Vegas Video discussions from 2006 (Q3Q4)

Jack Zhang · October 13th, 2006, 10:19 PM

I'll try to do that and all of my videos are CBR so I know the bitrate of for all of my .wmv files.

Ron German · October 14th, 2006, 09:42 AM

Hi
I just instaled Vegas 7.0b and hasn`t found the option in the template and to render to HDV 720 24p that I intend to use with my JVC HD 100a.
Should I do this template and render option myself and it`s going to work?
Thanks
Ron

David Jimerson · October 14th, 2006, 03:54 PM

You can still preview out. If it's raw footage which isn't recompressed (as in, no effects on it), it'll look stretched vertically in the preview -- but if it's recompressed, it'll appear as 16:9 letterboxed.

Justine Haupt · October 14th, 2006, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Jimerson

Yeah -- for the most part, unless you're looking at the window bar, you wouldn't be able to tell which version you're in.

That's exactly it... if there were any more features I sure haven't touched or found a need for them, and v6 takes twice as long to load up and has the computer "chattering" a few minutes after I close it.

v5 is just less power hungry.

David Jimerson · October 14th, 2006, 05:39 PM

Disable the Media Manager, and those problems go away.

Then, you can take advantage of things like project nesting.

George David · October 14th, 2006, 09:57 PM

Ron, just select the HDV 25p option and change the frame rate to 23.976 and then save/rename it as your own. It would definitely work fine.

Jack Zhang · October 15th, 2006, 01:11 AM

Ok, I just tried re-encoding my files with a audio stream: Didn't work...

Tried transcoding in VLC: first 6-10 seconds is always skipped out!!!

Edit: Actually, I'm having a symptom that Sony was trying to prevent in 7.0b.

"Fixed a problem that could cause a frame stutter when reading some Windows Media Video files"... NOT.

I've downgraded to Vegas 7.0a and the video's no longer stuttering, BUT, when I render a composited scene in .wmv, full streams were sometimes fully ignored!

I've re-upgraded to 7.0b and am still waiting for a solution to this bug that makes video only .wmv files play like a really bad 24p to 30p conversion in both preview and rendering.

Adi Head · October 15th, 2006, 02:16 AM

Hi. I have what seems to be a simple, but pressing matter at hand. There's a 223 MB .avi file (exactly one minute long, includes audio) and I'm trying to Render it on Vegas 6 as an mpg so that it weighs no more than 6 MB.

I have to submit the file and the company I'm sending it to specifically state that the file must be no larger than 6 MB.

In the "Render As..." dialogue box, I selected "Custom..." and under the Video tab, tried decreasing frame size and the video quality. But no matter which frame size or video quality I choose, the outcome is ALWAYS a 14.3 MB file.

1. How can I get that file down to under 6 MB?
2. How is it that varying frame size and/or video quality, has no affect on file size?

Thanks!!!

Jack Zhang · October 15th, 2006, 05:11 AM

You must decrease the bitrate to make the file size smaller.

Adi Head · October 15th, 2006, 08:32 AM

Thanks! i got it.

Ron German · October 15th, 2006, 09:12 AM

David
Thank you for your response. That was what I had though.
Best
Ron

Jon McGuffin · October 15th, 2006, 05:08 PM

New to video editing, I'm using a two camera setup and am shooting local bands. Both cameras are HDV Sony HDR-FX1 camera's and I'm trying to edit video in Vegas 7 but am having a very hard time switching back and forth between the videos both on the time line.

Does anybody know of a very good, relatively inexpensive tutorial for getting up and running with Vegas 7?

Any help is greatly appreciated,

Jon

John Rofrano · October 15th, 2006, 05:51 PM

It sounds like you need a multi-camera editing plug-in. If you only have two cameras you can use the free DoubleTake script from VASST. If you need more cameras there is also VASST infinitiCAM, VASST Ultimate S, and Excalibur from Edward Troxel. Using any of these scripts will make quick work of a multi-camera edit. Here is a tutorial for using Doubletake.

~jr

Jack Zhang · October 15th, 2006, 06:37 PM

Wait a sec, I just checked another wmv file with Video and Audio and it stuttered too! Is it something to do with the encoder?

Terribly sorry for the triple post...

Seth Bloombaum · October 16th, 2006, 12:03 AM

Jack, there really isn't enough info here... somehow you need to narrow in on where the problem is.

Output some DV-AVIs from Vegas and take them through the freeware Windows Media Encoder from Microsoft. Use identical settings on the same AVI for WM output from Vegas and see what you get. Try it from 6, 7...

Are these playback issues showing up on just your encoding machine? Have you tried the files on other PCs? Do you restart your encoding machine, or just go to standby or hibernate?

Sorry I can't be of more direct help.

