Vegas Video discussions from 2005 (Q1Q2)

Mitch Buss · February 16th, 2005, 11:18 AM

I have bought many songs from the iTunes music store but when I want to use them for little video projects, it does not allow me to use them. Is there any way around this? Thanks.

MITCH

Bobby Abernathy · February 16th, 2005, 11:41 AM

Just a cheapy Dell mouse. Two buttons and a wheel. Nothing fancy.

Jeff Toogood · February 16th, 2005, 12:42 PM

My friend had the exact same thing happen in Vegas. Can't recall exactly, but I think it had something to do with his video card settings.
Something about slowing mouse acceleration or lowering to 50% during games or video acceleration? and for some reason his mouse thought Vegas was a game application.

Bobby Abernathy · February 16th, 2005, 01:12 PM

Jeff, you're the man, didn't even think about looking there (doh!). Under mouse properties in the control panel, there is a box checked for "Disable Acceleration in Games." Unchecking this did the trick. Thanks!

Allen Nash · February 16th, 2005, 01:28 PM

i'm just looking for clarification: there's no way to do this in Vegas right? no workaround, plug-in, script, etc.? I know that video editors don't cut to samples traditionally, but i figured that it might be implemented somehow in a video editor built by a sound company.

I don't really see why this feature hasn't made it into NLE's by now. what do you guys think?

Edward Troxel · February 16th, 2005, 01:34 PM

Ah yes... I remember that now too. Because Vegas uses the DirectX components, some apps think it's a game. Glad you found the solution.

Edward Troxel · February 16th, 2005, 01:37 PM

Yes, Vegas can work with audio down to the Sample. You'll need to turn off "Quantize to frames" to get to the subframe level.

Allen Nash · February 16th, 2005, 01:45 PM

that's sweet. AVID doesn't even do that, right?

thanks!!

oh yeah and now that i can do that, what's the point of mixing with a seperate program (I was using adobe audition). actually i can think of a few reasons but am curious what others think.

Edward Troxel · February 16th, 2005, 02:00 PM

There ARE a few reasons to use dedicated audio programs. For one example, the Sound Forge Normalize is much more powerful than the Vegas Normalize. However, Vegas can handle a LOT all on it's own.

Step back in time and you'll see that Vegas 1.0 was a Multi-Track audio editing program. Vegas 2.0 added Video components!

Allen Nash · February 16th, 2005, 02:08 PM

is this possible? I think i remember a thread about this before, but can't find it, sorry.

If a method doesnt exist I guess i could just apply a speed, render the clip (making the speed change permanent), import it and then apply a new speed.. but does a quicker way exist?

.thanks

Shannon Rawls · February 16th, 2005, 02:14 PM

Not to start a war or anything, but everywhere I turn, I see reasons why I am glad I am a "PC Guy" and not a "MAC Guy".

btw, I own a G3 iMac DV 400 with OSX and FCP3.

But Vegas....nothing can touch it in my opinon.

My wife just bought a 40GB iPod (cause it was cute and her friends have one). I like it too. However, I told her "Don't you dare put that iTunes stuff on your Vaio baby! Figure out a way to sync it with your windows media player that you are used to." Low and behold, she found a plug in to make it work. So sorry, I can't help you with iTunes. Had you been on Windows Media Player, you wouldn't be having this issue. *smile*

- ShannonRawls.com

Edward Troxel · February 16th, 2005, 02:25 PM

Two options:

1) Render it out, add it back to the timeline again, and speed it up again.

2) Use Time Bandit - part of the Veggie Toolkit.

John C. Chu · February 16th, 2005, 02:42 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Mitch Buss : I have bought many songs from the iTunes music store but when I want to use them for little video projects, it does not allow me to use them. Is there any way around this? Thanks.

MITCH -->>>

A quick and dirty way is burn the song on CD and then reimport the song back in.

Shannon Rawls · February 16th, 2005, 03:19 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by John C. Chu :
A quick and dirty way is burn the song on CD and then reimport the song back in. -->>>

Good idea John. And not that dirty actually. it still maintains a very high bitrate and quality.

Problem solved.

- Shannon W. Rawls

Brian Mitchell Warshawsky · February 16th, 2005, 04:12 PM

Sorry Chris, if this is in the wrong forum....

Instead of shooting in CF25, wouldn't a better option be to shoot interlaced, and run a 24fps conversion in Vegas?

For HDV, after capturing with the Cineform codec, run either Edward's 24fps script or Ultimate S/Celluloid, and won't the output be of a higher quality that the CF25?

Or is the issue one of interlace artifacts?

In the alternative, why would CF25 be better than Sony's CF24 mode?

