Vegas Video discussions from 2006 (Q3Q4)

Emre Safak · October 11th, 2006, 09:40 AM

Madison Media is incredibly good at issuing updates. I have not even had a chance to evaluate version 7 yet and they are on their second revision!

Edward Troxel · October 11th, 2006, 10:40 AM

Chris, you have a bad download. Download it again.

Chris Barcellos · October 11th, 2006, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Troxel

Chris, you have a bad download. Download it again.

Thanks, Ed. Will try again...

Tam Mullen · October 11th, 2006, 12:35 PM

Pretty much as the subject, just wondering if its possible to display the currents clips name (eg testavi0001.avi) as an onscreen graphic.
I want to show some test clips to people and have them pick from them, makes it easier for me if they refered to them by the filename!

Edward Troxel · October 11th, 2006, 01:02 PM

The Quick Label tool in Excalibur will do that. You can do it in DVD Architect, though. Just create a slide show there and you can turn on displaying the file name.

Plamen Petrov · October 11th, 2006, 02:50 PM

I use PAL DV Cam 25fps interlaced, so I use PAL DV project in Vegas. The result is ok, but I really want to avoid the typical clear&smooth movement of the video taken from any DV cam. That's why I used so many options and projects, also Framerate Converter HQ so that to change the framerate, then to put it on Vegas and then to render again to 25fps interlaced. I just tried to do analogy with 29.97fps -> 23,976fps (filmlook). That's why I converted my raw footage to 30fps, then on Vegas render to 25fps. Anyway, whatever I do, the result is flickering & stuttering rendered video file. Ok, I see on TV so many movies and clips that are in progressive and they have visible flickering, but it is very little, while on my videos the flickering is too much visible. SO, what is the best so that to make the footage look like progressive but with weak flickering? I hope you understand what I mean.

Emre Safak · October 11th, 2006, 03:10 PM

I'd leave it at 25fps and simply add a mild motion blur.

Plamen Petrov · October 11th, 2006, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Emre Safak

I'd leave it at 25fps and simply add a mild motion blur.

How??? Please give some examples, I'd appreciate it.

Kyle Ringin · October 11th, 2006, 03:50 PM

Have you tried just deinterlacing it?
I have good results with Mike Crash's Deinterlace Filter for Vegas - I haven't found the flickering to be excessive, but that's me.

Kyle

Stephen Sobel · October 11th, 2006, 03:51 PM

I currently have Vegas 6, and am trying to decide whether or not to upgrade to Vegas 7. Are both of them compatible with Windows Vista?

Plamen Petrov · October 11th, 2006, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle Ringin

Have you tried just deinterlacing it?
I have good results with Mike Crash's Deinterlace Filter for Vegas - I haven't found the flickering to be excessive, but that's me.

Kyle

Oh, I have that filter but I dont use it bcoz whatever I do it is still the same. Also I cant undestand about deinterlacing: why do I need to deinterlace if I use interlace TV??? Would you explain more about that?

Justine Haupt · October 11th, 2006, 06:04 PM

Thanks for the replies... The cuts and dissolves only option would have worked in hindsight, but I actually wound up just dowloading the Vegas 6 trial, which works full featured for 30 days (longer than I need it), at the editor's suggestion.

On another note, I decided I much prefer version 5.

Kyle Ringin · October 11th, 2006, 06:58 PM

You don't have to. If your output is going to be an interlaced TV then the main reason you would deinterlace is to give the video the look and feel of progressive (and filmish sort of cadence...).

What is your footage of - is it fast pans and high action? progressive at 25fps will probably look stuttery then, whereas the original interlaced footage will be smooth.

It sounds like you want a sort of middle ground between smooth and stuttery, is that right?

You could try some of the avisynth filters, although I can't recommend any particular ones. A quick search should find numerous ones you could try.

Kyle

Lee Kennedy · October 11th, 2006, 07:01 PM

2000 clips sounds good to me. Still feel a patch would of been nice for vegas 6 users to solve this. I've got VMS Platinum 6 currently, might consider the ull version of 7 in the future seeing its the same price to upgrade to VMS7 from movie studio or platinum despite platinum costing more.

