Vegas 9 and Windows 7

Jeff Harper · June 30th, 2009, 07:20 AM

There is another thing one should consider before purchase:

If you are upgrading your PC or mobo after you purchase Windows 7 you will have to buy a new copy/serial # because your original version of Windows 7 will not activate on a different PC.

This happened to me after upgrading my PC. There is a workaround that I found but it is incovenient.

Bob Thieda · June 30th, 2009, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Harper

There is another thing one should consider before purchase:

If you are upgrading your PC or mobo after you purchase Windows 7 you will have to buy a new copy/serial # because your original version of Windows 7 will not activate on a different PC.

This happened to me after upgrading my PC. There is a workaround that I found but it is incovenient.

Jeff, do you have a link to this? Generally this happens only with OEM versions of Windows, the ones that come pre-installed, not off the shelf consumer versions.

I have an OEM version of Vista that is tied to the motherboard and is a hassle to move to an upgraded PC, but a consumer packaged Vista disk can be moved to a new machine easily.

Jeff Harper · June 30th, 2009, 08:39 AM

I don't have a link, my statement is based on my experience.

For example, I reinstall Windows on a regular basis, at least every 60 to 90 days just to clean up my hard drive.

Normally this is no problem, with the same PC.

But when I've switched to a raid or non-raid configuration I cannot acitivate without calling microsoft, because they keep records of this that are accessed when you activate.

On the other hand, if you change motherboards they will not allow you to activate and they tell you to buy a new key. As far as they are concerned if you have a new MOBO then you have a new PC., and they will not activate Windows on two pcs.

There is the workaround I've been using that allows extending time till activation, but I keep getting reminders to activate. That's why I'm loving Windows 7 RC, I'm not getting reminders any more!

Bob Thieda · June 30th, 2009, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Harper

I don't have a link, my statement is based on my experience.

For example, I reinstall Windows on a regular basis, at least every 60 to 90 days just to clean up my hard drive.

Normally this is no problem, with the same PC.

But when I've switched to a raid or non-raid configuration I cannot acitivate without calling microsoft, because they keep records of this that are accessed when you activate.

On the other hand, if you change motherboards they will not allow you to activate and they tell you to buy a new key. As far as they are concerned if you have a new MOBO then you have a new PC., and they will not activate Windows on two pcs.

There is the workaround I've been using that allows extending time till activation, but I keep getting reminders to activate. That's why I'm loving Windows 7 RC, I'm not getting reminders any more!

But that was with an OEM install, correct? It came on the PC? Not a consumer disk you bought at the store...

BTW...I never reinstall a system unless tragedy strikes, (or the kids use it). If you keep it clean and tidy they work forever. My XP machine is on the original install from two years ago and I have a 4 year old laptop that has never been formated.

Jeff Harper · June 30th, 2009, 09:39 AM

Retail version. OEM versions don't need activation, they either work or they don't.

Bob Thieda · June 30th, 2009, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Harper

Retail version. OEM versions don't need activation, they either work or they don't.

Interesting...I'll have to look into that. Hopefully, it is once again, a Vista only issue.

I do activate OEM versions, but only because I build my own machines and buy OEM versions...

Jeff Harper · June 30th, 2009, 10:58 AM

You're talking OEM versions that you purchase separately, I had thought you meant oem that came with machine, which don't need activated, I misunderstood.

I've had/used/all three types. I vaguely remember same issue with XP OEM disc I bought, but Microsoft was more lenient with XP as I recall. I highly doubt they will backpeddle on this with Windows 7, but who knows.

David Wayne Groves · June 30th, 2009, 06:42 PM

Upgrade versions of Vista Do not require a previous version of a OS in order to do a clean install, the workaround has been available since day one, my Vista Ultimate upgrade version has been reinstalled several times on my new Hds and system builds....
As for Windows 7, no info for current ultimate owners, I will probably be skipping 7 for now, most of the new features in 7 will be available as free downloads for Vista owners, such as DX11...Sony Vegas 8 and now 9 has been trouble free for me in Vista 64Bit...

Jeff Harper · June 30th, 2009, 09:53 PM

Vista 64 bit was trouble free for me as well. But I find Windows 7 runs circles around Vista. Windows 7 IS the feature, not IE 8, etc. The rest is fluff, IMO.

The underlying code is much superior, and it shows.

June 30th, 2009, 07:20 AM	#16
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	There is another thing one should consider before purchase: If you are upgrading your PC or mobo after you purchase Windows 7 you will have to buy a new copy/serial # because your original version of Windows 7 will not activate on a different PC. This happened to me after upgrading my PC. There is a workaround that I found but it is incovenient.

June 30th, 2009, 08:39 AM	#18
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	I don't have a link, my statement is based on my experience. For example, I reinstall Windows on a regular basis, at least every 60 to 90 days just to clean up my hard drive. Normally this is no problem, with the same PC. But when I've switched to a raid or non-raid configuration I cannot acitivate without calling microsoft, because they keep records of this that are accessed when you activate. On the other hand, if you change motherboards they will not allow you to activate and they tell you to buy a new key. As far as they are concerned if you have a new MOBO then you have a new PC., and they will not activate Windows on two pcs. There is the workaround I've been using that allows extending time till activation, but I keep getting reminders to activate. That's why I'm loving Windows 7 RC, I'm not getting reminders any more!

June 30th, 2009, 09:39 AM	#20
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Retail version. OEM versions don't need activation, they either work or they don't.

June 30th, 2009, 10:58 AM	#22
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	You're talking OEM versions that you purchase separately, I had thought you meant oem that came with machine, which don't need activated, I misunderstood. I've had/used/all three types. I vaguely remember same issue with XP OEM disc I bought, but Microsoft was more lenient with XP as I recall. I highly doubt they will backpeddle on this with Windows 7, but who knows.

June 30th, 2009, 06:42 PM	#23
David Wayne Groves Regular Crew Join Date: May 2008 Location: Charleston WV Posts: 149	Upgrade versions of Vista Do not require a previous version of a OS in order to do a clean install, the workaround has been available since day one, my Vista Ultimate upgrade version has been reinstalled several times on my new Hds and system builds.... As for Windows 7, no info for current ultimate owners, I will probably be skipping 7 for now, most of the new features in 7 will be available as free downloads for Vista owners, such as DX11...Sony Vegas 8 and now 9 has been trouble free for me in Vista 64Bit...

June 30th, 2009, 09:53 PM	#24
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Vista 64 bit was trouble free for me as well. But I find Windows 7 runs circles around Vista. Windows 7 IS the feature, not IE 8, etc. The rest is fluff, IMO. The underlying code is much superior, and it shows.