Vegas Video discussions from 2005 (Q3Q4)

Patrick King · July 25th, 2005, 07:38 AM

Hugh,

Did Sony tech support indicate if/when Vegas would support the rapidly approaching 64bit evolution?

Hugh DiMauro · July 25th, 2005, 07:53 AM

Nary a whisper. I hope soon.

Ian Slessor · July 25th, 2005, 10:14 AM

Hello all,

This forum is so helpful.

I'm using Vegas 5 and I'm wondering what the best order is for video fx.

As an example I have a dance recital that I'm editing. The main camera is notably overexposed but not irretreavably (sp?) so. I also want to do minor colour correction.

Which would be first. Making the exposure consistent or the colour correction?

Thanks for any help you can provide.

sincerely,

ian

Edward Troxel · July 25th, 2005, 10:49 AM

I would do as you said: exposure first, CC second. It's hard to CC first as your exposure changes would affect your CC.

Rick Spilman · July 25th, 2005, 03:57 PM

Does Vegas support either 608 or 708 closed captioning? I am bidding on some broadcast work which requires closed captioning. I know several services that will add the captioning but am wondering whether I have the capability in Vegas.

Thanks for any wisdom.

Rick Spilman

Edward Troxel · July 25th, 2005, 06:37 PM

Vegas does not do true closed captioning.

David Ennis · July 26th, 2005, 09:22 AM

When choosing still frames for menu button thumnails, I find two annoyances.

1. The drop-down scrubber in the properties menu is imprecise even when stretched across the screen

2. The thumbnails are too small to see subtle differences.

I can follow the link to get a bigger display, use the main video scrubber and manually copy the associated time to the properties menu, but this is time consuming.

Have I exhausted the options here?

Bill Binder · July 26th, 2005, 01:57 PM

Alright, this is probably going to sound like a total newbie question, but here goes... I'm using a Panny GS400 and Vegas 6.0b.

If I've recorded two seperate and independant mono audio signals to my stereo mini jack inputs on my camcorder (one mono track on the L channel, and a different mono track on the R channel), what is the best workflow in VEGAS 6 to edit the mono tracks independantly. Can I do something during capture to seperate the channels? Or do I capture the same way I always do, and then split them up into different audio tracks in vegas somehow? Thanks in advance for any tips on this front...

Devin Eskew · July 26th, 2005, 02:37 PM

You should be able to captue normally, You may select either channel by right clicking on the event in your time line and pick either R or L by selecting the appropriate one on the channel tab. If you want to cut back and forth between them I might suggest using two copies of the audio on the time line, have one set to left and one right, that way you can cut between the two. However I have never had to do this myself with any legnthy video/audio. I am sure if you wait a bit someone with more experience may shed further light as to how you might go about it. Good Luck!

Edward Troxel · July 26th, 2005, 03:22 PM

Yes, do exactly as Devin said. Simply duplicate the audio to a second track, make one of them "Left" and the other "Right" by right-clicking, channels, and the picking left or right.

I do that entire process very quickly by using the Stereo Split tool in Excalibur. The manual process is very fast, though.

David Ennis · July 26th, 2005, 06:00 PM

Edward, does Vegas make a copy of the original when you edit, as external sound programs do when you invoke them from the timeline? If not, I'd suggest that Bill do this manually before he alters his file.

Rick Spilman · July 26th, 2005, 06:33 PM

Thanks Ed. Guess I'll budget the closed captioning service.

Edward Troxel · July 26th, 2005, 06:56 PM

Vegas doesn't modify the source file when doing this process. It simply uses a piece of the original file. So just copy it, set the left and right as described, and you don't have to worry about the original file being changed.

David Ennis · July 26th, 2005, 07:05 PM

But he said he wanted to EDIT the left and right tracks after separating, so I suggest making a backup of the original.

Bill Binder · July 26th, 2005, 07:18 PM

Guys, thanks a bunch, I should have known it would be that easy! And, BTW, when I said "edit," I only meant in the Vegas timeline, which will leave the original file untouched, so no worries on that front. Thanks again!

July 25th, 2005, 07:38 AM	#166
Patrick King Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Enterprise, AL Posts: 857	Hugh, Did Sony tech support indicate if/when Vegas would support the rapidly approaching 64bit evolution? __________________ Fear No Weevil!

July 25th, 2005, 07:53 AM	#167
Hugh DiMauro Trustee Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,207	Nary a whisper. I hope soon. __________________ Interesting, if true. And interesting anyway.

