Vegas Video discussions from 2005 (Q3Q4)

Edward Troxel · November 23rd, 2005, 08:19 AM

There's an extremely good chance that they can simply play the NTSC DVDs. You might want to check with them on that.

As a stop-gap measure, you might try rendering to a full PAL DV-AVI file and then give that to DVDA.

George Odell · November 23rd, 2005, 10:22 AM

Hello to all:

I'm not a Vegas user as such but I need to prepare some material for a client who is. I have two questions:

1) Will Vegas import a targa sequence and work with it on the timeline along with existing HD material?

2) Does Vegas work with all HD resolutions (1920 X 1080I, 1280 x 720P)?

Thanks,
George

Edward Troxel · November 23rd, 2005, 10:29 AM

1) Yes. Just to a file - import, pick the first file, and check the box indicating this is an image sequence.

2) Yes. Both of those are supported.

Douglas Spotted Eagle · November 23rd, 2005, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George Odell

Hello to all:

I'm not a Vegas user as such but I need to prepare some material for a client who is. I have two questions:

1) Will Vegas import a targa sequence and work with it on the timeline along with existing HD material?

2) Does Vegas work with all HD resolutions (1920 X 1080I, 1280 x 720P)?

Thanks,
George

One thing you may want to be aware of George, in most instances TGA sequences are square pixel, and therefore will probably need to be matched ot aspect ratio using the Pan/Crop tool. If you're working with most HD formats in the 1080 flavor, like HDV they're not square like 1920 is, they have an aspect of 1.333, so set your targa sequences to 1440 x 1080 rather than 1920 x 1080.

Matthew Lewis · November 23rd, 2005, 10:51 AM

Thank you Edward. I appreciate the input.
I'm nervous to be sending out NTSC versions for the cost of shipping. This is a fundraiser for a non-profit, so every dollar i can keep benefits them more. However, i'm getting to the frustration point here where i think i just might send out some NTSC copies and hope for the best. Our "audience" can barely tell me the make of their DVD player, let alone what their setup is capable of playing. ;)
I didn't think of the straight DV-AVI. I tried rendering the video and audio together as a single mpeg with 2 tracks (not seperate streams for DVDA as i've always done for best quality) and i think the audio is STILL off. Of course, i'm checking this all on a computer since i have no PAL setup, but they do seem to be off.
Maybe i'll try the DV-AVI re-render, and if that doesn't work, i'll just ship out some NTSC versions and cross my fingers. If i have to re-ship, so be it.
Thank you again.
kind regards,
matt lewis

George Odell · November 23rd, 2005, 11:03 AM

Thanks to both of you for for the replies...

Douglas: Does that go for 720P as well?

George

Douglas Spotted Eagle · November 23rd, 2005, 11:14 AM

720p is a square pixel format. 1920 x 1080 is a square pixel format. Anything in the MPEG 1080 realm is non-square, including the broadcast streams for 1080.

George Odell · November 23rd, 2005, 11:17 AM

Good information.

Thanks again, Douglas!

Mike Black · November 23rd, 2005, 05:18 PM

I was reading "what's new in Vegas 6" and saw that you can drop .veg files right into a new track.
Looks like I will have to migrate to Vegas 6
Mike

Tony Rockliff · November 23rd, 2005, 05:39 PM

My must-have additions to Vegas are DVDLab Pro for authoring and Procoder for encoding (and debugmode's wonderful frameserver for sending the Vegas output to Procoder). I also sometimes do stuff in Photoshop and import the .psd's into DVDLab Pro.

John Hartney · November 23rd, 2005, 07:55 PM

My Ikegami DV7w won't rec to tape through firewire, either. I use a Sony DSR20 to loop into the NLE. The Sony DSR11 is a low cost deck that is very well made.

John Hudson · November 23rd, 2005, 08:22 PM

Hi everyone; John from dvxuser.com

I wanted to make a simple matte using Vegas and Photoshop. My goal being to use these images:

(Scroll down for images and final result please)

http://www.dvxuser.com/V3/showthread.php?t=39008&page=2

You can see my first goal was to simply drop the Photoshop layer 'On top of' the Live Track and I assumed it would cover it up but it didnt work out that way. In fact, the final comp:

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/3...nedude24wc.jpg

Has elements of the original live plate that I assumed would be covered up by the Photoshop element. I have tried every combination I can think of using the tracks and composite options and am lost.

So I leave dvxuser and seek the advice of the Vegas masters at dvinfo.

Thanks

Edward Troxel · November 23rd, 2005, 08:57 PM

I'm not exactly following everything you're doing. However, coming out of photoshop, why not make the area you wish to show through be transparent? PSD and PNG can both handle transparency fine.

Edward Troxel · November 23rd, 2005, 09:03 PM

Yes. That's what I was talking about. Just drop the veg onto a new timeline and everything's brought over. Probably should have mentioned it's only available in Vegas 6.

