Vegas Video discussions from 2005 (Q3Q4)

Guy Bruner · August 8th, 2005, 11:42 AM

Or, you can crop it in pan/crop but don't stretch to fill output frame.

Edward Troxel · August 8th, 2005, 11:49 AM

The script needs Vegas 6 (or better, Vegas 6.0b) in order to run. It won't work in Vegas 5.0x.

Philippe Gosselin · August 8th, 2005, 02:28 PM

Hi Ed ,

I will keep it for when I upgrade then ;)

Thank you for your time.

Phil

DJ Kinney · August 8th, 2005, 05:21 PM

And easy as can be, Vegas uses Photoshop format images, so a simple transparent multilayered image in Photoshop will show up as such in Vegas.

And for the little motions, the mini-animations, use the pan/crop. Like for sliding a picture in from the side or something.

DJ Kinney · August 8th, 2005, 05:23 PM

Edward, I was interested in this myself. Is there any occasion after the video has been captured to DV that going to uncompressed would be a benefit?

James Binder · August 8th, 2005, 06:42 PM

I want to create text with a transparent background in After Effects and import into Vegas to be layered over a video track. Can I do this? If so (and for those who work in both programs), how does one export with transparent background in After Effects -- and how do I use that text in Vegas. That is, once I import into Vegas, is there any other step(s)?

Thanks!

Patrick King · August 8th, 2005, 06:59 PM

James,

Why do it in AE, just do it in Vegas. See pages 246-247 in the Vegas User Manual and see if one of those effects isn't what you are looking for.

Edward Troxel · August 8th, 2005, 07:05 PM

In AE, render to uncompressed AVI with Alpha Channel. Import that into Vegas. If the alpha channel is not working, right-click the event, choose Properties, and adjust the alpha channel settings.

James Binder · August 8th, 2005, 07:06 PM

Thanks patrick for the reply --

I can do more in after effects with text. Version 6.5 has some pretty cool text effects (not to mention plugs) and I'd like to use them in vegas...

Anyone?

Edward Troxel · August 8th, 2005, 07:07 PM

If everything you're using is DV, none that I can think of.

DJ Kinney · August 8th, 2005, 07:18 PM

O.K. So the short answer is to just minimize the number of renders. Maybe capture -> 24fps conversion -> colour correction, etc. -> final render...

Or would one do all of the colour correction and editing together, fades and all, then render with the 24fps conversion? If one wanted 24 frames.

But wait...wouldn't working in uncompressed mean you could render as many times as you wanted without degredation?

DJ Kinney · August 8th, 2005, 07:21 PM

What kind of effects specifically? I'd like to see if there are ways to do them in Vegas. Just as a comparison.

James Binder · August 8th, 2005, 07:24 PM

Edward –

Thanks – you’ve been a great help yet again!

I was already exporting with the alpha channel (from AE), but I didn’t know that I had to adjust the event under its ‘properties.’ Success! ‘Premultiplied’ seems to look best for straight text – sound about right?

BTY -- have used your Excalibur plugin for business events editing and love it. Great plugin. I need to upgrade to the latest version though when I get a chance!

Thanks again --

Edward Troxel · August 8th, 2005, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Binder

Success! ‘Premultiplied’ seems to look best for straight text – sound about right?

Good to hear. Yes that sounds about right. Sometimes I get better results with Premultiplied Dirty, though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Binder

BTW -- have used your Excalibur plugin for business events editing and love it. Great plugin. I need to upgrade to the latest version though when I get a chance!

Thanks.

Bennis Hahn · August 8th, 2005, 07:53 PM

Ok, here is a simpler question:

CCing with uncompressed footage will look no better then CCing with DV footage when both originated as DV anyway?

August 8th, 2005, 11:49 AM	#287
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	The script needs Vegas 6 (or better, Vegas 6.0b) in order to run. It won't work in Vegas 5.0x. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

August 8th, 2005, 02:28 PM	#288
Philippe Gosselin Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Montreal , Canada Posts: 197	Hi Ed , I will keep it for when I upgrade then ;) Thank you for your time. Phil __________________ Still lost in Vice city My website: www.production24fps.com/english.php

August 8th, 2005, 06:42 PM	#291
James Binder Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: NY, NYC Posts: 367	Text with transparent background? I want to create text with a transparent background in After Effects and import into Vegas to be layered over a video track. Can I do this? If so (and for those who work in both programs), how does one export with transparent background in After Effects -- and how do I use that text in Vegas. That is, once I import into Vegas, is there any other step(s)? Thanks!

August 8th, 2005, 06:59 PM	#292
Patrick King Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Enterprise, AL Posts: 857	James, Why do it in AE, just do it in Vegas. See pages 246-247 in the Vegas User Manual and see if one of those effects isn't what you are looking for. __________________ Fear No Weevil!

August 8th, 2005, 07:05 PM	#293
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	In AE, render to uncompressed AVI with Alpha Channel. Import that into Vegas. If the alpha channel is not working, right-click the event, choose Properties, and adjust the alpha channel settings. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

August 8th, 2005, 11:42 AM	#286
Guy Bruner Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ashford, AL Posts: 937	Or, you can crop it in pan/crop but don't stretch to fill output frame.

August 8th, 2005, 05:21 PM	#289
DJ Kinney Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 277	And easy as can be, Vegas uses Photoshop format images, so a simple transparent multilayered image in Photoshop will show up as such in Vegas. And for the little motions, the mini-animations, use the pan/crop. Like for sliding a picture in from the side or something.

August 8th, 2005, 05:23 PM	#290
DJ Kinney Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 277	Edward, I was interested in this myself. Is there any occasion after the video has been captured to DV that going to uncompressed would be a benefit?

August 8th, 2005, 07:06 PM	#294
James Binder Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: NY, NYC Posts: 367	Thanks patrick for the reply -- I can do more in after effects with text. Version 6.5 has some pretty cool text effects (not to mention plugs) and I'd like to use them in vegas... Anyone?

August 8th, 2005, 07:07 PM	#295
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	If everything you're using is DV, none that I can think of. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

August 8th, 2005, 07:18 PM	#296
DJ Kinney Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 277	O.K. So the short answer is to just minimize the number of renders. Maybe capture -> 24fps conversion -> colour correction, etc. -> final render... Or would one do all of the colour correction and editing together, fades and all, then render with the 24fps conversion? If one wanted 24 frames. But wait...wouldn't working in uncompressed mean you could render as many times as you wanted without degredation?

August 8th, 2005, 07:21 PM	#297
DJ Kinney Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 277	What kind of effects specifically? I'd like to see if there are ways to do them in Vegas. Just as a comparison.

August 8th, 2005, 07:24 PM	#298
James Binder Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: NY, NYC Posts: 367	Edward – Thanks – you’ve been a great help yet again! I was already exporting with the alpha channel (from AE), but I didn’t know that I had to adjust the event under its ‘properties.’ Success! ‘Premultiplied’ seems to look best for straight text – sound about right? BTY -- have used your Excalibur plugin for business events editing and love it. Great plugin. I need to upgrade to the latest version though when I get a chance! Thanks again --

August 8th, 2005, 07:53 PM	#300
Bennis Hahn Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 221	Ok, here is a simpler question: CCing with uncompressed footage will look no better then CCing with DV footage when both originated as DV anyway?