Vegas Video discussions from 2005 (Q1Q2)

Rob Lohman · March 19th, 2005, 04:10 AM

Personally I would use a dedicated burning program like Nero.
Just export to WAV/PCM and load, start nero and create an audio
CD and point it to the WAV/PCM files.

Rob Lohman · March 19th, 2005, 06:42 AM

Usually you edit first, and then work on effects etc. So you can do
the edit in Vegas, output to whatever format you want to work
with and load that into AE etc.

Edward Troxel · March 19th, 2005, 06:49 AM

If you're going to use a dedicated program - how about CD Architect. Exactly what it was designed to do (and now comes FREE with the Sound Forge 8 purchase).

Rob Lohman · March 19th, 2005, 06:50 AM

I didn't even know that existed. Thanks for the heads up Edward!
I'll do some reading on the product.

Edward Troxel · March 19th, 2005, 07:19 AM

The version included with SF8 is version number 5.2. It's been around for many years. Full details can be found at http://mediasoftware.sonypictures.co...ct.asp?PID=963

Albert Wong · March 19th, 2005, 03:09 PM

OK -- so I am trying to outfit my system appropriately so that I can edit video.

The system that I have now is this:
Dell dimension 4700
p4 3.0 gigahertz
512 MB
40 GB Seagate barracuda sata drive (came with computer)

anyhow, I want to add a hard drive. But I have no idea which drive to get -- what is compatible, what is not, etc. A lot of the cheaper drive seem to be ATA -- rather than SATA.

Is there a reason for that?

Anyhow, I do know that there is a spare slot for an extra hard drive inside the case of the Dell 4700.

I installed the the DVD burner on my own, and could probably figure out how to put the hard drive in -- as long as it is going to work !

What do you recommend?

Should I just pay more money and get an external drive? I am also going to want to upgrade memory at some point -- although I am trying to get by without doing so for as long as I can.

Thanks, everyone!

Glenn Gipson · March 19th, 2005, 04:50 PM

Is there a way to take two seperate video tracks (tracks that weren't simply split apart) and splice them together into one track? Thanks.

Glenn Chan · March 19th, 2005, 05:05 PM

It's not a big deal whether you get ("traditional"/old-style) ATA or SATA drives, although they install differently.

How to install the drive:
Have you checked Dell's website for instructions? Apple for example has really good documentation on how to add upgrades. Hopefully Dell is like that.

Otherwise, if you buy a retail (and not OEM) version of a drive it will have good instructions. Or, there are instructions on the internet.

You shouldn't experience much difficulty installing the drive. Dell cases are well-designed so the physical part ain't that hard (opening the case may be the hardest part). On the drives, you have to check the jumper settings. Take a look at the jumper setting on the seagate before you install the other drive.

There's a ~127GB size limitation if you are running winXP or earlier without service pack 1. Your computer likely has XP service pack 2 so you're covered.

Make sure to format the drive NTFS after you install it.

Since you installed your DVD burner yourself already, get an ATA hard drive and it should be very similar.

2- Buy a drive off a vendor like newegg.com, or check hot deals sites as deals on hard drives are very common. In the US there are some really good deals on hard drives, although they can be a real hassle with rebates.

I would not get an external drive as they are slower, more prone to issues/not workingness, and more expensive.

David Rocchio · March 19th, 2005, 05:36 PM

you could render them to a new track, they will then be one clip, or you could group them, they will move together but fx will be seperate

Bob Benkosky · March 19th, 2005, 05:52 PM

Yea, so far I took a scene, edited it together, then went into AE and then put it back into Vegas for final output along with letterboxing it. Seems to be working out pretty well actually.

Albert Wong · March 19th, 2005, 08:22 PM

Thanks for the suggestion on checking the Dell web site. That was exactly what I needed. :-)

By the way, from reading that web site, I learned that the dimension 4700 has room for only 2 IDE drives (which are both being taken up by my DVD burner and my CD-Rom) and so I will need to get a SATA Drive -- believe it or not. That was a close call -- so thank you for your help!

