Vegas Video discussions from 2005 (Q1Q2)

Dennis Liu · April 25th, 2005, 04:24 PM

Hi Rob,

Thanks for the tip. Is there anyway to automate a process which STRETCHES each image sequence by duplicating each frame x number of times? Or is manual dragging each frame individually on the timeline the only way to do it?

:oS

Dennis

EDIT: I figured it out. Basically I'll have to re-import all the images as SEPARATE IMAGES, then change the 'New still image length' in Preferences (Editing) to 5 frames (at 25fps) and drag all the individual images onto the timeline in one go. This should do the trick.

Edward Troxel · April 25th, 2005, 05:28 PM

What's an "Adobe Default Windows Sound Driver"? Does it start after doing a reboot? Can you do something to get rid of the Adobe setting?

Danny Santos · April 25th, 2005, 07:00 PM

I just rendered and created 2 mpg2 files in Vegas 5. For DVD authoring, I used Sonic MYDVD to create the DVD. Unfortunately, my DVD player will not play it although in the past I have created DVDs and used the same player. The many DVDs I created using Pinnacle Studio 9 and Sonic MyDVD has been successful on this player and other player in the house.

So, what am I doing wrong?
1. Does Vegas 5 support +R. +RW discs?
2. Would it be my MPG2 rendering setup? I am using the standard/default setup such as:
Save File as: MainConcept MPEg2
Template: DVD NTSC
Video Rendering Quality: Good
Frame Rate: 29.97
Aspect Ratio: 4:3 Display

Anyone please. Thanks.

Dan Feder · April 25th, 2005, 07:55 PM

Thanks for the help but turns out that I was just not paying attention closely enough. The Splash Screen for Vegas 6 comes up above any other window, and it came up above that adobe sound driver window. That window was an error saying that I didn't have my audio in line active, and after realizing that i could move that error window out from behind the splash screen, I was in business. I think the new version of vegas is great, and I'm glad that I am able to use it now with no problems at all.

Edward Troxel · April 25th, 2005, 08:49 PM

1. Vegas 5 does not author or burn DVD's so it doesn't have anything to do with +R or +RW discs.

2. It DOES create valid MPEG2 files, though.

Edward Troxel · April 25th, 2005, 08:52 PM

Good to hear you got it working.

Peter Jefferson · April 25th, 2005, 08:59 PM

what this means is that you may have previously installed Prem Pro on ur system and with it, inadvertanly installed an proxy ASIO driver which is conflicting with yrou existing ASIO drivers through a soundblaster card or any other card using ASIO HW drviers...

there is a fix for it, but right now, my net connection isnt letting me get to my other forum to fish it out for you..

stay tuned...

Peter Jefferson · April 25th, 2005, 09:05 PM

there are many factors in ths situation.. primarily the media you are using, and the dvd authoring tool

some dvd players flat out refuse to play a disc for its make, while others wont play them due to the file system...

you wont get 100% compatibility with every disc u make...

one thing to note though, is that dvd architect1/2/3 has been designed with the DVDForum specs specifically for compatibility. Its file system protocol is identical to a commercial dvd, which gives it an advantage on the other aplications when it comes to compatibility...

to save burning coasters, an idea is to use rewriteable dvd's as masters

Chris Trainor · April 26th, 2005, 12:23 AM

I wrote into this forum earlier this week about slow rendering in V5.

A 25 min clip, 80% mp2 and remaining avi's, no effects (pre-rendered) and a few masks, estimated time to render to mp2 = 14 hours. Does that sound accurate? I just dont recall rendering moving so slowly.

So my question:

I capture as full frame avi. Should I do all the editing, correcting, etc as an avi, then render it down to a 'flattened' avi or mp2 then insert, or import the footage into an existing project, work on it, then render the whole thing at once? Does this make sense? It is late and my computer is slow.

Chris Trainor · April 26th, 2005, 12:26 AM

what about rendering to another drive?

I have another internal 80 gig and an external firewire lacie. Any chances that would speed it up? Just got handled the probably impossible deadline...

Chris Trainor · April 26th, 2005, 02:47 AM

I have made desperate attempts on this board and other to try to determine what is going on.

