Batch Render using different templates? at DVinfo.net

Kevin Janisch · July 15th, 2009, 07:23 PM

Hi guys,

Is there a way to batch render 4 different segments using 4 different templates utilizing the batch render script? I have 4 segments that all vary in duration. I need to render them out with different bitrates to maximize quality for DVD. Thank you.

Kevin

Edward Troxel · July 15th, 2009, 08:01 PM

The built-in batch render script really is NOT designed for different preset for different regions. It will do the SAME preset for all regions very easily, though.

One thing you might try... Open Vegas 4 times and then manually render each regions - one region per instance of Vegas. Then it will do them all at the same time.

Kevin Janisch · July 16th, 2009, 12:47 PM

Thanks Ed. I hope Sony adds a "feature" to allow this.

Seth Bloombaum · July 16th, 2009, 01:35 PM

Wet blanket here...

There are encoding products that allow you to create multiple batches with different encoding specs, such as Sorenson Squeeze, Grass Valley Procoder, Apple Compressor, etc., then give you tools for management of multiple encodes that occur sequentially.

However, all of them (short of frameserving?) require files (not timeline regions) to transcode. I think you're asking to layer that sort of workflow transcoding functionality ("Job" management tools) on an NLE.

Frankly, I'd love it. I do that kind of stuff. Doubt any NLE manufacturers see it that way, although FCP and Compressor kind of link up in a frameserving way. I don't *think* it can work by region with FCP/Comp...

Mike Kujbida · July 16th, 2009, 06:18 PM

This sounds like the kind of job that MultiRender (a part of Veggie Toolkit) is supposed to be good at.
A demo version is available.

Edward Troxel · July 16th, 2009, 06:24 PM

Yes, as Mike said, your best bet today is to look at the Veggie Toolkit. It has the best chance of doing exactly what you're wanting. But I don't know if it will handle multiple regions differently. You could ask Randall Campbell (the author of Veggie Toolkit).

Kevin Janisch · July 17th, 2009, 11:38 AM

Thanks guys. I think if there is enough demand for such a feature, Sony shouldn't have too much technical trouble adding this functionality. That's just the power of Vegas, 1 tool to do it all. I've worked with Adobe Premiere and After Effects solely for 10 years. After 6 months with Vegas, it is my tool of choice and I know Premiere inside and out; Vegas, just the tip of the iceberg at this point. The ease and stability of Vegas was enough to get me interested, the workflow in a single application for 80% of my projects kept me.

Kevin

Mike Kujbida · July 17th, 2009, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Janisch

Thanks guys. I think if there is enough demand for such a feature, Sony shouldn't have too much technical trouble adding this functionality.

You'd think so but, in my experience, Sony doesn't work that way.
I've seen folks make several requests for features that would greatly improve the workflow and Sony is very slow at implementing any of them :-(
You can drop them a line on the Product Suggestion page but don't hold your breath waiting.

July 15th, 2009, 07:23 PM	#1
Kevin Janisch Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Monterey, CA Posts: 406	Batch Render using different templates? Hi guys, Is there a way to batch render 4 different segments using 4 different templates utilizing the batch render script? I have 4 segments that all vary in duration. I need to render them out with different bitrates to maximize quality for DVD. Thank you. Kevin

July 15th, 2009, 08:01 PM	#2
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	The built-in batch render script really is NOT designed for different preset for different regions. It will do the SAME preset for all regions very easily, though. One thing you might try... Open Vegas 4 times and then manually render each regions - one region per instance of Vegas. Then it will do them all at the same time. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

July 16th, 2009, 01:35 PM	#4
Seth Bloombaum Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,420	Wet blanket here... There are encoding products that allow you to create multiple batches with different encoding specs, such as Sorenson Squeeze, Grass Valley Procoder, Apple Compressor, etc., then give you tools for management of multiple encodes that occur sequentially. However, all of them (short of frameserving?) require files (not timeline regions) to transcode. I think you're asking to layer that sort of workflow transcoding functionality ("Job" management tools) on an NLE. Frankly, I'd love it. I do that kind of stuff. Doubt any NLE manufacturers see it that way, although FCP and Compressor kind of link up in a frameserving way. I don't think it can work by region with FCP/Comp... __________________ 30 years of pro media production. Vegas user since 1.0. Webcaster since 1997. Freelancer since 2000. College instructor since 2001.

July 16th, 2009, 06:24 PM	#6
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Yes, as Mike said, your best bet today is to look at the Veggie Toolkit. It has the best chance of doing exactly what you're wanting. But I don't know if it will handle multiple regions differently. You could ask Randall Campbell (the author of Veggie Toolkit). __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

July 16th, 2009, 12:47 PM	#3
Kevin Janisch Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Monterey, CA Posts: 406	Thanks Ed. I hope Sony adds a "feature" to allow this.

July 16th, 2009, 06:18 PM	#5
Mike Kujbida Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Windsor, ON Canada Posts: 2,770	This sounds like the kind of job that MultiRender (a part of Veggie Toolkit) is supposed to be good at. A demo version is available.

July 17th, 2009, 11:38 AM	#7
Kevin Janisch Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Monterey, CA Posts: 406	Thanks guys. I think if there is enough demand for such a feature, Sony shouldn't have too much technical trouble adding this functionality. That's just the power of Vegas, 1 tool to do it all. I've worked with Adobe Premiere and After Effects solely for 10 years. After 6 months with Vegas, it is my tool of choice and I know Premiere inside and out; Vegas, just the tip of the iceberg at this point. The ease and stability of Vegas was enough to get me interested, the workflow in a single application for 80% of my projects kept me. Kevin