Vegas Video discussions from 2005 (Q3Q4)

Peter Moore · August 31st, 2005, 05:15 PM

Is it possible to use with Vegas? Can't get it working.

Darryl Grob · September 1st, 2005, 06:47 PM

Don't think so. I saw an article at the VASST site which discussed frameserving the Vegas timeline into Nero for H264 rendering. Might do a search there and the Sony Forum (which is where I recall picking up the reference). Darryl

Bill Porter · September 2nd, 2005, 02:18 AM

Can anybody recommend a method or a program to split full 60-minute captures (which were captured as .AVI's) into multiple (or at least two) smaller files without recompressing or generational loss?

Thanks

Mike Kujbida · September 2nd, 2005, 05:03 AM

As long as they were DV-AVIs, Vegas should be able to do it for you.
Put it on the time line and drop markers at the appropriate points. Double-click in an empty are to highlight a section and select "render loop region only".

VirtualDub will also do this for you. Load the file in, delete the areas you don't want, select "video - direct stream copy" and then "file - save as avi".

Mike

Edward Troxel · September 2nd, 2005, 07:41 AM

If you render a DV-AVI file in Vegas to another DV-AVI file and you have made NO changes, it will be a straight file copy so there will be NO generational loss.

Christopher Lefchik · September 2nd, 2005, 12:09 PM

Now that's strange. I was able to export QT H.264 video from Premiere Pro without a problem after installing the QuickTime 7 preview (the free player, not the Pro version) on my computer. I wonder why it doesn't work in Vegas?

Peter Moore · September 2nd, 2005, 12:14 PM

Very interesting, and good to know. At least I can take my HD projects stored in cineform format and make H.264 from Adobe Premier without having to buy some $500 encoder.

Vegas is very picky about codecs. It's really getting to be problematic for me.

Bill Porter · September 2nd, 2005, 04:36 PM

Awesome, you guys are a wealth of knowledge. Thank you.

Giroud Francois · September 2nd, 2005, 04:53 PM

scenalyzer will do it too

Ron Evans · September 2nd, 2005, 06:59 PM

I have just started to use Vegas 6.0 ( also have Premiere Pro 1.5.1 and Edius Pro3) I have Aspect HD Demo 3.3 loaded at the moment too. Main reason for Vegas is that it appears to have the best user interface for cropping SD video from HDV. Since this process will result in rendering the whole video I decided to set up network rendering with one of my other PC's. Main PC is AMD 64 X2 4200+ second PC is an AMD XP2500. I have set up both as far as I can tell!!! While watching the status on the second PC, it will render for a few seconds and then fails reporting no project file in the log ( the file is there however when I checked on the host PC). Both PC's show "ready" in status before starting rendering. Network is a Gigabit ethernet. What am I missing?

Ron Evans

Fred Foronda · September 3rd, 2005, 03:33 PM

I'll be getting Vegas 6 in about a few days from now. I currently have Vegas 4 with some work in progress. Would I be able to work with my projects in the new Vegas 6? Can 6 be insalled without uninstalling 4?

Thanks

Guy Bruner · September 3rd, 2005, 03:51 PM

Sure. Vegas 6 installs in its own folder and doesn't overwrite Vegas 4. I have Vegas 4, 5 and 6 installed.

Newdjeen Klime · September 3rd, 2005, 03:52 PM

yes, you can work in V6 with prevorious Vegas project

*if you save project in V6 - from this moment older versions of the program not anderstand this *.veg (V6 anderstand, V4/5 not)

Dan Euritt · September 3rd, 2005, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christopher Lefchik

Now that's strange. I was able to export QT H.264 video from Premiere Pro without a problem after installing the QuickTime 7 preview (the free player, not the Pro version)

are you sure that it's really the qt h.264 codec? i'm trying to figure out how that could have happened... did you have nero installed already? maybe it's the nero h.264 codec??

Rob Lohman · September 4th, 2005, 06:08 AM

That's not easily possible in Vegas. However you can give it a go through the
following method (make sure you try this on a COPY of the file!!!!!).

Go to www.doom9.org
Go to downloads, AVI editing tools, click on show all AVI editing tools
Download Avifrate1.10.

Extract the program from the zip, launch it and open your (copy) AVI file. It
should display the current framerate (25.0). Change it to 24.0 and save the
file.

Now start Vegas and select the NTSC DV 24p template. Change the 23.976
fps (IVTC film) to 24.000 fps (film). Now load the file into Vegas.

You will see once you load the file that the audio part is not as long as the
video part. Un-group the audio track and ctrl + drag it to the end of the video
(in Vegas' default settings it should snap to match exactly). The audio should
now be back in sync with the video.

I didn't have time to confirm this flow, but if memory serves me correctly it
should work this way.

Good luck!

August 31st, 2005, 05:15 PM	#526
Peter Moore Trustee Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Arlington VA Posts: 1,034	QuickTime H.264? Is it possible to use with Vegas? Can't get it working.

