Vegas Video discussions from 2006 (Q3Q4)

Lamar Lamb · August 6th, 2006, 05:31 AM

Thanks Ed,
I looked all over the Sony site and never ran accross that.... I must be blind.

Lamar Lamb · August 6th, 2006, 06:19 AM

Not trying to hi-jack the thread here but I have been working with the trial version of Ultimate 2 as well. Seems like it's worth the money for its time saving attributes. I want to purchase Ult 2 but with Vegas 7 looming over the horizon I have to ask; will Ult 2 be compatible with it and if not at what cost will upgrade options be available?

Paul Kepen · August 6th, 2006, 11:16 AM

Apparently, while working on an HDV project, while using the lower left window (explorer, projectmedia, transitions), I must have enlarged the window, thus shrinking the video preview window in the lower right of the Vegas screen. I use a 2nd monitor for my preview, but this "shrinking" of the vegas preview window, lowered the max resolution of the preview - even on the external monitor to something like 180x260. The fix was to just slightly enlarge the video preview window.

David Delaney · August 6th, 2006, 12:14 PM

When did you use the DVfilm? After you captured?

David Delaney · August 6th, 2006, 12:15 PM

What about HD?

Kevin Richard · August 6th, 2006, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian Briscoe

Kevin

It worked like a charm!!! Really appreciate it.

Thanx

Ian

No problem... my other job is IT, so I've run across all sorts of crazy problems and had to come up with crazy sollutions.

Kevin Richard · August 6th, 2006, 12:45 PM

As Edward pointed out to me on his site, if you are using Visual Studio then after you reference the dll you will have completion as you type out the code.

Curtis Rhoads · August 6th, 2006, 12:58 PM

In this particular instance, Nick is abreviating hard drive as HD. He's saying that it'll take more hard drive space if you convert to 24p first, as you'll be having both versions of the footage on there.

As to your original question, it's always been my understanding that you would want to convert to 24p BEFORE editting, because you run the risk of your edits not falling exactly where they were before when you edit 60i/30i and then convert. Which makes for disaster, or confusion when your watching and your edit gets cut short, and part of the scene is missing.

If I'm wrong, I'm sure that one of the Vegas Lords will soon correct me! :)

David Delaney · August 6th, 2006, 01:41 PM

Ok, thanks - original clip drop to 24 p before editing. I guess that makes sense. I wonder when I render it out, how do I preserve the 24p with Vegas?

Lamar Lamb · August 6th, 2006, 02:44 PM

Great!! I love code completion. They need to give the guy that came up with that idea a big fat bonus check. It makes things move so much quicker for me. I can never remember all the different properties and methods.

Lamar Lamb · August 6th, 2006, 03:10 PM

Yeah. You capture the video then use DV Film Maker to make a deinterlaced copy of each captured avi. You can download a trial version. I did and made comparisons then purchased. It looks really good. You'll be hard pressed to find much detail loss.

I have two PD170's so all I can get is interlaced. I use DV Film Maker when I have to pan and crop the video for different reasons. Interlacing doesn't paly nice when you start panning and cropping. I convert to 24P mov files if there isn't much action or I'm looking for a movie look and drop it into a 24P Vegas project.

If there is a lot of action and I HAVE to pan and crop I will deinterlace the clip requiring a crop to a 60i avi then drop it into a 60i Vegas project and make sure to select "none" for the project deinterlace method option. This allows the non cropped interlaced video to work like it's supposed to and allows me to pan and crop (usually to cover up a framing screw up on my part) what is needed with out affecting the the whole project.

Kevin Richard · August 6th, 2006, 03:30 PM

Simple as that... it seems that the SDK "suite" from Sony is very out dated... I was wondering if anyone had any good resources on this subject? I have some things I'd like to do and a script just wouldn't be as functional.

Dan Gadd · August 6th, 2006, 08:34 PM

Could anyone tell me what topics are included on disc two of this three disc tutorial? I know it is supposed to delve a little deeper into Vegas, but I'd like to know some of the specific areas that it will cover. I've used Vegas everyday for the last four years, so it's not exactly new to me, but I've never had formal training, and I know there is still a lot yet to learn. Could anyone recommend a good advanced tutorial?

Randy Stewart · August 6th, 2006, 09:18 PM

Disk two contains Using pan/crop, building slideshows, adding track motion, using opacity/blending, understanding keyframes, discussion of codecs, rendering for DVDs, print-to-tape, web output, PSP, and more. This is right off of the back of the DVD case. What I really like about this set is it shows you the way the pro's go about doing the tasks. I've picked up a lot of the shortcuts on how to do things that I didn't use before. And I'm sure you know about the other disks that really go into depth on topics like color correction, DVDA, found at this link: http://www.vasst.com/search.aspx?for...&sort=priority. I have them all. Really good stuff. Hope this helps.
Randy

Glenn Chan · August 6th, 2006, 10:35 PM

The SDK suite from Sony seems a little dated, but I believe it's sufficient since Sofo/Sony hasn't changed the Vegas filter architecture much (other than multithreading for filters).

With the filter architecture, you can also do things like GPU processing (like Magic Bullet Editor's 2).

Personally, learning how to write Vegas filter is on my (way too long) to-do list.

2- What are you trying to do?

