Vegas, Windows 7 & Magic Bullet Looks

Sean Seah · September 23rd, 2009, 05:59 AM

Woah if MBL is 64bit its time to upgrade. 9.1 flew on my mac pro but without MBL its quite meaningless for me.

Steven Reid · September 23rd, 2009, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Sean Seah

Woah if MBL is 64bit its time to upgrade. 9.1 flew on my mac pro but without MBL its quite meaningless for me.

I don't think it's time (yet) because no 64-bit version is available on RedGiant's site. I was actually thinking of calling them to clarify whether such a version is really going to roll out...

Steve

Sean Seah · September 23rd, 2009, 06:31 AM

That would be great. I half way across the globe form them ha ha. I think I better hang on for a short while till Win7 is released to purchase my new PC.

Steven Reid · October 6th, 2009, 10:52 AM

I just spoke with RedGiant who clarified that because Sony Vegas constitutes the smallest customer base for them, no 64-bit version of MBLooks is on the horizon. The chart referenced in a post above should be updated to reflect that fact, according to the person at Red Giant.

Should FCP and Avid head in that direction, however, there may be hope of seeing a 64-bit version for Vegas, too, also according to Red Giant.

So, don't hold your breath... :(

Steve

Jim Snow · October 6th, 2009, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Steven Reid

I just spoke with RedGiant who clarified that because Sony Vegas constitutes the smallest customer base for them, no 64-bit version of MBLooks is on the horizon.

Oh well, I guess they plan on keeping it that way. 64-bit adverse software companies are one of my pet peeves. It's not like 64-bit is brand new. These days, most PC's sold are loaded with 64-bit Vista -even relatively low-end ones.

Jeff Harper · October 6th, 2009, 12:21 PM

Long ago I said as much regarding plug in availability for Vegas. As Red Giant testifies, the user base is too small for us to expect too much in this regard. Since the vast majority of professional editors that use Vegas are event-oriented, etc., (I'm guessing, no facts to back this up) it all adds up. Events editors don't need the extensive libraries of plug-ins that feature movie people need, but they would be nice anyway. I feel very fortunate that we have NewBlue.

No reason one cannot toggel between 32 bit and 64 bit versions for a while, it is not that inconvenient to do the majority of our work in 64 bit and then finish if off in 32 bit if we need a MB look. Rendering time of 64 bit Vegas is not that much faster.

IMO, not a huge price to pay for the ease and convenience of Vegas; only a minor snag. Eventually all apps will be 64 bit, of course, and this issue will be non-existent as all plug-ins will be 64 bit as well.

Steven Reid · October 6th, 2009, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Harper

Long ago I said as much regarding plug in availability for Vegas. As Red Giant testifies, the user base is too small for us to expect too much in this regard. Since the vast majority of professional editors that use Vegas are event-oriented, etc., (I'm guessing, no facts to back this up) it all adds up. Events editors don't need the extensive libraries of plug-ins that feature movie, but they would be nice anyway. I feel very fortunate that we have NewBlue.

No reason one cannot toggel between 32 bit and 64 bit versions for a while, it is not that inconvenient to do the majority of our work in 64 bit and then finish if off in 32 bit if we need a MB look. Rendering time of 64 bit Vegas is not that much faster.

IMO, not a huge price to pay for the ease and convenience of Vegas; only a minor snag. Eventually all apps will be 64 bit, of course, and this issue will be non-existent as all plug-ins will be 64 bit as well.

Jeff, I can't disagree with your good points. Relatedly, I've overhauled my workflow so that I'll lock down an edit in 8.1, do any intermediate renders in 8.1 (using CineForm), and then finish off with 32-bit plugins/FX for a final render in 8.0.

Helping me along is a nice 20% overclock I just gave my Q9550 a few nights ago (rock solid at 3.4!), giving me a little boost to render speeds while in 8.0 (and a real nice boost in 8.1 -- all cores ~100%). I tend to use MBLooks and NeatVideo quite a bit, so I figgered I'd better wring more out of my CPU. ;)

Steve

Jim Snow · October 6th, 2009, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Steven Reid

I've overhauled my workflow so that I'll lock down an edit in 8.1, do any intermediate renders in 8.1 (using CineForm), and then finish off with 32-bit plugins/FX for a final render in 8.0.

I use Cineform as well. I really like the editing work flow flexibility it allows. It is so nearly lossless that virtually no video quality is lost due to an intermediate render during a project work flow.

Federico Perale · December 10th, 2010, 10:36 AM

will Magic Bullett run on WIndows 7 64 bit and Vegas 8.0c?

Edward Troxel · December 10th, 2010, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Federico Perale

will Magic Bullett run on WIndows 7 64 bit and Vegas 8.0c?

Yes. Vegas 8.0c is 32-bit and Magic Bullet is 32-bit so they will work together and will both run on Win 7-64 bit.

October 6th, 2009, 12:21 PM	#21
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Long ago I said as much regarding plug in availability for Vegas. As Red Giant testifies, the user base is too small for us to expect too much in this regard. Since the vast majority of professional editors that use Vegas are event-oriented, etc., (I'm guessing, no facts to back this up) it all adds up. Events editors don't need the extensive libraries of plug-ins that feature movie people need, but they would be nice anyway. I feel very fortunate that we have NewBlue. No reason one cannot toggel between 32 bit and 64 bit versions for a while, it is not that inconvenient to do the majority of our work in 64 bit and then finish if off in 32 bit if we need a MB look. Rendering time of 64 bit Vegas is not that much faster. IMO, not a huge price to pay for the ease and convenience of Vegas; only a minor snag. Eventually all apps will be 64 bit, of course, and this issue will be non-existent as all plug-ins will be 64 bit as well. Last edited by Jeff Harper; October 6th, 2009 at 01:14 PM. Reason: incomplete sentence

September 23rd, 2009, 05:59 AM	#16
Sean Seah Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,498	Woah if MBL is 64bit its time to upgrade. 9.1 flew on my mac pro but without MBL its quite meaningless for me.

September 23rd, 2009, 06:31 AM	#18
Sean Seah Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,498	That would be great. I half way across the globe form them ha ha. I think I better hang on for a short while till Win7 is released to purchase my new PC.

October 6th, 2009, 10:52 AM	#19
Steven Reid Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Salem, Oregon Posts: 435	I just spoke with RedGiant who clarified that because Sony Vegas constitutes the smallest customer base for them, no 64-bit version of MBLooks is on the horizon. The chart referenced in a post above should be updated to reflect that fact, according to the person at Red Giant. Should FCP and Avid head in that direction, however, there may be hope of seeing a 64-bit version for Vegas, too, also according to Red Giant. So, don't hold your breath... :( Steve

December 10th, 2010, 10:36 AM	#24
Federico Perale Major Player Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: London Posts: 410	will Magic Bullett run on WIndows 7 64 bit and Vegas 8.0c?