Vegas Video discussions from 2006 (Q3Q4)

Lee Kennedy · November 14th, 2006, 06:33 PM

Yeah I've seen quite a few on the net, but I'd rather wait for them to become locally available. I just prefer not to buy electrical gear over the net. Hopefully only have to wait a month or two. One PC shop I spoke to said they are trying to get them, but haven't been able to yet. And seeing they are selling the eSATA cases, surely there will be customer demand for the pc express cards.

Alwyn Adkins · November 14th, 2006, 07:27 PM

Hello everyone. This is my first post, as I have just downloaded Vegas Movie Studio Trial for a look. My current editor (Movie Edit Pro) is running out of puff with lots of files. If anybody can shed some light on the following, I'd be grateful:

1. Editing events: Does Vegas have an option where I can split an event and the program automatically deletes either to the left or right of the split (depending on the action taken by me) and then close up the gap? I'm aware of the ripple edit where if you delete an event the gap closes automatically, but I was wondering if there is an option that circumvents the need to manually delete the bit that's left first. In MEP, I can hit K, which will split the event, then delete the resulting event to the left of the split and close up the gap ie ripple. Likewise, I can hit U and MEP will split the event at the cursor and then delete the "new" event on the right of the cursor and ripple the movie to close the gap.

Can this be done in Vegas?

2. Vegas MS has 4 video tracks and 4 audio tracks. You can't use a video track for audio. Does the real Vegas have dedicated video and audio tracks or can a track be used for either video or audio events?

3. My trial download didn't include DVD Architect Studio. Does anybody know if this was intentional or a download glitch? When I try to create a DVD, all the program says is "Sony DVD Arcitect Studio does not appear to be installed". I have tried asking Sony but I cannot register for support because I don't have a computer number as I haven't bought anything yet.

Thanks a lot,

Alwyn

Edward Troxel · November 14th, 2006, 10:52 PM

1. You use "S" to split and then manually delete whatever event. I suppose you could use scripting in the full version of Vegas to create such a function. Scripting isn't available in Movie Studio, though.

2. The full version has unlimited video and audio tracks. Need 35 audio tracks? No problem.

3. Did you download the DVD Architect Studio trial? It's a separate download from the Vegas Movie Studio trial. Both are listed on this page:
http://www.sonymediasoftware.com/dow...p2.asp?DID=684

Alwyn Adkins · November 14th, 2006, 11:49 PM

Ed,

Thanks. Does the full blown Vegas differentiate between video and audio, or can you put either on any track you like? For example, could I put audio on track one?

I'll download the architect demo; I didn't even see it there. Thanks.

Cheers, Al

Richard Firnges · November 15th, 2006, 12:13 AM

Hello Alwyn,

in the full version of Vegas it is possible to have a Audio Track on top. But Audio and Video tracks are still different

Greetings Richard

Edward Troxel · November 15th, 2006, 08:28 AM

Audio and video tracks can be placed in any order. That does not matter at all. However, audio tracks can ONLY contain audio and video tracks can ONLY contain video. If you want track 1 to be an audio track, that is no problem at all (and I would think that would also be no problem in VMS as well).

When you open the full version of Vegas, there are NO tracks on the timeline. You then start adding tracks as needed. So, for example, you could have a project with 10 audio tracks and ZERO video tracks.

Simon Wyndham · November 15th, 2006, 08:43 AM

I've just come up against the nested 5.1 VEG problem myself, and I am not happy :-(

Not sure what the point is of not allowing 5.1 to be carried over onto the master timeline, but is has just caused the start of an absolutely huge headache for me on a project that I need to complete double quick time!

Emre Safak · November 15th, 2006, 10:16 AM

Do you mean that the nested file renders as stereo, or simply appears stereo but renders surround?

Simon Wyndham · November 15th, 2006, 10:24 AM

As far as I can tell all nested projects are stereo only, and when I queried the development team on this they also told me that nested projects are stereo only. Note that my query was about Vegas 7, so this is the latest version of the program.

Simon Wyndham · November 15th, 2006, 10:44 AM

Thank God for DSE's Trackaliser script! At least now I can easily render out each track for placement in the master timeline.

Emre Safak · November 15th, 2006, 11:46 AM

Trackaliser, for the rest of use.

Phil Gosselin · November 15th, 2006, 03:04 PM

Hi all,

Just finish the portion of a Lynda.com tutorial. This part was to capture, manage and render.

I understand the intermediate part but the thing is when you render in Vegas it uses "Good" as the default quality. So if I only choose the Avi type then the 1080 60i template it will be at "good" settings.

Should I use "Best" instead.

Thanks

Seth Bloombaum · November 15th, 2006, 03:40 PM

Somebody here knows the details better than I do, but, the general guideline is that you only need "best" when you are rescaling the video.

For example, rendering DV to WMV 320x240 pixels. Or, HDV (M2T or Cineform) to standard definition for DVD.

Nothing wrong with using "best" under other circumstances, but you won't see improvement in the video and it will take a lot longer to render.

Phil Gosselin · November 15th, 2006, 04:03 PM

So I should then use the "best" setting for when my work is done and I want render the whole project back to mpeg2.

Right...

Steven Julien · November 15th, 2006, 04:04 PM

Im sorry, i've searched the forum and searched vegas help and I cant find the answer. I am wondering if it is possible to add an effect to all audio or video clips. Grouping doesnt work. I dont know. Thanks for the help.