August 6th, 2006, 05:31 AM	#421
Lamar Lamb Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Baxley, Georgia Posts: 103	Thanks Ed, I looked all over the Sony site and never ran accross that.... I must be blind. __________________ Lamar

August 6th, 2006, 06:19 AM	#422
Lamar Lamb Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Baxley, Georgia Posts: 103	Not trying to hi-jack the thread here but I have been working with the trial version of Ultimate 2 as well. Seems like it's worth the money for its time saving attributes. I want to purchase Ult 2 but with Vegas 7 looming over the horizon I have to ask; will Ult 2 be compatible with it and if not at what cost will upgrade options be available? __________________ Lamar

August 6th, 2006, 02:44 PM	#430
Lamar Lamb Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Baxley, Georgia Posts: 103	Great!! I love code completion. They need to give the guy that came up with that idea a big fat bonus check. It makes things move so much quicker for me. I can never remember all the different properties and methods. __________________ Lamar

August 6th, 2006, 03:10 PM	#431
Lamar Lamb Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Baxley, Georgia Posts: 103	Yeah. You capture the video then use DV Film Maker to make a deinterlaced copy of each captured avi. You can download a trial version. I did and made comparisons then purchased. It looks really good. You'll be hard pressed to find much detail loss. I have two PD170's so all I can get is interlaced. I use DV Film Maker when I have to pan and crop the video for different reasons. Interlacing doesn't paly nice when you start panning and cropping. I convert to 24P mov files if there isn't much action or I'm looking for a movie look and drop it into a 24P Vegas project. If there is a lot of action and I HAVE to pan and crop I will deinterlace the clip requiring a crop to a 60i avi then drop it into a 60i Vegas project and make sure to select "none" for the project deinterlace method option. This allows the non cropped interlaced video to work like it's supposed to and allows me to pan and crop (usually to cover up a framing screw up on my part) what is needed with out affecting the the whole project. __________________ Lamar

August 6th, 2006, 03:30 PM	#432
Kevin Richard Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lafayette, LA Posts: 270	Want to learn how to write plug-ins. Simple as that... it seems that the SDK "suite" from Sony is very out dated... I was wondering if anyone had any good resources on this subject? I have some things I'd like to do and a script just wouldn't be as functional.

August 6th, 2006, 11:16 AM	#423
Paul Kepen Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Minneapolis Minnesota Posts: 347	Apparently, while working on an HDV project, while using the lower left window (explorer, projectmedia, transitions), I must have enlarged the window, thus shrinking the video preview window in the lower right of the Vegas screen. I use a 2nd monitor for my preview, but this "shrinking" of the vegas preview window, lowered the max resolution of the preview - even on the external monitor to something like 180x260. The fix was to just slightly enlarge the video preview window.

August 6th, 2006, 12:14 PM	#424
David Delaney Trustee Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Niagara Ontario Canada Posts: 1,121	When did you use the DVfilm? After you captured?

August 6th, 2006, 12:15 PM	#425
David Delaney Trustee Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Niagara Ontario Canada Posts: 1,121	What about HD?

August 6th, 2006, 12:45 PM	#427
Kevin Richard Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lafayette, LA Posts: 270	As Edward pointed out to me on his site, if you are using Visual Studio then after you reference the dll you will have completion as you type out the code.

August 6th, 2006, 12:58 PM	#428
Curtis Rhoads Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orem, UT Posts: 76	In this particular instance, Nick is abreviating hard drive as HD. He's saying that it'll take more hard drive space if you convert to 24p first, as you'll be having both versions of the footage on there. As to your original question, it's always been my understanding that you would want to convert to 24p BEFORE editting, because you run the risk of your edits not falling exactly where they were before when you edit 60i/30i and then convert. Which makes for disaster, or confusion when your watching and your edit gets cut short, and part of the scene is missing. If I'm wrong, I'm sure that one of the Vegas Lords will soon correct me! :)

August 6th, 2006, 01:41 PM	#429
David Delaney Trustee Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Niagara Ontario Canada Posts: 1,121	Ok, thanks - original clip drop to 24 p before editing. I guess that makes sense. I wonder when I render it out, how do I preserve the 24p with Vegas?

August 6th, 2006, 08:34 PM	#433
Dan Gadd New Boot Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Lake Bluff, IL Posts: 23	Absolute Training for Vegas+DVD, Vol. 1-3 Could anyone tell me what topics are included on disc two of this three disc tutorial? I know it is supposed to delve a little deeper into Vegas, but I'd like to know some of the specific areas that it will cover. I've used Vegas everyday for the last four years, so it's not exactly new to me, but I've never had formal training, and I know there is still a lot yet to learn. Could anyone recommend a good advanced tutorial?

August 6th, 2006, 09:18 PM	#434
Randy Stewart Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hooper, UT Posts: 177	Disk two contains Using pan/crop, building slideshows, adding track motion, using opacity/blending, understanding keyframes, discussion of codecs, rendering for DVDs, print-to-tape, web output, PSP, and more. This is right off of the back of the DVD case. What I really like about this set is it shows you the way the pro's go about doing the tasks. I've picked up a lot of the shortcuts on how to do things that I didn't use before. And I'm sure you know about the other disks that really go into depth on topics like color correction, DVDA, found at this link: http://www.vasst.com/search.aspx?for...&sort=priority. I have them all. Really good stuff. Hope this helps. Randy

August 6th, 2006, 10:35 PM	#435
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	The SDK suite from Sony seems a little dated, but I believe it's sufficient since Sofo/Sony hasn't changed the Vegas filter architecture much (other than multithreading for filters). With the filter architecture, you can also do things like GPU processing (like Magic Bullet Editor's 2). Personally, learning how to write Vegas filter is on my (way too long) to-do list. 2- What are you trying to do?