Vegas Video discussions from 2005 (Q3Q4)

Bob Costa · August 27th, 2005, 04:20 PM

Thanks Brian, that's what I was looking for. Vegas does have "Multi-Band Dynamics" and I found the de-esser as an option. Works great.

Thanks to Mike and DJ too, I learned more. Since I got these BX8s and can hear better, I have all kinds of things to learn about audio.

Darryl Grob · August 27th, 2005, 08:46 PM

I've got this issue working with Sony Support. AMD 64 4800 dual core, etc, with the NEC 3250. There are no driver updates I could find. Neither V6, DVDA3, nor DVDA2 see the drive.

Meantime, I rip my CDs with WMP and burn my DVDs with Nero Recode (after authoring and "preparing" in DVDA3).

You'll find the odd post here and there about this drive and Vegas, no solutions I've found other than the workarounds.

Darryl

Giuseppe Palumbo · August 28th, 2005, 06:31 PM

Is it worth me getting 6? ive learned 4 pretty good and is it alot different and worth upgrading?

Edward Troxel · August 28th, 2005, 07:14 PM

Read my April 2004 newsletter to see the difference between Vegas 4 and Vegas 5. Then read the April 2005 newsletter to see the difference between Vegas 5 and Vegas 6. That should give you the major differences from 4 to 6.

Aaron Koolen · August 28th, 2005, 08:45 PM

As Edward said, read his newsletters. But if you're lazy and just want someone to tell you what to do - then yes, upgrade :). Not for 6, cause I think 6 is really a ripoff, but for 5.

Aaron

DJ Kinney · August 29th, 2005, 02:41 AM

Ah, but 6 has that totally new way of handling 24p pulldown conversion which looks really good, AND is capable of editing HD. So not so much of a ripoff if those things are in your future.......

Laurence Kingston · August 29th, 2005, 03:28 PM

Yes, the feature that makes Vegas 6 a worthwhile upgrade for me at least is the frame rate conversion. Vegas 5 and earlier treat interlaced footage like every other non-linear editor: like 30 interlaced frames. Vegas 6 treats interlaced footage almost like 60 progressive frames. This makes a huge difference on frame rate conversions. 24p looks as clear as the 60i starting footage (which of course is still not as clear as native 24p). NTSC/PAL conversions look MUCH better now as well. PAL to NTSC is so good, I wish I had a had a PAL camera. I'd shoot PAL all the time and convert it to NTSC, and use the extra lines of resolution for rendering widescreen versions and deshaking.

Matt McConnell · August 29th, 2005, 03:52 PM

Well that is a real bummer. Please keep me up to date with what Sony has to say about this issue. (I have been logged on with administrator rights when seeing this issue)

Unfortunately I do not have Nero or any other burning software, so I can not burn a DVD. I know of some free CD ripping tools, are there any free DVD burning tools anyone could recommend?

Darryl Grob · August 29th, 2005, 07:27 PM

http://ww2.nero.com/enu/index.html

Hard to beat, not free, but quite an ensamble. I only download and use the first 2 packages of the 4 bundles. Nero Recode will take your authored DVD Video_TS and drag the Audio_TS with it, then burn quite nicely. Let me see, if memory serves, click, click, click, click, burn. Darryl

Kevin Munn · August 29th, 2005, 08:10 PM

I need to compress an mpeg 2 file to fit onto 1 dvd. Can Vegas do this or do I need a separate software?

Steve Madsen · August 29th, 2005, 09:00 PM

Hello hello,

I've shot some basketball footage (2 cameras) and am trying to get a particurlar PIP effect. Both shots started full back (wide? haven't got the jargon down yet), while a player was at the free throw line. One camera zoomed in to catch half the amount of information. His reaction while the ball was in flight was very interesting (no, no, no...yes!), so I'd like to put that in the top right hand corner.

My problem is that the zoomed shot doesn't keep him in the centre of frame (and he moves some) - so I can keyframe to follow him, but this just gives me a track with a small picture that moves over various areas of the second track. Is there any way I can keep this in the top right of the second track?

I've been playing with this for awhile, but no luck - can anyone offer a suggestion?

Thanks,

Steve

Edward Troxel · August 29th, 2005, 09:17 PM

Use Pan/Crop to zoom and pan and follow the player.

Use Track Motion to actually create the PIP.

Edward Troxel · August 29th, 2005, 09:20 PM

Vegas can do it but you'll be much better off starting with the original (i.e. non-mpeg2) footage. However, it is quite possible for Vegas and/or DVD Architect to recompress an MPEG2 into a smaller MPEG2 file.

Kevin Munn · August 29th, 2005, 09:30 PM

How would I go about doing that? I tried setting the quality to about half but it keeps rendering to the same file size.

Steve Madsen · August 30th, 2005, 02:54 AM

Thanks Edward. It appears I'll have reposition many times in track motion, but it works perfectly.

August 27th, 2005, 04:20 PM	#496
Bob Costa Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Venice, FL Posts: 850	Thanks Brian, that's what I was looking for. Vegas does have "Multi-Band Dynamics" and I found the de-esser as an option. Works great. Thanks to Mike and DJ too, I learned more. Since I got these BX8s and can hear better, I have all kinds of things to learn about audio. __________________ You are either growing or dying.

