Vegas Video discussions from 2005 (Q1Q2)

Brent Marks · March 25th, 2005, 02:39 PM

I just tried to render an m2t file in Vegas5 to the preset 24p NTSC widescreen...

The video came out great... but there was no Audio!

WHAT GIVES?

HELP!

Edward Troxel · March 25th, 2005, 03:05 PM

Was the include audio option turned on?

You can also render the audio to a separate WAV file.

James Binder · March 25th, 2005, 04:39 PM

bump up...

If anyone could even answer one or the other, I'd very much appreciate it...

Thanks again --

Jack Smith · March 25th, 2005, 08:02 PM

I believe the DVD standard is 48k.Some things may play I don't know,I guessing most won't play with 44.1k. but to follow the DVD standard use 48k.I would suggest rerendering to a 48k audio however if you don't change the video it should render pretty fast.
Mixing audio of different properties(ie 48k and 44.1k) has been tabu in years past so I automatically convert all my audio to the same as the project settings.I don't know if you HAVE to I just do it.
I'm not sure I get the hum problem.Are you saying you have a project with 48k audio and when rendered as mpg2 at 48k you get hum?
Is that once burned to DVD?are you using AC3?
or played on computer ?
Do you have mixed audio in the timeline(44.1 & 48k)?
With a little more info maybe someone her can figure out your problem

Brent Marks · March 25th, 2005, 09:27 PM

duh, yeah, that was it... my bad... sorry i posted so quick

Andy Shrimpton · March 25th, 2005, 09:45 PM

Joven:

You could do a lot worse than load down all 23 of Edward's newletters, print them out, and read them!

They are one the the quickest ways to get a head's up, they were invaluable to me when I was getting started.

Andy

Bryan Mitchell · March 26th, 2005, 04:36 AM

Yeah, seriously. All you do is drop in this one file (I use a PNG I made myself, but it's the exact same thing), then stretch out the thing in the timeline to cover the whole project. It's extremely simple and takes like 30 seconds.

Mark Errante · March 26th, 2005, 10:50 AM

Ok Ive been editing some xl2 and dvx footage together. Heres the facts.

-The XL2 was captured as 16:9.

-The DVXs were captured as 4:3 and shot letterboxed.

-Vegas is set up as a 4:3 project.

Ok so when I butt the DVX letterboxed with the XL2, I first discovered that the black bars didnt match up and looked like they were jumping around. No problum, I pan/croped the dvx stuff in slightly to match the xl2 letterbox that was automatically produced when I draged the xl2 footage into the 4:3 timeline.

The problum is, when I burnt it out to DVD there is occasioanlly a white line of distortion along the top of the black bars on both the top and bottom. Its slight but noticable. It also seems random. Any ideas what this is?

I figure I can put in a mat on another track to correct but Id rather know what the problum is. Thanks. Oh yeah, is there a downloadable letterbox mat anywhere?

Thanks

Josh Bass · March 26th, 2005, 11:06 AM

What I've found to be what seems to be the "correct way" to do it (assuming you're wanting 16:9) is this: you take something easy, like a solid color, apply the letterbox in pan/crop, then render out that to an AVI File (for some reason, I've had issues using stills, I get a white line at the top of the letterbox, between the black and the video). Take this AVI, put in a track over the video, stretch it to whatever length you need (if it loops, who cares? It's all the same), and use the chroma key to get rid of the solid color.

This may be too elaborate, but it always works for me.

Joven OHara · March 26th, 2005, 01:42 PM

Thank you.....

Bryan Mitchell · March 26th, 2005, 05:42 PM

I use to get a line between the letterbox and the video as well. That was when I was using a gif though. That or something created with the media generator. After I created the same thing as a PNG (which has an alpha channel and all that jazz) it works fine. I just crop it out in Cleaner anyway, but it looks fine.

Glenn Chan · March 26th, 2005, 06:39 PM

The PNG method sounds better.