Thanks for the info doug

Edward Troxel · October 11th, 2006, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin Haupt

On another note, I decided I much prefer version 5.

Really? Why?

They're both basically the same (workflow wise) except Vegas 6 has more features.

October 11th, 2006, 10:40 AM	#1037
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Chris, you have a bad download. Download it again. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

October 11th, 2006, 12:35 PM	#1039
Tam Mullen Tourist Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Belfast, Northern Ireland Posts: 3	Clip filename displayed as onscreen title? Pretty much as the subject, just wondering if its possible to display the currents clips name (eg testavi0001.avi) as an onscreen graphic. I want to show some test clips to people and have them pick from them, makes it easier for me if they refered to them by the filename!

October 11th, 2006, 01:02 PM	#1040
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	The Quick Label tool in Excalibur will do that. You can do it in DVD Architect, though. Just create a slide show there and you can turn on displaying the file name. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

October 11th, 2006, 02:50 PM	#1041
Plamen Petrov Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Sofia Bulgaria Posts: 147	Interlace fixing I use PAL DV Cam 25fps interlaced, so I use PAL DV project in Vegas. The result is ok, but I really want to avoid the typical clear&smooth movement of the video taken from any DV cam. That's why I used so many options and projects, also Framerate Converter HQ so that to change the framerate, then to put it on Vegas and then to render again to 25fps interlaced. I just tried to do analogy with 29.97fps -> 23,976fps (filmlook). That's why I converted my raw footage to 30fps, then on Vegas render to 25fps. Anyway, whatever I do, the result is flickering & stuttering rendered video file. Ok, I see on TV so many movies and clips that are in progressive and they have visible flickering, but it is very little, while on my videos the flickering is too much visible. SO, what is the best so that to make the footage look like progressive but with weak flickering? I hope you understand what I mean.

October 11th, 2006, 03:51 PM	#1045
Stephen Sobel Major Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 408	Vegas 6 and 7 and Windows Vista I currently have Vegas 6, and am trying to decide whether or not to upgrade to Vegas 7. Are both of them compatible with Windows Vista?

October 11th, 2006, 09:40 AM	#1036
Emre Safak Trustee Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brookline, MA Posts: 1,447	Madison Media is incredibly good at issuing updates. I have not even had a chance to evaluate version 7 yet and they are on their second revision!

October 11th, 2006, 03:10 PM	#1042
Emre Safak Trustee Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brookline, MA Posts: 1,447	I'd leave it at 25fps and simply add a mild motion blur.

October 11th, 2006, 03:50 PM	#1044
Kyle Ringin Major Player Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 241	Have you tried just deinterlacing it? I have good results with Mike Crash's Deinterlace Filter for Vegas - I haven't found the flickering to be excessive, but that's me. Kyle

October 11th, 2006, 06:04 PM	#1047
Justine Haupt Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 208	Thanks for the replies... The cuts and dissolves only option would have worked in hindsight, but I actually wound up just dowloading the Vegas 6 trial, which works full featured for 30 days (longer than I need it), at the editor's suggestion. On another note, I decided I much prefer version 5. __________________ ~Justine "We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams" -Arthur O'Shaunessey (as quoted by Willy Wonka)

October 11th, 2006, 06:58 PM	#1048
Kyle Ringin Major Player Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 241	You don't have to. If your output is going to be an interlaced TV then the main reason you would deinterlace is to give the video the look and feel of progressive (and filmish sort of cadence...). What is your footage of - is it fast pans and high action? progressive at 25fps will probably look stuttery then, whereas the original interlaced footage will be smooth. It sounds like you want a sort of middle ground between smooth and stuttery, is that right? You could try some of the avisynth filters, although I can't recommend any particular ones. A quick search should find numerous ones you could try. Kyle

October 11th, 2006, 07:01 PM	#1049
Lee Kennedy Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 28	2000 clips sounds good to me. Still feel a patch would of been nice for vegas 6 users to solve this. I've got VMS Platinum 6 currently, might consider the ull version of 7 in the future seeing its the same price to upgrade to VMS7 from movie studio or platinum despite platinum costing more. Thanks for the info doug