August 27th, 2005, 08:46 PM	#497
Darryl Grob New Boot Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 11	Same problem. I've got this issue working with Sony Support. AMD 64 4800 dual core, etc, with the NEC 3250. There are no driver updates I could find. Neither V6, DVDA3, nor DVDA2 see the drive. Meantime, I rip my CDs with WMP and burn my DVDs with Nero Recode (after authoring and "preparing" in DVDA3). You'll find the odd post here and there about this drive and Vegas, no solutions I've found other than the workarounds. Darryl

August 28th, 2005, 06:31 PM	#498
Giuseppe Palumbo Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 199 Images: 7	Big difference from 4 to 6? Is it worth me getting 6? ive learned 4 pretty good and is it alot different and worth upgrading? __________________ AIM - N film B www.nbfilms.us

August 28th, 2005, 07:14 PM	#499
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Read my April 2004 newsletter to see the difference between Vegas 4 and Vegas 5. Then read the April 2005 newsletter to see the difference between Vegas 5 and Vegas 6. That should give you the major differences from 4 to 6. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

August 28th, 2005, 08:45 PM	#500
Aaron Koolen Trustee Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 1,727	As Edward said, read his newsletters. But if you're lazy and just want someone to tell you what to do - then yes, upgrade :). Not for 6, cause I think 6 is really a ripoff, but for 5. Aaron __________________ My Website Meat Free Media

August 29th, 2005, 02:41 AM	#501
DJ Kinney Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 277	Ah, but 6 has that totally new way of handling 24p pulldown conversion which looks really good, AND is capable of editing HD. So not so much of a ripoff if those things are in your future.......

August 29th, 2005, 03:28 PM	#502
Laurence Kingston Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Clermont, FL. Posts: 941	Yes, the feature that makes Vegas 6 a worthwhile upgrade for me at least is the frame rate conversion. Vegas 5 and earlier treat interlaced footage like every other non-linear editor: like 30 interlaced frames. Vegas 6 treats interlaced footage almost like 60 progressive frames. This makes a huge difference on frame rate conversions. 24p looks as clear as the 60i starting footage (which of course is still not as clear as native 24p). NTSC/PAL conversions look MUCH better now as well. PAL to NTSC is so good, I wish I had a had a PAL camera. I'd shoot PAL all the time and convert it to NTSC, and use the extra lines of resolution for rendering widescreen versions and deshaking.

August 29th, 2005, 03:52 PM	#503
Matt McConnell Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Scotts Valley, CA Posts: 33	Well that is a real bummer. Please keep me up to date with what Sony has to say about this issue. (I have been logged on with administrator rights when seeing this issue) Unfortunately I do not have Nero or any other burning software, so I can not burn a DVD. I know of some free CD ripping tools, are there any free DVD burning tools anyone could recommend?

August 29th, 2005, 07:27 PM	#504
Darryl Grob New Boot Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 11	Nero 6.6 for US $79.99 http://ww2.nero.com/enu/index.html Hard to beat, not free, but quite an ensamble. I only download and use the first 2 packages of the 4 bundles. Nero Recode will take your authored DVD Video_TS and drag the Audio_TS with it, then burn quite nicely. Let me see, if memory serves, click, click, click, click, burn. Darryl

August 29th, 2005, 08:10 PM	#505
Kevin Munn New Boot Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Southington, CT Posts: 19	Compressing mpeg2 I need to compress an mpeg 2 file to fit onto 1 dvd. Can Vegas do this or do I need a separate software?

August 29th, 2005, 09:00 PM	#506
Steve Madsen Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 111	Tricky PIP (for me) Hello hello, I've shot some basketball footage (2 cameras) and am trying to get a particurlar PIP effect. Both shots started full back (wide? haven't got the jargon down yet), while a player was at the free throw line. One camera zoomed in to catch half the amount of information. His reaction while the ball was in flight was very interesting (no, no, no...yes!), so I'd like to put that in the top right hand corner. My problem is that the zoomed shot doesn't keep him in the centre of frame (and he moves some) - so I can keyframe to follow him, but this just gives me a track with a small picture that moves over various areas of the second track. Is there any way I can keep this in the top right of the second track? I've been playing with this for awhile, but no luck - can anyone offer a suggestion? Thanks, Steve

August 29th, 2005, 09:17 PM	#507
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Use Pan/Crop to zoom and pan and follow the player. Use Track Motion to actually create the PIP. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

August 29th, 2005, 09:20 PM	#508
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Vegas can do it but you'll be much better off starting with the original (i.e. non-mpeg2) footage. However, it is quite possible for Vegas and/or DVD Architect to recompress an MPEG2 into a smaller MPEG2 file. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

August 29th, 2005, 09:30 PM	#509
Kevin Munn New Boot Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Southington, CT Posts: 19	How would I go about doing that? I tried setting the quality to about half but it keeps rendering to the same file size.

August 30th, 2005, 02:54 AM	#510
Steve Madsen Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 111	Thanks Edward. It appears I'll have reposition many times in track motion, but it works perfectly.