If you use the pan/crop tool, check that effects are applied BEFORE the pan/crop. If you have gaussian blur, then the letterbox (black bars) will get blurred too. Also, you may accidentally copy over some clip attributes you may not want to (like reduce interlace flicker).

Magnus Helander · March 27th, 2005, 06:05 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Glenn Gipson : Here's an honest articel about 64bit computing.

http://www.techreport.com/reviews/20...s/index.x?pg=1 -->>>

Very well written - best so far... this section i enjoyed...

"By moving to a 64-bit addressing scheme, the possible address space grows exponentially from 232 to 264, so that the x86-64 ISA allows for what seems like a practically unlimited amount of memory. The theoretical peak size of a 64-bit address space is 16 exabytes, an extremely large number. Current AMD64 processors allow up to 40 bits of physical address space, or one terabyte, and up to 48 bits of virtual address space, or 256TB. Initial versions of WinXP x64 will support as much as 128GB of physical RAM and up to 16 terabytes of virtual memory. The upper limits of the Windows system cache size grow from 1GB in 32 bits to 1TB in 64 bits, a thousand-fold increase. WinXP x64 even takes advantage of the additional headroom for 32-bit apps, giving each one up to 4GB of its own space."

"Special offer: Oder your Dell workstation before August 20 2006 and get two Exabyte of RAM FREE!"

G. Lee Gordon · March 27th, 2005, 07:17 PM

Having trouble saving a file as a quicktime movie. It renders the entire file, but then gives an error message. Any suggestions?

Edward Troxel · March 27th, 2005, 07:46 PM

First of all (just to make sure), when you installed Quicktime, you did choose "Custom" and then picked everything (especially the Authoring Components)?

If yes, what error message are you getting?

March 25th, 2005, 02:39 PM	#1036
Brent Marks Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Houston TX and New Orleans LA Posts: 300	HELP...rendering to mpeg 24p I just tried to render an m2t file in Vegas5 to the preset 24p NTSC widescreen... The video came out great... but there was no Audio! WHAT GIVES? HELP!

March 25th, 2005, 03:05 PM	#1037
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Was the include audio option turned on? You can also render the audio to a separate WAV file. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

March 25th, 2005, 09:45 PM	#1041
Andy Shrimpton Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Robina Queensland Australia Posts: 73	Joven: You could do a lot worse than load down all 23 of Edward's newletters, print them out, and read them! They are one the the quickest ways to get a head's up, they were invaluable to me when I was getting started. Andy __________________ 'This one goes to eleven' Nigel Tufnell

March 26th, 2005, 10:50 AM	#1043
Mark Errante Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: St. Louis MO Posts: 62	Letterbox Distortion Ok Ive been editing some xl2 and dvx footage together. Heres the facts. -The XL2 was captured as 16:9. -The DVXs were captured as 4:3 and shot letterboxed. -Vegas is set up as a 4:3 project. Ok so when I butt the DVX letterboxed with the XL2, I first discovered that the black bars didnt match up and looked like they were jumping around. No problum, I pan/croped the dvx stuff in slightly to match the xl2 letterbox that was automatically produced when I draged the xl2 footage into the 4:3 timeline. The problum is, when I burnt it out to DVD there is occasioanlly a white line of distortion along the top of the black bars on both the top and bottom. Its slight but noticable. It also seems random. Any ideas what this is? I figure I can put in a mat on another track to correct but Id rather know what the problum is. Thanks. Oh yeah, is there a downloadable letterbox mat anywhere? Thanks

March 26th, 2005, 11:06 AM	#1044
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	What I've found to be what seems to be the "correct way" to do it (assuming you're wanting 16:9) is this: you take something easy, like a solid color, apply the letterbox in pan/crop, then render out that to an AVI File (for some reason, I've had issues using stills, I get a white line at the top of the letterbox, between the black and the video). Take this AVI, put in a track over the video, stretch it to whatever length you need (if it loops, who cares? It's all the same), and use the chroma key to get rid of the solid color. This may be too elaborate, but it always works for me. __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

