Magic Bullet LOOKS

Jason McDonald · September 14th, 2009, 08:23 AM

So I was messing with MBL a while back with the trial version. I was upset I couldn't get it to work in 2 NLE's that were supposed to support it AND with a graphic card that was more than good enough.

I happen to run into a post about MBL saying that footage has to be rendered FIRST from it's RAW format to something else before MBL's would open properly (I was getting Open Gl errors.)

I was wondering if those of you using MBL could confirm that?

Mike Calla · September 14th, 2009, 08:34 AM

what kind of uncompressed format - HD, SD, 24, 25, 50, 60, 30? I'll do a little test for ya.

Jason McDonald · September 14th, 2009, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike Calla

what kind of uncompressed format - HD, SD, 24, 25, 50, 60, 30? I'll do a little test for ya.

When I capture I usually get mt2 files.

Mike Calla · September 14th, 2009, 06:09 PM

Sorry, sorry, sorry - for some reason, when i read "RAW" i thought of "uncompressed", but you meant native format.

i can tell m2t works fine!

Jason McDonald · September 15th, 2009, 12:38 AM

OK. I've managed to get another trial working.
When in Vegas, does not allow me to open the 'edit' box. It will give me the Gl error message and close on me. This is with mt2 files.
THEN, I converted it using sony codec, brought it back into Vegas, and now it opens fine (With the watermarks across the front, which I never saw the first time around since everything would just go black).

So, what could be wrong here.
Running with a Nvidia GeForce 9600GT, WinXP, 2GB RAM, Triple-core AMD processor. Not sure what else would really affect this application.

Ian Stark · September 15th, 2009, 08:33 AM

m2t files are, as Mike says, fine. Your video card should be fine also.

- what is the exact wording on the OpenGL error messages?

- using the latest video drivers?

- are you using a recent version of Vegas that supports m2t (in other words, you can see them on the timeline and edit them normally, right?)

- might be a limitation of the trial?

- What version of MBL are you trying?

Jason McDonald · September 15th, 2009, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Ian Stark

m2t files are, as Mike says, fine. Your video card should be fine also.

- what is the exact wording on the OpenGL error messages?

An OpenGL error occured while attempting to load the frame (fragment shader at -1:)

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Originally Posted by Ian Stark

- using the latest video drivers?

Yes.

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Originally Posted by Ian Stark

- are you using a recent version of Vegas that supports m2t (in other words, you can see them on the timeline and edit them normally, right?)

Yes. I am using Vegas 8.

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Originally Posted by Ian Stark

- might be a limitation of the trial?

I believe it says it has full functionality on their website but would be watermarked. I had no idea you would have to first render it to an avi then start editing with LOOKS

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Originally Posted by Ian Stark

- What version of MBL are you trying?

The latest one available on their website.

Ian Stark · September 15th, 2009, 09:35 AM

You do not need to pre-convert m2t files. That's not where your problem is.

From what you're saying, I'm not convinced the problem lies within Vegas or Looks and I suspect it to be an issue with your card or drivers. I have read a couple of suggestions that may or may not help:

1. Uninstall then reinstall the nvidia drivers.
2. Revert to earlier drivers.

Both seem to have worked for others. If you're able to get your hands on another supported video card for testing, that would also rule in or out problems with your 9600.

Out of interest, is it Vegas Pro 8.0c? What did you use to capture the clips? I assume you have this problem with any or all m2t clips?

Have you tried Red Giant support?

Jason McDonald · September 15th, 2009, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian Stark

You do not need to pre-convert m2t files. That's not where your problem is.

From what you're saying, I'm not convinced the problem lies within Vegas or Looks and I suspect it to be an issue with your card or drivers. I have read a couple of suggestions that may or may not help:

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Originally Posted by Ian Stark

1. Uninstall then reinstall the nvidia drivers.
2. Revert to earlier drivers.

I will try this (It's 2am in Japan so I'll do that tomorrow.)

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Originally Posted by Ian Stark

Both seem to have worked for others. If you're able to get your hands on another supported video card for testing, that would also rule in or out problems with your 9600.

I don't have a card but I was hoping to get the same 9600 and use SLi. I don't have another card to test with on hand. I will look though. Perhaps a fresh install is needed.

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Originally Posted by Ian Stark

Out of interest, is it Vegas Pro 8.0c? What did you use to capture the clips? I assume you have this problem with any or all m2t clips?

Used Vegas Pro 8.0c to capture and this happens with any and all m2t files captured.

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Originally Posted by Ian Stark

Have you tried Red Giant support?

Yup, but no answer.

Mike Calla · September 15th, 2009, 06:20 PM

Be patient and wait for Red Giant to get back to you. MBL can be very temperamental - but once its working, its a dream!

Jason McDonald · September 15th, 2009, 11:29 PM

i emailed them months ago.