October 14th, 2006, 09:42 AM	#1067
Ron German Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Rio de Janeiro - Brasil Posts: 304	Vegas 7.0b and HDV 720 24p Hi I just instaled Vegas 7.0b and hasn`t found the option in the template and to render to HDV 720 24p that I intend to use with my JVC HD 100a. Should I do this template and render option myself and it`s going to work? Thanks Ron

October 14th, 2006, 03:54 PM	#1068
David Jimerson Jubal 28 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 872	You can still preview out. If it's raw footage which isn't recompressed (as in, no effects on it), it'll look stretched vertically in the preview -- but if it's recompressed, it'll appear as 16:9 letterboxed. __________________ www.wrightsvillebeachstudios.com

October 14th, 2006, 05:39 PM	#1070
David Jimerson Jubal 28 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 872	Disable the Media Manager, and those problems go away. Then, you can take advantage of things like project nesting. __________________ www.wrightsvillebeachstudios.com

October 15th, 2006, 01:11 AM	#1072
Jack Zhang Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Burnaby, BC, Canada Posts: 3,053	Ok, I just tried re-encoding my files with a audio stream: Didn't work... Tried transcoding in VLC: first 6-10 seconds is always skipped out!!! Edit: Actually, I'm having a symptom that Sony was trying to prevent in 7.0b. "Fixed a problem that could cause a frame stutter when reading some Windows Media Video files"... NOT. I've downgraded to Vegas 7.0a and the video's no longer stuttering, BUT, when I render a composited scene in .wmv, full streams were sometimes fully ignored! I've re-upgraded to 7.0b and am still waiting for a solution to this bug that makes video only .wmv files play like a really bad 24p to 30p conversion in both preview and rendering. Last edited by Jack Zhang; October 15th, 2006 at 03:43 AM.

October 15th, 2006, 02:16 AM	#1073
Adi Head Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 642	Urgent! Must get file size under 6MB... BY NOON. Hi. I have what seems to be a simple, but pressing matter at hand. There's a 223 MB .avi file (exactly one minute long, includes audio) and I'm trying to Render it on Vegas 6 as an mpg so that it weighs no more than 6 MB. I have to submit the file and the company I'm sending it to specifically state that the file must be no larger than 6 MB. In the "Render As..." dialogue box, I selected "Custom..." and under the Video tab, tried decreasing frame size and the video quality. But no matter which frame size or video quality I choose, the outcome is ALWAYS a 14.3 MB file. 1. How can I get that file down to under 6 MB? 2. How is it that varying frame size and/or video quality, has no affect on file size? Thanks!!!

October 13th, 2006, 10:19 PM	#1066
Jack Zhang Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Burnaby, BC, Canada Posts: 3,053	I'll try to do that and all of my videos are CBR so I know the bitrate of for all of my .wmv files.

October 14th, 2006, 09:57 PM	#1071
George David Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 150	Ron, just select the HDV 25p option and change the frame rate to 23.976 and then save/rename it as your own. It would definitely work fine.

October 15th, 2006, 05:11 AM	#1074
Jack Zhang Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Burnaby, BC, Canada Posts: 3,053	You must decrease the bitrate to make the file size smaller.

October 15th, 2006, 08:32 AM	#1075
Adi Head Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 642	Thanks! i got it.

October 15th, 2006, 09:12 AM	#1076
Ron German Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Rio de Janeiro - Brasil Posts: 304	David Thank you for your response. That was what I had though. Best Ron

October 15th, 2006, 05:08 PM	#1077
Jon McGuffin Major Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Carlsbad, CA Posts: 634	Vegas 7 Help.. New to video editing, I'm using a two camera setup and am shooting local bands. Both cameras are HDV Sony HDR-FX1 camera's and I'm trying to edit video in Vegas 7 but am having a very hard time switching back and forth between the videos both on the time line. Does anybody know of a very good, relatively inexpensive tutorial for getting up and running with Vegas 7? Any help is greatly appreciated, Jon

October 15th, 2006, 05:51 PM	#1078
John Rofrano Sponsor: VASST Join Date: May 2005 Location: New York Posts: 516	It sounds like you need a multi-camera editing plug-in. If you only have two cameras you can use the free DoubleTake script from VASST. If you need more cameras there is also VASST infinitiCAM, VASST Ultimate S, and Excalibur from Edward Troxel. Using any of these scripts will make quick work of a multi-camera edit. Here is a tutorial for using Doubletake. ~jr __________________ Developer: VASST Ultimate S, Scattershot 3D, Mayhem, FASST Apps, and other VASST Software plug-ins Web Site: www.johnrofrano.com

October 15th, 2006, 06:37 PM	#1079
Jack Zhang Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Burnaby, BC, Canada Posts: 3,053	Wait a sec, I just checked another wmv file with Video and Audio and it stuttered too! Is it something to do with the encoder? Terribly sorry for the triple post...

October 16th, 2006, 12:03 AM	#1080
Seth Bloombaum Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,420	Jack, there really isn't enough info here... somehow you need to narrow in on where the problem is. Output some DV-AVIs from Vegas and take them through the freeware Windows Media Encoder from Microsoft. Use identical settings on the same AVI for WM output from Vegas and see what you get. Try it from 6, 7... Are these playback issues showing up on just your encoding machine? Have you tried the files on other PCs? Do you restart your encoding machine, or just go to standby or hibernate? Sorry I can't be of more direct help.