November 14th, 2006, 07:27 PM	#1352
Alwyn Adkins New Boot Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 5	Vegas Movie Studio Newby Questions Hello everyone. This is my first post, as I have just downloaded Vegas Movie Studio Trial for a look. My current editor (Movie Edit Pro) is running out of puff with lots of files. If anybody can shed some light on the following, I'd be grateful: 1. Editing events: Does Vegas have an option where I can split an event and the program automatically deletes either to the left or right of the split (depending on the action taken by me) and then close up the gap? I'm aware of the ripple edit where if you delete an event the gap closes automatically, but I was wondering if there is an option that circumvents the need to manually delete the bit that's left first. In MEP, I can hit K, which will split the event, then delete the resulting event to the left of the split and close up the gap ie ripple. Likewise, I can hit U and MEP will split the event at the cursor and then delete the "new" event on the right of the cursor and ripple the movie to close the gap. Can this be done in Vegas? 2. Vegas MS has 4 video tracks and 4 audio tracks. You can't use a video track for audio. Does the real Vegas have dedicated video and audio tracks or can a track be used for either video or audio events? 3. My trial download didn't include DVD Architect Studio. Does anybody know if this was intentional or a download glitch? When I try to create a DVD, all the program says is "Sony DVD Arcitect Studio does not appear to be installed". I have tried asking Sony but I cannot register for support because I don't have a computer number as I haven't bought anything yet. Thanks a lot, Alwyn

November 14th, 2006, 10:52 PM	#1353
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	1. You use "S" to split and then manually delete whatever event. I suppose you could use scripting in the full version of Vegas to create such a function. Scripting isn't available in Movie Studio, though. 2. The full version has unlimited video and audio tracks. Need 35 audio tracks? No problem. 3. Did you download the DVD Architect Studio trial? It's a separate download from the Vegas Movie Studio trial. Both are listed on this page: http://www.sonymediasoftware.com/dow...p2.asp?DID=684 __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

November 15th, 2006, 08:28 AM	#1356
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Audio and video tracks can be placed in any order. That does not matter at all. However, audio tracks can ONLY contain audio and video tracks can ONLY contain video. If you want track 1 to be an audio track, that is no problem at all (and I would think that would also be no problem in VMS as well). When you open the full version of Vegas, there are NO tracks on the timeline. You then start adding tracks as needed. So, for example, you could have a project with 10 audio tracks and ZERO video tracks. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

November 15th, 2006, 03:04 PM	#1362
Phil Gosselin Major Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Quebec, Canada Posts: 211	Quick intermediate codec question. Hi all, Just finish the portion of a Lynda.com tutorial. This part was to capture, manage and render. I understand the intermediate part but the thing is when you render in Vegas it uses "Good" as the default quality. So if I only choose the Avi type then the 1080 60i template it will be at "good" settings. Should I use "Best" instead. Thanks

November 15th, 2006, 04:04 PM	#1365
Steven Julien New Boot Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 20	can you add an fx to all clips? Im sorry, i've searched the forum and searched vegas help and I cant find the answer. I am wondering if it is possible to add an effect to all audio or video clips. Grouping doesnt work. I dont know. Thanks for the help.

November 14th, 2006, 06:33 PM	#1351
Lee Kennedy Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 28	Yeah I've seen quite a few on the net, but I'd rather wait for them to become locally available. I just prefer not to buy electrical gear over the net. Hopefully only have to wait a month or two. One PC shop I spoke to said they are trying to get them, but haven't been able to yet. And seeing they are selling the eSATA cases, surely there will be customer demand for the pc express cards.

November 14th, 2006, 11:49 PM	#1354
Alwyn Adkins New Boot Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 5	Ed, Thanks. Does the full blown Vegas differentiate between video and audio, or can you put either on any track you like? For example, could I put audio on track one? I'll download the architect demo; I didn't even see it there. Thanks. Cheers, Al

November 15th, 2006, 12:13 AM	#1355
Richard Firnges Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 45	Hello Alwyn, in the full version of Vegas it is possible to have a Audio Track on top. But Audio and Video tracks are still different Greetings Richard

November 15th, 2006, 08:43 AM	#1357
Simon Wyndham Trustee Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Malvern UK Posts: 1,931	I've just come up against the nested 5.1 VEG problem myself, and I am not happy :-( Not sure what the point is of not allowing 5.1 to be carried over onto the master timeline, but is has just caused the start of an absolutely huge headache for me on a project that I need to complete double quick time!

November 15th, 2006, 10:16 AM	#1358
Emre Safak Trustee Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brookline, MA Posts: 1,447	Do you mean that the nested file renders as stereo, or simply appears stereo but renders surround?

November 15th, 2006, 10:24 AM	#1359
Simon Wyndham Trustee Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Malvern UK Posts: 1,931	As far as I can tell all nested projects are stereo only, and when I queried the development team on this they also told me that nested projects are stereo only. Note that my query was about Vegas 7, so this is the latest version of the program.

November 15th, 2006, 10:44 AM	#1360
Simon Wyndham Trustee Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Malvern UK Posts: 1,931	Thank God for DSE's Trackaliser script! At least now I can easily render out each track for placement in the master timeline.

November 15th, 2006, 11:46 AM	#1361
Emre Safak Trustee Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brookline, MA Posts: 1,447	Trackaliser, for the rest of use.

November 15th, 2006, 03:40 PM	#1363
Seth Bloombaum Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,420	Somebody here knows the details better than I do, but, the general guideline is that you only need "best" when you are rescaling the video. For example, rendering DV to WMV 320x240 pixels. Or, HDV (M2T or Cineform) to standard definition for DVD. Nothing wrong with using "best" under other circumstances, but you won't see improvement in the video and it will take a lot longer to render.

November 15th, 2006, 04:03 PM	#1364
Phil Gosselin Major Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Quebec, Canada Posts: 211	So I should then use the "best" setting for when my work is done and I want render the whole project back to mpeg2. Right...