All the best,
Albert

Edward Troxel · March 19th, 2005, 08:59 PM

Just drag them back to back on the one track. You really don't need them to be "one" event. If you want them to move together, just group them (select them both and press "G"). However, if you INSIST on them being a single event, just render to a new single event and put that on the timeline instead.

Albert Rodgers · March 19th, 2005, 09:36 PM

I have three questions:

1. I complete a 1 1/2 hour concert and began developing the DVD interface in DVDA. After extensive work on the DVD interface, I notice a mistake in the middle of the video and I need to make changes to the credits. Is there anyway I could have revised these mistakes without render the entire project over in Vegas?

2. After I revised the project and save the Mpeg clip under a different name, how can I replace the original video footage with the revised?

3. If I didn't set=up the project for surround sound, is there any other advantages of render the audio file as an AC3? (Instead of just rendering them together)

BTW When I created the original MPEG clip I saved the markers, so When I went to revise the video I placed this as the top track and lined it up with the original markers in Vegas. Also, I created region so that I remember exactly where I started/stopped.

Please help> The original and revised are the same length and use the same markers (at the same position). I want to be able to keep the same interface (including set thumbnails) but replace the original Mpeg with the Revised.

Thank you!

Edward Troxel · March 19th, 2005, 09:41 PM

Rename the original file. When you open the project, it will ask where it is. Point it to the new file. That should be all you need to do.

Glenn Chan · March 19th, 2005, 09:56 PM

I think your computer does take another ATA drive.

It almost certainly has 2 IDE controllers/channels (that goes hand in hand with 2 IDE ribbons). On each ribbon, you can have 2 devices. Your system should have room for a total of 4 devices- *2* hard drives, a CD-ROM, burner.

It should also physically have room for those four devices.

March 19th, 2005, 04:10 AM	#976
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Personally I would use a dedicated burning program like Nero. Just export to WAV/PCM and load, start nero and create an audio CD and point it to the WAV/PCM files. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

March 19th, 2005, 06:42 AM	#977
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Usually you edit first, and then work on effects etc. So you can do the edit in Vegas, output to whatever format you want to work with and load that into AE etc. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

March 19th, 2005, 06:49 AM	#978
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	If you're going to use a dedicated program - how about CD Architect. Exactly what it was designed to do (and now comes FREE with the Sound Forge 8 purchase). __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

March 19th, 2005, 06:50 AM	#979
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	I didn't even know that existed. Thanks for the heads up Edward! I'll do some reading on the product. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

March 19th, 2005, 07:19 AM	#980
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	The version included with SF8 is version number 5.2. It's been around for many years. Full details can be found at http://mediasoftware.sonypictures.co...ct.asp?PID=963 __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

March 19th, 2005, 03:09 PM	#981
Albert Wong Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 34	Help on adding a hard drive -- what do you recommend OK -- so I am trying to outfit my system appropriately so that I can edit video. The system that I have now is this: Dell dimension 4700 p4 3.0 gigahertz 512 MB 40 GB Seagate barracuda sata drive (came with computer) anyhow, I want to add a hard drive. But I have no idea which drive to get -- what is compatible, what is not, etc. A lot of the cheaper drive seem to be ATA -- rather than SATA. Is there a reason for that? Anyhow, I do know that there is a spare slot for an extra hard drive inside the case of the Dell 4700. I installed the the DVD burner on my own, and could probably figure out how to put the hard drive in -- as long as it is going to work ! What do you recommend? Should I just pay more money and get an external drive? I am also going to want to upgrade memory at some point -- although I am trying to get by without doing so for as long as I can. Thanks, everyone! __________________ ------------------------------------ Albert Wong http://www.allwong.com Los Angeles, California

March 19th, 2005, 04:50 PM	#982
Glenn Gipson Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Plainfield, New Jersey Posts: 927	Splicing two seperate tracks together? Is there a way to take two seperate video tracks (tracks that weren't simply split apart) and splice them together into one track? Thanks.