March 25th, 2005, 04:39 PM	#1038
James Binder Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: NY, NYC Posts: 367	bump up... If anyone could even answer one or the other, I'd very much appreciate it... Thanks again --

March 25th, 2005, 08:02 PM	#1039
Jack Smith Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: ontario Posts: 445	I believe the DVD standard is 48k.Some things may play I don't know,I guessing most won't play with 44.1k. but to follow the DVD standard use 48k.I would suggest rerendering to a 48k audio however if you don't change the video it should render pretty fast. Mixing audio of different properties(ie 48k and 44.1k) has been tabu in years past so I automatically convert all my audio to the same as the project settings.I don't know if you HAVE to I just do it. I'm not sure I get the hum problem.Are you saying you have a project with 48k audio and when rendered as mpg2 at 48k you get hum? Is that once burned to DVD?are you using AC3? or played on computer ? Do you have mixed audio in the timeline(44.1 & 48k)? With a little more info maybe someone her can figure out your problem

March 25th, 2005, 09:27 PM	#1040
Brent Marks Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Houston TX and New Orleans LA Posts: 300	duh, yeah, that was it... my bad... sorry i posted so quick

March 26th, 2005, 04:36 AM	#1042
Bryan Mitchell Major Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 316	Yeah, seriously. All you do is drop in this one file (I use a PNG I made myself, but it's the exact same thing), then stretch out the thing in the timeline to cover the whole project. It's extremely simple and takes like 30 seconds.

March 26th, 2005, 01:42 PM	#1045
Joven OHara Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Fremont,CA. USA Posts: 50	thank you Thank you..... __________________ To be.....or not to be

March 26th, 2005, 05:42 PM	#1046
Bryan Mitchell Major Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 316	I use to get a line between the letterbox and the video as well. That was when I was using a gif though. That or something created with the media generator. After I created the same thing as a PNG (which has an alpha channel and all that jazz) it works fine. I just crop it out in Cleaner anyway, but it looks fine.

March 26th, 2005, 06:39 PM	#1047
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	The PNG method sounds better. If you use the pan/crop tool, check that effects are applied BEFORE the pan/crop. If you have gaussian blur, then the letterbox (black bars) will get blurred too. Also, you may accidentally copy over some clip attributes you may not want to (like reduce interlace flicker).

March 27th, 2005, 06:05 AM	#1048
Magnus Helander Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 221	<<<-- Originally posted by Glenn Gipson : Here's an honest articel about 64bit computing. http://www.techreport.com/reviews/20...s/index.x?pg=1 -->>> Very well written - best so far... this section i enjoyed... "By moving to a 64-bit addressing scheme, the possible address space grows exponentially from 232 to 264, so that the x86-64 ISA allows for what seems like a practically unlimited amount of memory. The theoretical peak size of a 64-bit address space is 16 exabytes, an extremely large number. Current AMD64 processors allow up to 40 bits of physical address space, or one terabyte, and up to 48 bits of virtual address space, or 256TB. Initial versions of WinXP x64 will support as much as 128GB of physical RAM and up to 16 terabytes of virtual memory. The upper limits of the Windows system cache size grow from 1GB in 32 bits to 1TB in 64 bits, a thousand-fold increase. WinXP x64 even takes advantage of the additional headroom for 32-bit apps, giving each one up to 4GB of its own space." "Special offer: Oder your Dell workstation before August 20 2006 and get two Exabyte of RAM FREE!" __________________ Magnus Helander, Crossmediageek on G+

March 27th, 2005, 07:17 PM	#1049
G. Lee Gordon Major Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 431	Quicktime movies Having trouble saving a file as a quicktime movie. It renders the entire file, but then gives an error message. Any suggestions?

March 27th, 2005, 07:46 PM	#1050
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	First of all (just to make sure), when you installed Quicktime, you did choose "Custom" and then picked everything (especially the Authoring Components)? If yes, what error message are you getting? __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters