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Brent Marks · April 10th, 2005, 12:11 PM

Vegas 5.0d - Dual Xeons, 2 gigs ram, 1terrabyte raid, 256meg pci Xpress - Sony HDR-FX1

I capture a raw .m2t file... It all looks beautiful and plays perfect.

I drop that file into Dvd Architect... It compresses for the dvd... When I watch the DVD... at some point in time... The video and audio become badly out of sync...

ANY IDEAS?

This poop is killing me!

Edward Troxel · April 10th, 2005, 12:36 PM

I have not seriously worked with any m2t files but my first question would be: Why not render to MPEG2 in Vegas? It has more controls on the rendering than DVDA does.

Brent Marks · April 10th, 2005, 03:01 PM

I can't convert the .m2t file to the more workable .avi form.... because the same thing happens... the video and audio become horribly out of sync.

Edward Troxel · April 10th, 2005, 08:52 PM

Is the project set up properly for the type of file you're using?

Brent Marks · April 11th, 2005, 07:44 AM

What exactly do you mean Edward?

thanks

Edward Troxel · April 11th, 2005, 08:43 AM

Just wondering if you're framerates are mismatched, or the framerate on that file is being reported incorrectly, or maybe the audio rate is being reported incorrectly.

Brent Marks · April 11th, 2005, 10:51 AM

I am going to mess with it more today and report back.

But this is the most trouble I have had editing.... since I was using an ISA card capturing at 320x200!

GOSH!!

FRIGGIN' IDIOT TECHONOLOGY

Brent Marks · April 11th, 2005, 03:54 PM

If I drop the m2t file on the timeline and render to anything... it becomes out of sync....

If I use... connectHD to change the file to .avi.... it becomes out of sync...

Wow, this is crappy

Steve Crisdale · April 11th, 2005, 05:42 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Brent Marks : If I drop the m2t file on the timeline and render to anything... it becomes out of sync....

If I use... connectHD to change the file to .avi.... it becomes out of sync...

Wow, this is crappy -->>>

Have you checked the field order?

If you have Vegas 5 and ConnectHD, you should be able to select one of the HDV editing presets. Even if you do select one of these presets, check the clip properties once its been placed on the timeline, to make certain everything is as it should be. (1440x1080 60i if NTSC, 1.333 aspect ratio, 16:9, Upper Field first, 48Hz stereo MPEG layer2.)

I've always wondered why Vegas insists on making FX-1 HDV frame rates appear progressive. My PAL 50i clips are constantly reported as 25fps, and despite my changing the qualities to 50 interlaced fps, the rendered clips play fine. You may find with NTSC 60i that the difference between 29.97 and 30fps could be playing havoc with the audio sync. so perhaps give that a check....

Have you tried converting the m2t files to progressive CFHD in Connect's HD Link tool before loading them in Vegas?

Not that I've done a lot of 'talking head stuff', but I haven't noticed any sync. issues with the performance clips I've shot, which is why I'm reasoning that the field order issue might be your problem.

If you're wanting to render out as a DV or DVD level final product, it is still best to set your project up with HDV characteristics, and render out any test clips etc. as CFHD intermediate, until the final render.

When you're sure you have everything the way you want, set your 'Render As' to the format that you want and check the custom settings to make any necessary adjustments.

Brent Marks · April 15th, 2005, 10:33 AM

Still no luck....

Any chance I can get someone to help me...?

1on1 in email???

resmedia -at- gmail -dotcom-

Peter Jefferson · April 15th, 2005, 11:15 AM

If worse comes to worse, get in touch with Sony support directly.
Ask them if you can send them the project files with the media so they can reproduce the problem.

Their support team is very good.

April 10th, 2005, 12:11 PM	#1
Brent Marks Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Houston TX and New Orleans LA Posts: 300	I am going nuts...Please help! Vegas 5.0d - Dual Xeons, 2 gigs ram, 1terrabyte raid, 256meg pci Xpress - Sony HDR-FX1 I capture a raw .m2t file... It all looks beautiful and plays perfect. I drop that file into Dvd Architect... It compresses for the dvd... When I watch the DVD... at some point in time... The video and audio become badly out of sync... ANY IDEAS? This poop is killing me!

April 10th, 2005, 12:36 PM	#2
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	I have not seriously worked with any m2t files but my first question would be: Why not render to MPEG2 in Vegas? It has more controls on the rendering than DVDA does. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

April 10th, 2005, 08:52 PM	#4
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Is the project set up properly for the type of file you're using? __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

April 11th, 2005, 08:43 AM	#6
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Just wondering if you're framerates are mismatched, or the framerate on that file is being reported incorrectly, or maybe the audio rate is being reported incorrectly. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

April 10th, 2005, 03:01 PM	#3
Brent Marks Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Houston TX and New Orleans LA Posts: 300	I can't convert the .m2t file to the more workable .avi form.... because the same thing happens... the video and audio become horribly out of sync.

April 11th, 2005, 07:44 AM	#5
Brent Marks Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Houston TX and New Orleans LA Posts: 300	What exactly do you mean Edward? thanks

April 11th, 2005, 10:51 AM	#7
Brent Marks Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Houston TX and New Orleans LA Posts: 300	I am going to mess with it more today and report back. But this is the most trouble I have had editing.... since I was using an ISA card capturing at 320x200! GOSH!! FRIGGIN' IDIOT TECHONOLOGY

April 11th, 2005, 03:54 PM	#8
Brent Marks Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Houston TX and New Orleans LA Posts: 300	If I drop the m2t file on the timeline and render to anything... it becomes out of sync.... If I use... connectHD to change the file to .avi.... it becomes out of sync... Wow, this is crappy

April 11th, 2005, 05:42 PM	#9
Steve Crisdale Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Katoomba NSW Australia Posts: 635	<<<-- Originally posted by Brent Marks : If I drop the m2t file on the timeline and render to anything... it becomes out of sync.... If I use... connectHD to change the file to .avi.... it becomes out of sync... Wow, this is crappy -->>> Have you checked the field order? If you have Vegas 5 and ConnectHD, you should be able to select one of the HDV editing presets. Even if you do select one of these presets, check the clip properties once its been placed on the timeline, to make certain everything is as it should be. (1440x1080 60i if NTSC, 1.333 aspect ratio, 16:9, Upper Field first, 48Hz stereo MPEG layer2.) I've always wondered why Vegas insists on making FX-1 HDV frame rates appear progressive. My PAL 50i clips are constantly reported as 25fps, and despite my changing the qualities to 50 interlaced fps, the rendered clips play fine. You may find with NTSC 60i that the difference between 29.97 and 30fps could be playing havoc with the audio sync. so perhaps give that a check.... Have you tried converting the m2t files to progressive CFHD in Connect's HD Link tool before loading them in Vegas? Not that I've done a lot of 'talking head stuff', but I haven't noticed any sync. issues with the performance clips I've shot, which is why I'm reasoning that the field order issue might be your problem. If you're wanting to render out as a DV or DVD level final product, it is still best to set your project up with HDV characteristics, and render out any test clips etc. as CFHD intermediate, until the final render. When you're sure you have everything the way you want, set your 'Render As' to the format that you want and check the custom settings to make any necessary adjustments.

April 15th, 2005, 10:33 AM	#10
Brent Marks Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Houston TX and New Orleans LA Posts: 300	Still no luck.... Any chance I can get someone to help me...? 1on1 in email??? resmedia -at- gmail -dotcom-

April 15th, 2005, 11:15 AM	#11
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	If worse comes to worse, get in touch with Sony support directly. Ask them if you can send them the project files with the media so they can reproduce the problem. Their support team is very good.