March 19th, 2005, 05:05 PM	#983
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	It's not a big deal whether you get ("traditional"/old-style) ATA or SATA drives, although they install differently. How to install the drive: Have you checked Dell's website for instructions? Apple for example has really good documentation on how to add upgrades. Hopefully Dell is like that. Otherwise, if you buy a retail (and not OEM) version of a drive it will have good instructions. Or, there are instructions on the internet. You shouldn't experience much difficulty installing the drive. Dell cases are well-designed so the physical part ain't that hard (opening the case may be the hardest part). On the drives, you have to check the jumper settings. Take a look at the jumper setting on the seagate before you install the other drive. There's a ~127GB size limitation if you are running winXP or earlier without service pack 1. Your computer likely has XP service pack 2 so you're covered. Make sure to format the drive NTFS after you install it. Since you installed your DVD burner yourself already, get an ATA hard drive and it should be very similar. 2- Buy a drive off a vendor like newegg.com, or check hot deals sites as deals on hard drives are very common. In the US there are some really good deals on hard drives, although they can be a real hassle with rebates. I would not get an external drive as they are slower, more prone to issues/not workingness, and more expensive.

March 19th, 2005, 05:36 PM	#984
David Rocchio New Boot Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: charlotte nc Posts: 5	you could render them to a new track, they will then be one clip, or you could group them, they will move together but fx will be seperate

March 19th, 2005, 05:52 PM	#985
Bob Benkosky Major Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lake Park, Florida Posts: 202	Yea, so far I took a scene, edited it together, then went into AE and then put it back into Vegas for final output along with letterboxing it. Seems to be working out pretty well actually. __________________ http://www.veoh.com/channels/filmmaker My clips and films.

March 19th, 2005, 08:22 PM	#986
Albert Wong Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 34	Thanks for the suggestion on checking the Dell web site. That was exactly what I needed. :-) By the way, from reading that web site, I learned that the dimension 4700 has room for only 2 IDE drives (which are both being taken up by my DVD burner and my CD-Rom) and so I will need to get a SATA Drive -- believe it or not. That was a close call -- so thank you for your help! All the best, Albert __________________ ------------------------------------ Albert Wong http://www.allwong.com Los Angeles, California

March 19th, 2005, 08:59 PM	#987
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Just drag them back to back on the one track. You really don't need them to be "one" event. If you want them to move together, just group them (select them both and press "G"). However, if you INSIST on them being a single event, just render to a new single event and put that on the timeline instead. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

March 19th, 2005, 09:36 PM	#988
Albert Rodgers Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ypsilanti, MI Posts: 87	Replacing Media in DVDA I have three questions: 1. I complete a 1 1/2 hour concert and began developing the DVD interface in DVDA. After extensive work on the DVD interface, I notice a mistake in the middle of the video and I need to make changes to the credits. Is there anyway I could have revised these mistakes without render the entire project over in Vegas? 2. After I revised the project and save the Mpeg clip under a different name, how can I replace the original video footage with the revised? 3. If I didn't set=up the project for surround sound, is there any other advantages of render the audio file as an AC3? (Instead of just rendering them together) BTW When I created the original MPEG clip I saved the markers, so When I went to revise the video I placed this as the top track and lined it up with the original markers in Vegas. Also, I created region so that I remember exactly where I started/stopped. Please help> The original and revised are the same length and use the same markers (at the same position). I want to be able to keep the same interface (including set thumbnails) but replace the original Mpeg with the Revised. Thank you! __________________ Jack-of-all-trades trying to master one (Videography) www.sdfvideo.com

March 19th, 2005, 09:41 PM	#989
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Rename the original file. When you open the project, it will ask where it is. Point it to the new file. That should be all you need to do. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

March 19th, 2005, 09:56 PM	#990
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	I think your computer does take another ATA drive. It almost certainly has 2 IDE controllers/channels (that goes hand in hand with 2 IDE ribbons). On each ribbon, you can have 2 devices. Your system should have room for a total of 4 devices- 2 hard drives, a CD-ROM, burner. It should also physically have room for those four devices.