I tried to render an identical clip on a laptop (that I no longer have access to!!) and it completed right at five minutes. My xeon p4 cpu maxed out to 100% on the same clip, after 13 minutes I cancelled.

What could cause this? It has been working flawlessly until recently. I would gladly reformat the entire machine and start from scratch, but I have a deadline for Wed night I have to meet and cant handle a 19 hour render on a 26 min video. Reinstalled Vegas with no avail.

Any suggestions are GREATLY appreciated.

Rob Lohman · April 26th, 2005, 02:52 AM

1. which version of Windows?

2. which version of Vegas?

Did you change ANYTHING at all? Xeon's are server processors and I don't
know if these are on the supported list for example (although in theory it
shouldn't make a difference, of course).

Bob Safay · April 26th, 2005, 04:01 AM

Hey guys, thanks. This is just what I needed. Thanks again. Bob

Rob Lohman · April 26th, 2005, 05:48 AM

When you say mp2 you mean MPEG-2? mp2 is MPEG-1 layer II audio, not
MPEG-2 video/audio. 14 hours to render to MPEG-2 might be right, you did
not tell us how long this movie is.

Personally I would not go out to AVI first and then to MPEG-2 unless you
are using an external encoder (like Canopus ProCoder). Vegas can read
MPEG-2 just fine.

As I always say: MPEG-2 encoding is an art, it takes lots of time and practice,
both from the encoder and the person operating it. Do not expect perfect
"hollywood-dvd-quality" in an hour or something.

Hugh DiMauro · April 26th, 2005, 06:04 AM

Ever since I applied the 6.0a upgrade from the Sony website, I have my beloved triangles back. Thank you for your reply.

Just so you know, when this happened to me last year with Vegas 5, you told me to re-boot and the triangles would return. You were right! But this time, they didn't until I upgraded to 6.0a from the Sony Media website.

April 25th, 2005, 05:28 PM	#1352
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	What's an "Adobe Default Windows Sound Driver"? Does it start after doing a reboot? Can you do something to get rid of the Adobe setting? __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

April 25th, 2005, 07:00 PM	#1353
Danny Santos Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Antioch, CA USA Posts: 49	Creating DVD I just rendered and created 2 mpg2 files in Vegas 5. For DVD authoring, I used Sonic MYDVD to create the DVD. Unfortunately, my DVD player will not play it although in the past I have created DVDs and used the same player. The many DVDs I created using Pinnacle Studio 9 and Sonic MyDVD has been successful on this player and other player in the house. So, what am I doing wrong? 1. Does Vegas 5 support +R. +RW discs? 2. Would it be my MPG2 rendering setup? I am using the standard/default setup such as: Save File as: MainConcept MPEg2 Template: DVD NTSC Video Rendering Quality: Good Frame Rate: 29.97 Aspect Ratio: 4:3 Display Anyone please. Thanks.

April 25th, 2005, 08:49 PM	#1355
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	1. Vegas 5 does not author or burn DVD's so it doesn't have anything to do with +R or +RW discs. 2. It DOES create valid MPEG2 files, though. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

April 25th, 2005, 08:52 PM	#1356
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Good to hear you got it working. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

April 26th, 2005, 12:23 AM	#1359
Chris Trainor Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: new orleans / baton rouge Posts: 46	Rendering Order? I wrote into this forum earlier this week about slow rendering in V5. A 25 min clip, 80% mp2 and remaining avi's, no effects (pre-rendered) and a few masks, estimated time to render to mp2 = 14 hours. Does that sound accurate? I just dont recall rendering moving so slowly. So my question: I capture as full frame avi. Should I do all the editing, correcting, etc as an avi, then render it down to a 'flattened' avi or mp2 then insert, or import the footage into an existing project, work on it, then render the whole thing at once? Does this make sense? It is late and my computer is slow.

