Vegas Video discussions from 2006 (Q3Q4)

Dale Lundy · August 14th, 2006, 09:14 PM

Thanks for everyone's suggestions. As Edward surmised, it turned out I had turned split screen on unbeknownst to me -- probably due to the fact that lately my mouse seems to have a mind of its own. Well, that's one way to learn about split screen. Again, thanks much!

James Sarte · August 14th, 2006, 11:06 PM

Anyone? Perhaps I posted this in the wrong section?

Kevin Richard · August 15th, 2006, 12:15 AM

Damn Edward and his spot on terminology, stealing my thunder :p J/K

Glad you got it resolved

Chris Hurd · August 15th, 2006, 05:42 AM

Moved to Vegas forum.

Edward Troxel · August 15th, 2006, 07:54 AM

No hardware acceleration cards work with Vegas. It really doesn't need them. As for multiple CPU's, yes it will use them.

James Sarte · August 15th, 2006, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Troxel

No hardware acceleration cards work with Vegas. It really doesn't need them. As for multiple CPU's, yes it will use them.

Interesting. I have been using this software on my AMD box with a 3800+ X2 CPU. I noticed that only one core seems to get used most when previewing in the timeline. Perhaps both cores will be used more when actually rendering the video to final?

Also - too bad about no hardware video acceleration. I have two Nvidia cards connected in an SLI configuration, and it would have been nice to have harnessed some of that power, at least while previewing in the timeline.

Jason Robinson · August 15th, 2006, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Troxel

Q1: Yes, you need to render the whole thing again unless you use some other program that can cut MPEG2 without re-rendering.

Q2: Yes, you can "End Action" from the first one to the second one. There will be a slight delay as this happens and the length of the delay will vary from player to player.

Q3: It's "safe" but the quality won't be as good as it would be using the original files. Just try it and see if it looks fine to you.

You can also create a playlist in DVDA o that multiple media items are linked together. These are a bit of a pain in the butt to create chapter menus from, but it can still be done.

I just found the easiest is to spend lots of time proofing while viewing inside of Vegas adn then render the big file once. Of course that doesn't always work out, but it does save on render times and saves frustration working in DVDA.

jason

Jason Robinson · August 15th, 2006, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Troxel

My guess would be that you turned on "split screen". It's the button just above the preview screen that's a circle that's half light and half dark.

That reminds me... what good is taht split screen feature? I haven't ever used it and I am not sure what good it is for? Any suggestions?

jason

Edward Troxel · August 15th, 2006, 03:28 PM

It can be useful if you need to match colors in various sections, or you want to see how what you are doing affects the colors. It just happens you have yours set to bypass effects. There are many other options available if you click on the dropdown menu arrow. Look it up in the help file.

Zdravko Jancevski · August 16th, 2006, 08:52 AM

How can I render an AVI file to AVI file again but to split video file to 3 separate clips, all that on the fly. For example I edit in Vegas DV AVI file about 4 hours long, adding transitions, effects and music and then I want to render that AVI file to AVI again but I want to split it in 3 separate AVI files ( 1 hour and 20 min each)., then I render these three video clips with my favorite video encoder "Cine Cinema Encoder" to MPEG (to fit on 3 DVD disc for excellent results) but CCE has no option to separate video file during encoding, like TMPGEnc for instance, which is much, much slower option.I have try with marking regions in Vegas and then with scripting render the file, but all three AVI files were the same from begining to the end of the video clip.Some advice.
Regards.

Edward Troxel · August 16th, 2006, 10:27 AM

Create regions on the timeline for each section and then use the rendering script (Tools - scripting - Batch Render)

James Harring · August 16th, 2006, 05:04 PM

Odd one, for sure... an interrrupt (yes XP still uses them) conflict could cause this, but more likely mouse driver is reason. Run WINMSD look under problem components and poke about here, see if you have any clues.
Also Look at event viewer for clues too.

If you have mouse software (third party mouse) pull the driver off and install a newer one. Of course, XP has it's default driver. Actually a little harder to deal with.

Go to Hardware Device manager - Take note of the version. Next, remove the mouse and reboot. See if the issue goes away (XP will reinstall automatically on next reboot). If still an issue, see if it's the same version.

Heres where it gets fun... if you are not skilled on a pc, may want to have a geek help you... if still an issue, note the files on the driver properties (mouseclass.sys and i8042somethingOrOther.sys) Find them and RENAME them (don't delete them...) Reboot, windows should again reinstall the mouse, you have fun trying to use the pc w/o mouse... be prepared for this.