Ian Stark · September 16th, 2009, 12:38 AM

Might be worth posting something here : Toolfarm Expert Forums: Toolfarm Expert Forums :: Red Giant Plugins (Inc. Magic Bullet) I believe Magic Bullet people respond to posts, but couldn't tell you how quickly.

Perhaps as you're only using the demo you aren't entitled to support? That would seem a bit daft though, as presumably you aren't going to buy the product until this problem is resolved!

Mike Calla · September 16th, 2009, 01:18 AM

Actually in my experience (however it may have changed) when opening a support ticket with Red Giant, they do not ask for serial #s, so they wouldn't even know it was a trial. My first version of MBL was a cracked copy - yes i regularly use cracked software before buying - I needed support and got it, no questions asked

If you emailed, and got no response, why'd you stop? Keep pestering them!

September 14th, 2009, 08:23 AM	#1
Jason McDonald Major Player Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Japan Posts: 295	Magic Bullet LOOKS - convert first? So I was messing with MBL a while back with the trial version. I was upset I couldn't get it to work in 2 NLE's that were supposed to support it AND with a graphic card that was more than good enough. I happen to run into a post about MBL saying that footage has to be rendered FIRST from it's RAW format to something else before MBL's would open properly (I was getting Open Gl errors.) I was wondering if those of you using MBL could confirm that?

September 14th, 2009, 08:34 AM	#2
Mike Calla Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Shanghai Posts: 344	what kind of uncompressed format - HD, SD, 24, 25, 50, 60, 30? I'll do a little test for ya. __________________ boxoutsidemedia.com

September 14th, 2009, 06:09 PM	#4
Mike Calla Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Shanghai Posts: 344	Sorry, sorry, sorry Sorry, sorry, sorry - for some reason, when i read "RAW" i thought of "uncompressed", but you meant native format. i can tell m2t works fine! __________________ boxoutsidemedia.com

September 15th, 2009, 08:33 AM	#6
Ian Stark Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,237	m2t files are, as Mike says, fine. Your video card should be fine also. - what is the exact wording on the OpenGL error messages? - using the latest video drivers? - are you using a recent version of Vegas that supports m2t (in other words, you can see them on the timeline and edit them normally, right?) - might be a limitation of the trial? - What version of MBL are you trying? __________________ www.vit-media.com www.classicmachinefilms.co.uk

September 15th, 2009, 09:35 AM	#8
Ian Stark Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,237	You do not need to pre-convert m2t files. That's not where your problem is. From what you're saying, I'm not convinced the problem lies within Vegas or Looks and I suspect it to be an issue with your card or drivers. I have read a couple of suggestions that may or may not help: 1. Uninstall then reinstall the nvidia drivers. 2. Revert to earlier drivers. Both seem to have worked for others. If you're able to get your hands on another supported video card for testing, that would also rule in or out problems with your 9600. Out of interest, is it Vegas Pro 8.0c? What did you use to capture the clips? I assume you have this problem with any or all m2t clips? Have you tried Red Giant support? __________________ www.vit-media.com www.classicmachinefilms.co.uk

September 15th, 2009, 12:38 AM	#5
Jason McDonald Major Player Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Japan Posts: 295	OK. I've managed to get another trial working. When in Vegas, does not allow me to open the 'edit' box. It will give me the Gl error message and close on me. This is with mt2 files. THEN, I converted it using sony codec, brought it back into Vegas, and now it opens fine (With the watermarks across the front, which I never saw the first time around since everything would just go black). So, what could be wrong here. Running with a Nvidia GeForce 9600GT, WinXP, 2GB RAM, Triple-core AMD processor. Not sure what else would really affect this application.

September 15th, 2009, 06:20 PM	#10
Mike Calla Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Shanghai Posts: 344	Be patient and wait for Red Giant to get back to you. MBL can be very temperamental - but once its working, its a dream! __________________ boxoutsidemedia.com

September 15th, 2009, 11:29 PM	#11
Jason McDonald Major Player Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Japan Posts: 295	i emailed them months ago.

September 16th, 2009, 12:38 AM	#12
Ian Stark Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,237	Might be worth posting something here : Toolfarm Expert Forums: Toolfarm Expert Forums :: Red Giant Plugins (Inc. Magic Bullet) I believe Magic Bullet people respond to posts, but couldn't tell you how quickly. Perhaps as you're only using the demo you aren't entitled to support? That would seem a bit daft though, as presumably you aren't going to buy the product until this problem is resolved! __________________ www.vit-media.com www.classicmachinefilms.co.uk

September 16th, 2009, 01:18 AM	#13
Mike Calla Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Shanghai Posts: 344	Actually in my experience (however it may have changed) when opening a support ticket with Red Giant, they do not ask for serial #s, so they wouldn't even know it was a trial. My first version of MBL was a cracked copy - yes i regularly use cracked software before buying - I needed support and got it, no questions asked If you emailed, and got no response, why'd you stop? Keep pestering them! __________________ boxoutsidemedia.com