Vegas Video discussions from 2005 (Q1Q2)

Kyle Ringin · January 23rd, 2005, 11:11 PM

Wow, sorry for the late reply! I didn't see your reply.
I guess you've figured it out by now, but in case someone else is wondering:

Short answer - yes you are right. If you play the anamorphic 16:9 through any device that is not '16:9 aware', it will look squashed horizontally. Some newer 4:3 TVs have a 16:9 squeeze mode that will letterbox it correctly.

Doing it the other way around isn't usually such a problem. If you play the 4:3 LB video on a widescreen TV in 4:3 mode the screen will letterbox on all 4 sides (not a good look), but pretty much all widescreen TVs have a zoom mode that will play the video fullscreen (albeit not with the resolution the anamorphic would have been.

I believe the best output medium (for me) is DVD. I can shoot anamorphic, make an anamorphic DVD, then play it on my widescreen at full resolution, but if someone plays it on a 4:3 TV, the DVD player will letterbox it correctly (provided they have their DVD player setup correctly).

Rob Lohman · January 24th, 2005, 03:37 AM

See the sticky thread in this forum for links to all sort of Vegas
extensions etc.

At this point in time there are no plans for a new season of Lady X,
mainly due to time restrictions on our parts. But who knows what
will happen this year, we haven't abandoned it or anything.

Rob Lohman · January 24th, 2005, 03:49 AM

You can also look at this in the positive light: the more exposure
of your work the more change you'll get seen and people might
purchase your services, wether for wedding work or fictional work,
that's what I think. However, you shouldn't encourage it or let it
slide if you find out someone is making large amount of copies
(especially if they are being sold).

If you are offering a product I can imagine you are offering copies
as well? So there is a base price for the manufacturing of the
product and then a price for additional copies (which should cover
the disc costs, nice case and your time etc.) that seems reasonable
(I would try to make my profit with the product in general, not
the copies) so they are not too easily thinking about doing the
copying on their own.

Perhaps a value added service (if you are doing a wedding) is to
send these discs out to everyone as well? (ofcourse you should
be compensated for this and only after the couple has seen the
footage and OK-ed the distribution) In this way they don't have
to bother with this themselves and have more time to enjoy
eachother <g>

Rob Lohman · January 24th, 2005, 04:22 AM

I'll see if I can run some tests, time is very short at the moment
though. Please post in the following thread for your notification
problem:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...threadid=36726

Rob Lohman · January 24th, 2005, 04:59 AM

I think some people are using it (with WAX as well). Why do you
want to know?

Graham Bernard · January 24th, 2005, 05:46 AM

I've got it, but can't make it work - most likley me.

I'm listenning to this thread .. oh yes .. .

Grazie

Mark McCarthy · January 24th, 2005, 07:02 AM

Hello all.
Does anyone know how I can attach a Beta SP player to my PC, so I bring footage straight into Vegas.

At the moment I am attachnig my camera to the Beta deck and transferring it to DV, and then firewiring it in from the camera.

This takes extra time and probably a loss of quality.

thanks
Mark

Edward Troxel · January 24th, 2005, 08:30 AM

Assuming the camera allows pass-thru, you can skip the recording to tape step. Just hook up the unit to the camera, hook the camera up to the computer, and capture straight to the hard drive through the camera skipping the tape. You need to turn OFF device control for this to work.

Mark McCarthy · January 24th, 2005, 08:47 AM

Hi Edward
I'll try that thanks. I haven't tried turning off the device control option.
Thanks for the swift reply!
regards
Mark

Hugh DiMauro · January 24th, 2005, 08:48 AM

I am running a dual monitor, 3 ghz P4 with 2056 meg of ram (PC) with every conceivable background program turned off, two 250 gig hard drives for data only and one 160 gig hard drive for programs. So, when I apply a Magic Bullet Movie Look filter on a clip, the playback slows down so much that it looks like it moves one frame per second. With all my memory and space, why is the application of one filter slowing my timeline play so drastically? Did I shut off too many background programs? Did I not shut off enough?