September 2nd, 2005, 02:18 AM	#528
Bill Porter Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ventura, California, USA Posts: 751	AVI splitter? Can anybody recommend a method or a program to split full 60-minute captures (which were captured as .AVI's) into multiple (or at least two) smaller files without recompressing or generational loss? Thanks

September 2nd, 2005, 07:41 AM	#530
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	If you render a DV-AVI file in Vegas to another DV-AVI file and you have made NO changes, it will be a straight file copy so there will be NO generational loss. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

September 2nd, 2005, 06:59 PM	#535
Ron Evans Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 4,220	Vegas 6.0b Network Rendering I have just started to use Vegas 6.0 ( also have Premiere Pro 1.5.1 and Edius Pro3) I have Aspect HD Demo 3.3 loaded at the moment too. Main reason for Vegas is that it appears to have the best user interface for cropping SD video from HDV. Since this process will result in rendering the whole video I decided to set up network rendering with one of my other PC's. Main PC is AMD 64 X2 4200+ second PC is an AMD XP2500. I have set up both as far as I can tell!!! While watching the status on the second PC, it will render for a few seconds and then fails reporting no project file in the log ( the file is there however when I checked on the host PC). Both PC's show "ready" in status before starting rendering. Network is a Gigabit ethernet. What am I missing? Ron Evans

September 3rd, 2005, 03:33 PM	#536
Fred Foronda Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Hawaii Posts: 337	updating vegas I'll be getting Vegas 6 in about a few days from now. I currently have Vegas 4 with some work in progress. Would I be able to work with my projects in the new Vegas 6? Can 6 be insalled without uninstalling 4? Thanks

September 1st, 2005, 06:47 PM	#527
Darryl Grob New Boot Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 11	Don't think so. I saw an article at the VASST site which discussed frameserving the Vegas timeline into Nero for H264 rendering. Might do a search there and the Sony Forum (which is where I recall picking up the reference). Darryl

September 2nd, 2005, 05:03 AM	#529
Mike Kujbida Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Windsor, ON Canada Posts: 2,770	As long as they were DV-AVIs, Vegas should be able to do it for you. Put it on the time line and drop markers at the appropriate points. Double-click in an empty are to highlight a section and select "render loop region only". VirtualDub will also do this for you. Load the file in, delete the areas you don't want, select "video - direct stream copy" and then "file - save as avi". Mike

September 2nd, 2005, 12:09 PM	#531
Christopher Lefchik Trustee Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: US Posts: 1,152	Now that's strange. I was able to export QT H.264 video from Premiere Pro without a problem after installing the QuickTime 7 preview (the free player, not the Pro version) on my computer. I wonder why it doesn't work in Vegas?

September 2nd, 2005, 12:14 PM	#532
Peter Moore Trustee Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Arlington VA Posts: 1,034	Very interesting, and good to know. At least I can take my HD projects stored in cineform format and make H.264 from Adobe Premier without having to buy some $500 encoder. Vegas is very picky about codecs. It's really getting to be problematic for me.

September 2nd, 2005, 04:36 PM	#533
Bill Porter Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ventura, California, USA Posts: 751	Awesome, you guys are a wealth of knowledge. Thank you.

September 2nd, 2005, 04:53 PM	#534
Giroud Francois Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: switzerland Posts: 2,133	scenalyzer will do it too

September 3rd, 2005, 03:51 PM	#537
Guy Bruner Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ashford, AL Posts: 937	Sure. Vegas 6 installs in its own folder and doesn't overwrite Vegas 4. I have Vegas 4, 5 and 6 installed.

September 3rd, 2005, 03:52 PM	#538
Newdjeen Klime Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Location: World Wide Web Posts: 26	yes, you can work in V6 with prevorious Vegas project if you save project in V6 - from this moment older versions of the program not anderstand this .veg (V6 anderstand, V4/5 not) __________________ Âû õî÷èòå ôèëüìîâ, èõ åñòü ó ìåíÿ

September 4th, 2005, 06:08 AM	#540
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	That's not easily possible in Vegas. However you can give it a go through the following method (make sure you try this on a COPY of the file!!!!!). Go to www.doom9.org Go to downloads, AVI editing tools, click on show all AVI editing tools Download Avifrate1.10. Extract the program from the zip, launch it and open your (copy) AVI file. It should display the current framerate (25.0). Change it to 24.0 and save the file. Now start Vegas and select the NTSC DV 24p template. Change the 23.976 fps (IVTC film) to 24.000 fps (film). Now load the file into Vegas. You will see once you load the file that the audio part is not as long as the video part. Un-group the audio track and ctrl + drag it to the end of the video (in Vegas' default settings it should snap to match exactly). The audio should now be back in sync with the video. I didn't have time to confirm this flow, but if memory serves me correctly it should work this way. Good luck! __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors