Vegas Video discussions from 2005 (Q3Q4)

Vince Debart · November 14th, 2005, 04:57 PM

Thanks Edward

Vince

I may just go to Vegas 6 DVDA3...the audio scrub sounds cool...and I do need duel Layer.. and maybe some day HDV

Thanks

John Lorince · November 14th, 2005, 10:32 PM

Hey Guys and Gals,
I do alot of shooting with a JVC HD10u. It is not my dream camera by no means, but it shoots nice images. I capture the footage into my PC with Connect HD. Then that program automatically converts that footage to manageable AVI's to edit in vegas 6. I use this only because I have found that Vegas 6's capture ingredient does not suite my PC or it is just not ready. I have a P4 3.2 and 1 gig of ram. I use two drives yada yada for capturing and editing. After I load the files into Vegas 6 should I use the hdv 1280 X 720 in 30p if I am just going to burn this to dvd? Doesn't dvd compress everything to MPeg2 anyway? If was going to maintain the file and send it to a broadcast station, what tape would I have to roll that out to?

Bill Grant · November 15th, 2005, 08:56 AM

ok,
so I have a second camera shot from a panasonic GS-120 that has a bright sky in the background. The wedding party is almost completely in sillouette. Is there any filter or effect I can apply to this to clarify the wedding party. I have to use this feed for the entrance and exit of the party, so I would love to have it "visible" youknow? Thanks in advance.

Bill

Brian Kennedy · November 15th, 2005, 10:47 AM

Bill - it sounds like the shot is already done, and the image is severely underexposed. If so, using curves to try to open up the shadows may help, but I suspect there is not much detail in those shadows and a lot of noise.

I'd try using curves first, maybe with some noise reduction with the shadow noise you're likely to see, but you might be better off accepting it as is and seeing if you can use it in some artsy way, as if you did it on purpose.

Others may be able to offer more help. I come from a still photography background, and maybe there are some video tricks I'm not aware of.

Edward Troxel · November 15th, 2005, 11:55 AM

Perhaps if you could post a snapshot for people to play with...

Shawn Redford · November 15th, 2005, 02:36 PM

For now I'm planning on using GearShift 1.5 and converting the m2t files on my 3Mhz P4. However, I really wish that the built-in Vegas 6c video capture tool had the scene detection capabilities for HDV. Bringing in a huge HDV file is not only unappealing, but hard to use from an editing perspective (others seem to agree: http://www.sonymediasoftware.com/for...ssageID=420732) Does anyone know if/when Sony will add Scene Detection for the Vegas HDV video capture tool? I'm not interested in purchasing Cineform just for this capability either - it's equal to the Vegas 6 upgrade cost.

The other thing I really miss is the 'dropped frames' counter that also was in the DV capture tool. With just a glance, I could tell if the tape fully loaded. As far as I can tell, the only way to know this now is in the midst of editing.

Fred Foronda · November 15th, 2005, 02:49 PM

I was wondering that too. I don't understand why Sony did that. It's like I'll buy a brandnew car with all the bells and whisltes but doesn't come with tires.

Bill Porter · November 15th, 2005, 04:40 PM

I believe this belongs in the other Vegas forum, the "What Happens In Vegas... (HDV)"

http://dvinfo.net/conf/forumdisplay.php?f=102

John Lorince · November 15th, 2005, 04:55 PM

Can the kennelmaster redirect me perhaps?

Mike Black · November 15th, 2005, 06:01 PM

I had the same problem and found that when it is rendered or prerendered it looks better.
Mike

Edward Troxel · November 15th, 2005, 06:23 PM

moved to HDV.

Douglas Spotted Eagle · November 15th, 2005, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Lorince

Hey Guys and Gals,
I do alot of shooting with a JVC HD10u. It is not my dream camera by no means, but it shoots nice images. I capture the footage into my PC with Connect HD. Then that program automatically converts that footage to manageable AVI's to edit in vegas 6. I use this only because I have found that Vegas 6's capture ingredient does not suite my PC or it is just not ready. I have a P4 3.2 and 1 gig of ram. I use two drives yada yada for capturing and editing. After I load the files into Vegas 6 should I use the hdv 1280 X 720 in 30p if I am just going to burn this to dvd? Doesn't dvd compress everything to MPeg2 anyway? If was going to maintain the file and send it to a broadcast station, what tape would I have to roll that out to?

If you're delivering to broadcast for HD delivery, you'd have to deliver on HDCAM or D5HD, depending on what they ask for. Some will also accept delivery on a hard drive if they have a media server.
Connect HD is likely the best way for you to work, and I'd be editing the CineForm files. Use the 1280 x 720 30p template, you'll be happy with it.

Kevin Richard · November 16th, 2005, 12:57 AM

I was trying to edit (in vegas 6) a wedding we shot and my partner captured via his mac in FCP but the audio is out of sync in vegas. They play fine when viewed in the quicktime player. I even thought maybe it was just a preview problem but even after I render it out to mpeg it is out of sync the same.

Anyone have any clue or suggestions as to what to do to fix this? Granted I'm getting pretty proficient in FCP but I would rather be able to edit at my house on my machine vs at his place on his G4.

Douglas Spotted Eagle · November 16th, 2005, 07:12 AM

What format did they capture to in FCP? If it's DV in a Quicktime, then you're only out of sync due to processor speed in Vegas. It's pretty tough to make DV go out of sync. You might try:
1. recapture using same names, so you can use his EDL from FCP,
2. rename his .mov files as .avi

Dale Nicholson · November 16th, 2005, 11:50 AM

I'm sure I'm doing something very simple wrong, but here it goes:

When I "Selectively Pre-Render Video" (say a 30 second video clip), it only creates 10 second segments. Is that normal? How do I get it to do the Whole thing?

--Dale, using Vegas 6

November 14th, 2005, 10:32 PM	#1097
John Lorince Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Northeast Ohio Posts: 75	HDV with Connect HD and Vegas 6c Hey Guys and Gals, I do alot of shooting with a JVC HD10u. It is not my dream camera by no means, but it shoots nice images. I capture the footage into my PC with Connect HD. Then that program automatically converts that footage to manageable AVI's to edit in vegas 6. I use this only because I have found that Vegas 6's capture ingredient does not suite my PC or it is just not ready. I have a P4 3.2 and 1 gig of ram. I use two drives yada yada for capturing and editing. After I load the files into Vegas 6 should I use the hdv 1280 X 720 in 30p if I am just going to burn this to dvd? Doesn't dvd compress everything to MPeg2 anyway? If was going to maintain the file and send it to a broadcast station, what tape would I have to roll that out to? __________________ John Lorince Http://capturemotion.tv

November 15th, 2005, 08:56 AM	#1098
Bill Grant Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Columbia,SC Posts: 806	backlit altar ok, so I have a second camera shot from a panasonic GS-120 that has a bright sky in the background. The wedding party is almost completely in sillouette. Is there any filter or effect I can apply to this to clarify the wedding party. I have to use this feed for the entrance and exit of the party, so I would love to have it "visible" youknow? Thanks in advance. Bill

November 15th, 2005, 10:47 AM	#1099
Brian Kennedy Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Washington DC Posts: 126	Bill - it sounds like the shot is already done, and the image is severely underexposed. If so, using curves to try to open up the shadows may help, but I suspect there is not much detail in those shadows and a lot of noise. I'd try using curves first, maybe with some noise reduction with the shadow noise you're likely to see, but you might be better off accepting it as is and seeing if you can use it in some artsy way, as if you did it on purpose. Others may be able to offer more help. I come from a still photography background, and maybe there are some video tricks I'm not aware of. __________________ Brian Kennedy

November 15th, 2005, 11:55 AM	#1100
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Perhaps if you could post a snapshot for people to play with... __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

November 15th, 2005, 02:36 PM	#1101
Shawn Redford Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 158	Will Sony improve the HDV Capture Tool? For now I'm planning on using GearShift 1.5 and converting the m2t files on my 3Mhz P4. However, I really wish that the built-in Vegas 6c video capture tool had the scene detection capabilities for HDV. Bringing in a huge HDV file is not only unappealing, but hard to use from an editing perspective (others seem to agree: http://www.sonymediasoftware.com/for...ssageID=420732) Does anyone know if/when Sony will add Scene Detection for the Vegas HDV video capture tool? I'm not interested in purchasing Cineform just for this capability either - it's equal to the Vegas 6 upgrade cost. The other thing I really miss is the 'dropped frames' counter that also was in the DV capture tool. With just a glance, I could tell if the tape fully loaded. As far as I can tell, the only way to know this now is in the midst of editing.

November 14th, 2005, 04:57 PM	#1096
Vince Debart Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Denver Posts: 254	Thanks Edward Vince I may just go to Vegas 6 DVDA3...the audio scrub sounds cool...and I do need duel Layer.. and maybe some day HDV Thanks

November 15th, 2005, 02:49 PM	#1102
Fred Foronda Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Hawaii Posts: 337	I was wondering that too. I don't understand why Sony did that. It's like I'll buy a brandnew car with all the bells and whisltes but doesn't come with tires.

November 15th, 2005, 04:40 PM	#1103
Bill Porter Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ventura, California, USA Posts: 751	I believe this belongs in the other Vegas forum, the "What Happens In Vegas... (HDV)" http://dvinfo.net/conf/forumdisplay.php?f=102

November 15th, 2005, 04:55 PM	#1104
John Lorince Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Northeast Ohio Posts: 75	ooops, sorry can someone put this topic in the HDV thread~ Can the kennelmaster redirect me perhaps? __________________ John Lorince Http://capturemotion.tv

November 15th, 2005, 06:01 PM	#1105
Mike Black Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Perez Zeledon, Costa Rica Posts: 37	Looks better rendered I had the same problem and found that when it is rendered or prerendered it looks better. Mike

November 15th, 2005, 06:23 PM	#1106
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	moved to HDV. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

November 16th, 2005, 12:57 AM	#1108
Kevin Richard Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lafayette, LA Posts: 270	QuickTime issues, captured in FCP I was trying to edit (in vegas 6) a wedding we shot and my partner captured via his mac in FCP but the audio is out of sync in vegas. They play fine when viewed in the quicktime player. I even thought maybe it was just a preview problem but even after I render it out to mpeg it is out of sync the same. Anyone have any clue or suggestions as to what to do to fix this? Granted I'm getting pretty proficient in FCP but I would rather be able to edit at my house on my machine vs at his place on his G4.

November 16th, 2005, 07:12 AM	#1109
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	What format did they capture to in FCP? If it's DV in a Quicktime, then you're only out of sync due to processor speed in Vegas. It's pretty tough to make DV go out of sync. You might try: 1. recapture using same names, so you can use his EDL from FCP, 2. rename his .mov files as .avi __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

November 16th, 2005, 11:50 AM	#1110
Dale Nicholson Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 133	Selectively Pre-Render Video question I'm sure I'm doing something very simple wrong, but here it goes: When I "Selectively Pre-Render Video" (say a 30 second video clip), it only creates 10 second segments. Is that normal? How do I get it to do the Whole thing? --Dale, using Vegas 6