April 25th, 2005, 04:24 PM	#1351
Dennis Liu Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 136	Hi Rob, Thanks for the tip. Is there anyway to automate a process which STRETCHES each image sequence by duplicating each frame x number of times? Or is manual dragging each frame individually on the timeline the only way to do it? :oS Dennis EDIT: I figured it out. Basically I'll have to re-import all the images as SEPARATE IMAGES, then change the 'New still image length' in Preferences (Editing) to 5 frames (at 25fps) and drag all the individual images onto the timeline in one go. This should do the trick.

April 25th, 2005, 07:55 PM	#1354
Dan Feder Tourist Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2	Thanks for the help but turns out that I was just not paying attention closely enough. The Splash Screen for Vegas 6 comes up above any other window, and it came up above that adobe sound driver window. That window was an error saying that I didn't have my audio in line active, and after realizing that i could move that error window out from behind the splash screen, I was in business. I think the new version of vegas is great, and I'm glad that I am able to use it now with no problems at all.

April 25th, 2005, 08:59 PM	#1357
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	what this means is that you may have previously installed Prem Pro on ur system and with it, inadvertanly installed an proxy ASIO driver which is conflicting with yrou existing ASIO drivers through a soundblaster card or any other card using ASIO HW drviers... there is a fix for it, but right now, my net connection isnt letting me get to my other forum to fish it out for you.. stay tuned...

April 25th, 2005, 09:05 PM	#1358
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	there are many factors in ths situation.. primarily the media you are using, and the dvd authoring tool some dvd players flat out refuse to play a disc for its make, while others wont play them due to the file system... you wont get 100% compatibility with every disc u make... one thing to note though, is that dvd architect1/2/3 has been designed with the DVDForum specs specifically for compatibility. Its file system protocol is identical to a commercial dvd, which gives it an advantage on the other aplications when it comes to compatibility... to save burning coasters, an idea is to use rewriteable dvd's as masters

April 26th, 2005, 12:26 AM	#1360
Chris Trainor Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: new orleans / baton rouge Posts: 46	what about rendering to another drive? I have another internal 80 gig and an external firewire lacie. Any chances that would speed it up? Just got handled the probably impossible deadline...

April 26th, 2005, 02:47 AM	#1361
Chris Trainor Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: new orleans / baton rouge Posts: 46	Vegas rendering chews up my cpu to 100% I have made desperate attempts on this board and other to try to determine what is going on. I tried to render an identical clip on a laptop (that I no longer have access to!!) and it completed right at five minutes. My xeon p4 cpu maxed out to 100% on the same clip, after 13 minutes I cancelled. What could cause this? It has been working flawlessly until recently. I would gladly reformat the entire machine and start from scratch, but I have a deadline for Wed night I have to meet and cant handle a 19 hour render on a 26 min video. Reinstalled Vegas with no avail. Any suggestions are GREATLY appreciated.

April 26th, 2005, 02:52 AM	#1362
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	1. which version of Windows? 2. which version of Vegas? Did you change ANYTHING at all? Xeon's are server processors and I don't know if these are on the supported list for example (although in theory it shouldn't make a difference, of course). __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

April 26th, 2005, 04:01 AM	#1363
Bob Safay Trustee Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 1,558	Hey guys, thanks. This is just what I needed. Thanks again. Bob

April 26th, 2005, 05:48 AM	#1364
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	When you say mp2 you mean MPEG-2? mp2 is MPEG-1 layer II audio, not MPEG-2 video/audio. 14 hours to render to MPEG-2 might be right, you did not tell us how long this movie is. Personally I would not go out to AVI first and then to MPEG-2 unless you are using an external encoder (like Canopus ProCoder). Vegas can read MPEG-2 just fine. As I always say: MPEG-2 encoding is an art, it takes lots of time and practice, both from the encoder and the person operating it. Do not expect perfect "hollywood-dvd-quality" in an hour or something. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

April 26th, 2005, 06:04 AM	#1365
Hugh DiMauro Trustee Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,207	Thanks, Ed! Ever since I applied the 6.0a upgrade from the Sony website, I have my beloved triangles back. Thank you for your reply. Just so you know, when this happened to me last year with Vegas 5, you told me to re-boot and the triangles would return. You were right! But this time, they didn't until I upgraded to 6.0a from the Sony Media website. __________________ Interesting, if true. And interesting anyway.