John Hudson · November 23rd, 2005, 09:14 PM

Thank you for responding Edward

In simplest terms and for illustration only:

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/662/foredward5ei.jpg

That is what I would like to do. I have been using either TIFF or JPEG but will try PNG or PSD right now

November 23rd, 2005, 08:19 AM	#1201
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	There's an extremely good chance that they can simply play the NTSC DVDs. You might want to check with them on that. As a stop-gap measure, you might try rendering to a full PAL DV-AVI file and then give that to DVDA. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

November 23rd, 2005, 10:22 AM	#1202
George Odell Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 270	Will Vegas import a targa sequence? Hello to all: I'm not a Vegas user as such but I need to prepare some material for a client who is. I have two questions: 1) Will Vegas import a targa sequence and work with it on the timeline along with existing HD material? 2) Does Vegas work with all HD resolutions (1920 X 1080I, 1280 x 720P)? Thanks, George __________________ "the difference between an amateur photographer and a professional is the amateur shows you all his pictures"

November 23rd, 2005, 10:29 AM	#1203
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	1) Yes. Just to a file - import, pick the first file, and check the box indicating this is an image sequence. 2) Yes. Both of those are supported. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

November 23rd, 2005, 11:03 AM	#1206
George Odell Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 270	Thanks to both of you for for the replies... Douglas: Does that go for 720P as well? George __________________ "the difference between an amateur photographer and a professional is the amateur shows you all his pictures"

November 23rd, 2005, 11:14 AM	#1207
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	720p is a square pixel format. 1920 x 1080 is a square pixel format. Anything in the MPEG 1080 realm is non-square, including the broadcast streams for 1080. __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

November 23rd, 2005, 10:51 AM	#1205
Matthew Lewis New Boot Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 19	Thank you Edward. I appreciate the input. I'm nervous to be sending out NTSC versions for the cost of shipping. This is a fundraiser for a non-profit, so every dollar i can keep benefits them more. However, i'm getting to the frustration point here where i think i just might send out some NTSC copies and hope for the best. Our "audience" can barely tell me the make of their DVD player, let alone what their setup is capable of playing. ;) I didn't think of the straight DV-AVI. I tried rendering the video and audio together as a single mpeg with 2 tracks (not seperate streams for DVDA as i've always done for best quality) and i think the audio is STILL off. Of course, i'm checking this all on a computer since i have no PAL setup, but they do seem to be off. Maybe i'll try the DV-AVI re-render, and if that doesn't work, i'll just ship out some NTSC versions and cross my fingers. If i have to re-ship, so be it. Thank you again. kind regards, matt lewis

November 23rd, 2005, 11:17 AM	#1208
George Odell Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 270	Good information. Thanks again, Douglas! __________________ "the difference between an amateur photographer and a professional is the amateur shows you all his pictures"

November 23rd, 2005, 05:18 PM	#1209
Mike Black Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Perez Zeledon, Costa Rica Posts: 37	Vegas 6 nesting I was reading "what's new in Vegas 6" and saw that you can drop .veg files right into a new track. Looks like I will have to migrate to Vegas 6 Mike

November 23rd, 2005, 05:39 PM	#1210
Tony Rockliff Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dunedin, Florida Posts: 70	My must-have additions to Vegas are DVDLab Pro for authoring and Procoder for encoding (and debugmode's wonderful frameserver for sending the Vegas output to Procoder). I also sometimes do stuff in Photoshop and import the .psd's into DVDLab Pro.

November 23rd, 2005, 07:55 PM	#1211
John Hartney Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Elgin, Illinois Posts: 206	My Ikegami DV7w won't rec to tape through firewire, either. I use a Sony DSR20 to loop into the NLE. The Sony DSR11 is a low cost deck that is very well made. __________________ John Hartney Elgin, Illinois USA 847.742.9321

November 23rd, 2005, 08:22 PM	#1212
John Hudson Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: 32° 44' N 117° 10' W Posts: 820	Vegas Gurus ! Hi everyone; John from dvxuser.com I wanted to make a simple matte using Vegas and Photoshop. My goal being to use these images: (Scroll down for images and final result please) http://www.dvxuser.com/V3/showthread.php?t=39008&page=2 You can see my first goal was to simply drop the Photoshop layer 'On top of' the Live Track and I assumed it would cover it up but it didnt work out that way. In fact, the final comp: http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/3...nedude24wc.jpg Has elements of the original live plate that I assumed would be covered up by the Photoshop element. I have tried every combination I can think of using the tracks and composite options and am lost. So I leave dvxuser and seek the advice of the Vegas masters at dvinfo. Thanks

November 23rd, 2005, 08:57 PM	#1213
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	I'm not exactly following everything you're doing. However, coming out of photoshop, why not make the area you wish to show through be transparent? PSD and PNG can both handle transparency fine. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

November 23rd, 2005, 09:03 PM	#1214
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Yes. That's what I was talking about. Just drop the veg onto a new timeline and everything's brought over. Probably should have mentioned it's only available in Vegas 6. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

November 23rd, 2005, 09:14 PM	#1215
John Hudson Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: 32° 44' N 117° 10' W Posts: 820	Thank you for responding Edward In simplest terms and for illustration only: http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/662/foredward5ei.jpg That is what I would like to do. I have been using either TIFF or JPEG but will try PNG or PSD right now