HALP!

Kim Kinser · January 24th, 2005, 08:58 AM

I could not get the video morph to work. It seems to be an issue that Sony needs to address.

Using standalone winmorph I can morph a still image, but to morph video it seems you need to use winmorph as a plugin.

I guess that is what wax is for?

Hugh DiMauro · January 24th, 2005, 09:06 AM

Does anybody agree or disagree with this:

http://members.macconnect.com/users/b/ben/widescreen/index.html

Edward Troxel · January 24th, 2005, 09:46 AM

It's Magic Bullet. It's a terribly slow plugin - effective but SLOW. You can achieve the same looks manually but it will take some work on your part. You might want to look at the Zenote plugins. They are MUCH faster.

Graham Bernard · January 24th, 2005, 10:10 AM

Magic Bullet? yeah right . .. Tried it once, not again until they speed up the process .. nice effects, get busy with creating your own home grown presets and name them and sue them .. lots to experiment with. Apart from anything else you will be in the fortunate business of having created your own!

Go on, get experimenting . .Vegas WONT let you down ..

G

Albert Rodgers · January 24th, 2005, 11:21 AM

Hey Guys and Gals,

I have recently captured interlaced video of a young lady doing a sign language presentation with white gloves and a black dress. When she moves her hands quickly I see a terrible blur and sometimes horizontal lines. I have experimented Interlace/Progressive Scan modes under Project and clip properties. I have also checked reduce interlace flicker. Can some one please tell me the setting that might result in the smoothiest video.
1. Should I leave the Project property set for interlacing? Should I use blend or interpolate?

2. If checking reducing interlace flicker has to be set, is there anyway to do this projectiwide?

Please help. Thank you!

January 24th, 2005, 03:37 AM	#302
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	See the sticky thread in this forum for links to all sort of Vegas extensions etc. At this point in time there are no plans for a new season of Lady X, mainly due to time restrictions on our parts. But who knows what will happen this year, we haven't abandoned it or anything. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

January 24th, 2005, 03:49 AM	#303
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	You can also look at this in the positive light: the more exposure of your work the more change you'll get seen and people might purchase your services, wether for wedding work or fictional work, that's what I think. However, you shouldn't encourage it or let it slide if you find out someone is making large amount of copies (especially if they are being sold). If you are offering a product I can imagine you are offering copies as well? So there is a base price for the manufacturing of the product and then a price for additional copies (which should cover the disc costs, nice case and your time etc.) that seems reasonable (I would try to make my profit with the product in general, not the copies) so they are not too easily thinking about doing the copying on their own. Perhaps a value added service (if you are doing a wedding) is to send these discs out to everyone as well? (ofcourse you should be compensated for this and only after the couple has seen the footage and OK-ed the distribution) In this way they don't have to bother with this themselves and have more time to enjoy eachother <g> __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

January 24th, 2005, 04:22 AM	#304
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	I'll see if I can run some tests, time is very short at the moment though. Please post in the following thread for your notification problem: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...threadid=36726 __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

January 24th, 2005, 04:59 AM	#305
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	I think some people are using it (with WAX as well). Why do you want to know? __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

January 24th, 2005, 07:02 AM	#307
Mark McCarthy Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Westcliff-On-Sea, Essex, England Posts: 154	Attaching a beta sp player for Vegas.. Hello all. Does anyone know how I can attach a Beta SP player to my PC, so I bring footage straight into Vegas. At the moment I am attachnig my camera to the Beta deck and transferring it to DV, and then firewiring it in from the camera. This takes extra time and probably a loss of quality. thanks Mark