Brian

February 16th, 2005, 11:18 AM	#586
Mitch Buss Regular Crew Join Date: May 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 184	Using iTunes Songs I have bought many songs from the iTunes music store but when I want to use them for little video projects, it does not allow me to use them. Is there any way around this? Thanks. MITCH

February 16th, 2005, 12:42 PM	#588
Jeff Toogood Major Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: St.Thomas, Ontario, CANADA Posts: 428	My friend had the exact same thing happen in Vegas. Can't recall exactly, but I think it had something to do with his video card settings. Something about slowing mouse acceleration or lowering to 50% during games or video acceleration? and for some reason his mouse thought Vegas was a game application. __________________ Toogood Studios

February 16th, 2005, 01:28 PM	#590
Allen Nash Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: S.F., California Posts: 61	cutting audio by sample i'm just looking for clarification: there's no way to do this in Vegas right? no workaround, plug-in, script, etc.? I know that video editors don't cut to samples traditionally, but i figured that it might be implemented somehow in a video editor built by a sound company. I don't really see why this feature hasn't made it into NLE's by now. what do you guys think?

February 16th, 2005, 01:34 PM	#591
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Ah yes... I remember that now too. Because Vegas uses the DirectX components, some apps think it's a game. Glad you found the solution. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

February 16th, 2005, 01:37 PM	#592
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Yes, Vegas can work with audio down to the Sample. You'll need to turn off "Quantize to frames" to get to the subframe level. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

February 16th, 2005, 11:41 AM	#587
Bobby Abernathy Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Aubrey, TX Posts: 80	Just a cheapy Dell mouse. Two buttons and a wheel. Nothing fancy.

February 16th, 2005, 01:12 PM	#589
Bobby Abernathy Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Aubrey, TX Posts: 80	Jeff, you're the man, didn't even think about looking there (doh!). Under mouse properties in the control panel, there is a box checked for "Disable Acceleration in Games." Unchecking this did the trick. Thanks!

February 16th, 2005, 01:45 PM	#593
Allen Nash Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: S.F., California Posts: 61	that's sweet. AVID doesn't even do that, right? thanks!! oh yeah and now that i can do that, what's the point of mixing with a seperate program (I was using adobe audition). actually i can think of a few reasons but am curious what others think.

February 16th, 2005, 02:00 PM	#594
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	There ARE a few reasons to use dedicated audio programs. For one example, the Sound Forge Normalize is much more powerful than the Vegas Normalize. However, Vegas can handle a LOT all on it's own. Step back in time and you'll see that Vegas 1.0 was a Multi-Track audio editing program. Vegas 2.0 added Video components! __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

February 16th, 2005, 02:08 PM	#595
Allen Nash Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: S.F., California Posts: 61	clip speed higher than 1200% ? is this possible? I think i remember a thread about this before, but can't find it, sorry. If a method doesnt exist I guess i could just apply a speed, render the clip (making the speed change permanent), import it and then apply a new speed.. but does a quicker way exist? .thanks

February 16th, 2005, 02:14 PM	#596
Shannon Rawls Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 853	Not to start a war or anything, but everywhere I turn, I see reasons why I am glad I am a "PC Guy" and not a "MAC Guy". btw, I own a G3 iMac DV 400 with OSX and FCP3. But Vegas....nothing can touch it in my opinon. My wife just bought a 40GB iPod (cause it was cute and her friends have one). I like it too. However, I told her "Don't you dare put that iTunes stuff on your Vaio baby! Figure out a way to sync it with your windows media player that you are used to." Low and behold, she found a plug in to make it work. So sorry, I can't help you with iTunes. Had you been on Windows Media Player, you wouldn't be having this issue. smile - ShannonRawls.com

February 16th, 2005, 02:25 PM	#597
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Two options: 1) Render it out, add it back to the timeline again, and speed it up again. 2) Use Time Bandit - part of the Veggie Toolkit. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

February 16th, 2005, 02:42 PM	#598
John C. Chu Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Rego Park , NYC Posts: 665	Re: Using iTunes Songs <<<-- Originally posted by Mitch Buss : I have bought many songs from the iTunes music store but when I want to use them for little video projects, it does not allow me to use them. Is there any way around this? Thanks. MITCH -->>> A quick and dirty way is burn the song on CD and then reimport the song back in.

February 16th, 2005, 03:19 PM	#599
Shannon Rawls Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 853	Re: Re: Using iTunes Songs <<<-- Originally posted by John C. Chu : A quick and dirty way is burn the song on CD and then reimport the song back in. -->>> Good idea John. And not that dirty actually. it still maintains a very high bitrate and quality. Problem solved. - Shannon W. Rawls

February 16th, 2005, 04:12 PM	#600
Brian Mitchell Warshawsky Major Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bay Area Posts: 216	Re: CF25 in HDV mode Sorry Chris, if this is in the wrong forum.... Instead of shooting in CF25, wouldn't a better option be to shoot interlaced, and run a 24fps conversion in Vegas? For HDV, after capturing with the Cineform codec, run either Edward's 24fps script or Ultimate S/Celluloid, and won't the output be of a higher quality that the CF25? Or is the issue one of interlace artifacts? In the alternative, why would CF25 be better than Sony's CF24 mode? Brian