James Harring · August 16th, 2006, 05:09 PM

Anyone have any idea how to do this in Vegas 6.0d? I used to use Scenealyzer and it was fantastic. I am bringing HDV now, so that's no longer an option. Can't do it in the camera either. Scenalyzer spoiled me, as I could do my sampling in post, so if I didn't likethe result, rewind, and do it again at different rate. I like being spoiled.

If vegas can't do this anything else out there that can?

Michael Best · August 16th, 2006, 05:13 PM

I don't think you're a geek? Just kidding, thanks very much for that helpful info!

Glenn Chan · August 16th, 2006, 08:34 PM

Can you:

-update to the latest version of vegas 6 first... one of the newer update improved HDV performance.
-Convert the HDV to an intermediate format like cineform
-apply the velocity envelopes
-turn off/on resampling as necessary (under clip properties). Gives you motion blur or no motion blur.

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August 15th, 2006, 07:54 AM	#515
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	No hardware acceleration cards work with Vegas. It really doesn't need them. As for multiple CPU's, yes it will use them. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

August 15th, 2006, 03:28 PM	#519
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	It can be useful if you need to match colors in various sections, or you want to see how what you are doing affects the colors. It just happens you have yours set to bypass effects. There are many other options available if you click on the dropdown menu arrow. Look it up in the help file. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

August 16th, 2006, 08:52 AM	#520
Zdravko Jancevski Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Macedonia Posts: 36	Render AVI to Separate Clips How can I render an AVI file to AVI file again but to split video file to 3 separate clips, all that on the fly. For example I edit in Vegas DV AVI file about 4 hours long, adding transitions, effects and music and then I want to render that AVI file to AVI again but I want to split it in 3 separate AVI files ( 1 hour and 20 min each)., then I render these three video clips with my favorite video encoder "Cine Cinema Encoder" to MPEG (to fit on 3 DVD disc for excellent results) but CCE has no option to separate video file during encoding, like TMPGEnc for instance, which is much, much slower option.I have try with marking regions in Vegas and then with scripting render the file, but all three AVI files were the same from begining to the end of the video clip.Some advice. Regards.

August 14th, 2006, 09:14 PM	#511
Dale Lundy Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 31	Thanks for everyone's suggestions. As Edward surmised, it turned out I had turned split screen on unbeknownst to me -- probably due to the fact that lately my mouse seems to have a mind of its own. Well, that's one way to learn about split screen. Again, thanks much!

August 15th, 2006, 12:15 AM	#513
Kevin Richard Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lafayette, LA Posts: 270	Damn Edward and his spot on terminology, stealing my thunder :p J/K Glad you got it resolved

August 16th, 2006, 10:27 AM	#521
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Create regions on the timeline for each section and then use the rendering script (Tools - scripting - Batch Render) __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

August 16th, 2006, 05:04 PM	#522
James Harring Major Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 210	Mouse causes video stuttering Odd one, for sure... an interrrupt (yes XP still uses them) conflict could cause this, but more likely mouse driver is reason. Run WINMSD look under problem components and poke about here, see if you have any clues. Also Look at event viewer for clues too. If you have mouse software (third party mouse) pull the driver off and install a newer one. Of course, XP has it's default driver. Actually a little harder to deal with. Go to Hardware Device manager - Take note of the version. Next, remove the mouse and reboot. See if the issue goes away (XP will reinstall automatically on next reboot). If still an issue, see if it's the same version. Heres where it gets fun... if you are not skilled on a pc, may want to have a geek help you... if still an issue, note the files on the driver properties (mouseclass.sys and i8042somethingOrOther.sys) Find them and RENAME them (don't delete them...) Reboot, windows should again reinstall the mouse, you have fun trying to use the pc w/o mouse... be prepared for this.

August 16th, 2006, 05:09 PM	#523
James Harring Major Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 210	Stop Motion (time lapse) using Vegas Anyone have any idea how to do this in Vegas 6.0d? I used to use Scenealyzer and it was fantastic. I am bringing HDV now, so that's no longer an option. Can't do it in the camera either. Scenalyzer spoiled me, as I could do my sampling in post, so if I didn't likethe result, rewind, and do it again at different rate. I like being spoiled. If vegas can't do this anything else out there that can?

August 16th, 2006, 05:13 PM	#524
Michael Best Major Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Oceanside Harbor, CA Posts: 446	I don't think you're a geek? Just kidding, thanks very much for that helpful info!

August 16th, 2006, 08:34 PM	#525
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	Can you: -update to the latest version of vegas 6 first... one of the newer update improved HDV performance. -Convert the HDV to an intermediate format like cineform -apply the velocity envelopes -turn off/on resampling as necessary (under clip properties). Gives you motion blur or no motion blur.