program. Here is a quick tutorial with a video sample of what the plugin can do.

May 22nd, 2005, 10:13 AM	#5
Brent Marks Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Houston TX and New Orleans LA Posts: 300	Thanks guys...All very good options... thanks for taking time to post

May 25th, 2005, 04:45 AM	#7
James Connors Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cardiff, UK Posts: 223	Don't these filters work by lowering the resolution of your video tho?

May 25th, 2005, 06:09 AM	#9
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	anyone know of a workaround for a Virtual dub frameserver which runs this in vegas?? auto levels and noise reduction are out, im hoping someone has worked this one out yet..

July 30th, 2005, 10:44 AM	#10
Bill Porter Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ventura, California, USA Posts: 751	As far as I can tell - and I'm a rookie at Vegas - the only thing you can do is save out (you'll want to do it as uncompressed), do your work in VirtualDub, then come back to Vegas.

July 30th, 2005, 11:36 AM	#11
Mike Kujbida Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Windsor, ON Canada Posts: 2,770	Check out John Meyer's Guide to Using DeShaker at http://www.dvformat.com/articles/vie...e.jsp?id=28849. He goes through the entire process. Mike

July 31st, 2005, 02:15 AM	#12
Bill Porter Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ventura, California, USA Posts: 751	Yep. His process is as I suspected - use Vdub and then bring your files into Vegas once you're done. On another note, his tutorial says this: "Unfortunately, the excellent DV AVI codec in Vegas cannot be accessed by any other program. " ???

August 1st, 2005, 07:11 PM	#15
DJ Kinney Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 277	Sorry I got to this thread a little late. I wanted to say that there is definitely a program that bridges the Virtualdub plugins with Vegas. I've used it many times, but the name escapes me. Anyway, there is a way to use VD plugins in Vegas, so keep looking.