July 25th, 2005, 10:14 AM	#168
Ian Slessor Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South-Central Ontario, Canada Posts: 216	Order of video fx... Hello all, This forum is so helpful. I'm using Vegas 5 and I'm wondering what the best order is for video fx. As an example I have a dance recital that I'm editing. The main camera is notably overexposed but not irretreavably (sp?) so. I also want to do minor colour correction. Which would be first. Making the exposure consistent or the colour correction? Thanks for any help you can provide. sincerely, ian

July 25th, 2005, 10:49 AM	#169
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	I would do as you said: exposure first, CC second. It's hard to CC first as your exposure changes would affect your CC. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

July 25th, 2005, 03:57 PM	#170
Rick Spilman Major Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Jersey City, NJ Posts: 366	Closed Captioning Does Vegas support either 608 or 708 closed captioning? I am bidding on some broadcast work which requires closed captioning. I know several services that will add the captioning but am wondering whether I have the capability in Vegas. Thanks for any wisdom. Rick Spilman

July 25th, 2005, 06:37 PM	#171
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Vegas does not do true closed captioning. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

July 26th, 2005, 09:22 AM	#172
David Ennis Fred Retread Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Hartford, CT Posts: 1,227	Setting thumbnail start times When choosing still frames for menu button thumnails, I find two annoyances. 1. The drop-down scrubber in the properties menu is imprecise even when stretched across the screen 2. The thumbnails are too small to see subtle differences. I can follow the link to get a bigger display, use the main video scrubber and manually copy the associated time to the properties menu, but this is time consuming. Have I exhausted the options here? __________________ "Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence..." - Calvin Coolidge "My brain is wired to want to know how other things are wired." - Me

July 26th, 2005, 01:57 PM	#173
Bill Binder Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: San Francisco Posts: 542	Editing 2-Channel Audio in Seperate Tracks? Alright, this is probably going to sound like a total newbie question, but here goes... I'm using a Panny GS400 and Vegas 6.0b. If I've recorded two seperate and independant mono audio signals to my stereo mini jack inputs on my camcorder (one mono track on the L channel, and a different mono track on the R channel), what is the best workflow in VEGAS 6 to edit the mono tracks independantly. Can I do something during capture to seperate the channels? Or do I capture the same way I always do, and then split them up into different audio tracks in vegas somehow? Thanks in advance for any tips on this front...

July 26th, 2005, 02:37 PM	#174
Devin Eskew Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 115	You should be able to captue normally, You may select either channel by right clicking on the event in your time line and pick either R or L by selecting the appropriate one on the channel tab. If you want to cut back and forth between them I might suggest using two copies of the audio on the time line, have one set to left and one right, that way you can cut between the two. However I have never had to do this myself with any legnthy video/audio. I am sure if you wait a bit someone with more experience may shed further light as to how you might go about it. Good Luck! __________________ We learn by doing, we learn better by making mistakes!

July 26th, 2005, 03:22 PM	#175
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Yes, do exactly as Devin said. Simply duplicate the audio to a second track, make one of them "Left" and the other "Right" by right-clicking, channels, and the picking left or right. I do that entire process very quickly by using the Stereo Split tool in Excalibur. The manual process is very fast, though. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

July 26th, 2005, 06:00 PM	#176
David Ennis Fred Retread Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Hartford, CT Posts: 1,227	Edward, does Vegas make a copy of the original when you edit, as external sound programs do when you invoke them from the timeline? If not, I'd suggest that Bill do this manually before he alters his file. __________________ "Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence..." - Calvin Coolidge "My brain is wired to want to know how other things are wired." - Me

July 26th, 2005, 06:33 PM	#177
Rick Spilman Major Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Jersey City, NJ Posts: 366	Thanks Ed. Guess I'll budget the closed captioning service.

July 26th, 2005, 06:56 PM	#178
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Vegas doesn't modify the source file when doing this process. It simply uses a piece of the original file. So just copy it, set the left and right as described, and you don't have to worry about the original file being changed. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

July 26th, 2005, 07:05 PM	#179
David Ennis Fred Retread Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Hartford, CT Posts: 1,227	But he said he wanted to EDIT the left and right tracks after separating, so I suggest making a backup of the original. __________________ "Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence..." - Calvin Coolidge "My brain is wired to want to know how other things are wired." - Me

July 26th, 2005, 07:18 PM	#180
Bill Binder Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: San Francisco Posts: 542	Guys, thanks a bunch, I should have known it would be that easy! And, BTW, when I said "edit," I only meant in the Vegas timeline, which will leave the original file untouched, so no worries on that front. Thanks again!