January 23rd, 2005, 11:11 PM	#301
Kyle Ringin Major Player Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 241	Wow, sorry for the late reply! I didn't see your reply. I guess you've figured it out by now, but in case someone else is wondering: Short answer - yes you are right. If you play the anamorphic 16:9 through any device that is not '16:9 aware', it will look squashed horizontally. Some newer 4:3 TVs have a 16:9 squeeze mode that will letterbox it correctly. Doing it the other way around isn't usually such a problem. If you play the 4:3 LB video on a widescreen TV in 4:3 mode the screen will letterbox on all 4 sides (not a good look), but pretty much all widescreen TVs have a zoom mode that will play the video fullscreen (albeit not with the resolution the anamorphic would have been. I believe the best output medium (for me) is DVD. I can shoot anamorphic, make an anamorphic DVD, then play it on my widescreen at full resolution, but if someone plays it on a 4:3 TV, the DVD player will letterbox it correctly (provided they have their DVD player setup correctly).

January 24th, 2005, 05:46 AM	#306
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	I've got it, but can't make it work - most likley me. I'm listenning to this thread .. oh yes .. . Grazie

January 24th, 2005, 08:30 AM	#308
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Assuming the camera allows pass-thru, you can skip the recording to tape step. Just hook up the unit to the camera, hook the camera up to the computer, and capture straight to the hard drive through the camera skipping the tape. You need to turn OFF device control for this to work. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

January 24th, 2005, 08:47 AM	#309
Mark McCarthy Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Westcliff-On-Sea, Essex, England Posts: 154	Hi Edward I'll try that thanks. I haven't tried turning off the device control option. Thanks for the swift reply! regards Mark

January 24th, 2005, 08:48 AM	#310
Hugh DiMauro Trustee Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,207	Slow Timeline Play I am running a dual monitor, 3 ghz P4 with 2056 meg of ram (PC) with every conceivable background program turned off, two 250 gig hard drives for data only and one 160 gig hard drive for programs. So, when I apply a Magic Bullet Movie Look filter on a clip, the playback slows down so much that it looks like it moves one frame per second. With all my memory and space, why is the application of one filter slowing my timeline play so drastically? Did I shut off too many background programs? Did I not shut off enough? HALP! __________________ Interesting, if true. And interesting anyway.

January 24th, 2005, 08:58 AM	#311
Kim Kinser Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Voorhees, NJ Posts: 82	I could not get the video morph to work. It seems to be an issue that Sony needs to address. Using standalone winmorph I can morph a still image, but to morph video it seems you need to use winmorph as a plugin. I guess that is what wax is for?

January 24th, 2005, 09:06 AM	#312
Hugh DiMauro Trustee Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,207	In Camera 16 X 9 Better than 4 X 3? Does anybody agree or disagree with this: http://members.macconnect.com/users/b/ben/widescreen/index.html __________________ Interesting, if true. And interesting anyway.

January 24th, 2005, 09:46 AM	#313
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	It's Magic Bullet. It's a terribly slow plugin - effective but SLOW. You can achieve the same looks manually but it will take some work on your part. You might want to look at the Zenote plugins. They are MUCH faster. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

January 24th, 2005, 10:10 AM	#314
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	Magic Bullet? yeah right . .. Tried it once, not again until they speed up the process .. nice effects, get busy with creating your own home grown presets and name them and sue them .. lots to experiment with. Apart from anything else you will be in the fortunate business of having created your own! Go on, get experimenting . .Vegas WONT let you down .. G

January 24th, 2005, 11:21 AM	#315
Albert Rodgers Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ypsilanti, MI Posts: 87	Deinterlace/Progressive Scan/Reduce Flicker? Hey Guys and Gals, I have recently captured interlaced video of a young lady doing a sign language presentation with white gloves and a black dress. When she moves her hands quickly I see a terrible blur and sometimes horizontal lines. I have experimented Interlace/Progressive Scan modes under Project and clip properties. I have also checked reduce interlace flicker. Can some one please tell me the setting that might result in the smoothiest video. 1. Should I leave the Project property set for interlacing? Should I use blend or interpolate? 2. If checking reducing interlace flicker has to be set, is there anyway to do this projectiwide? Please help. Thank you! __________________ Jack-of-all-trades trying to master one (Videography) www.sdfvideo.com