Text distortion at DVinfo.net

Jeff Harper · April 20th, 2009, 06:40 AM

Two questions:

Below is a link to an image that shows how messed up my text looks in Vegas on a black background. Usually if I change fonts it works out fine, but not this time. this was rendered to .avi widescreen, and frame size of text is 1440x960.

Here's photo:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/members/j...3-capture.html

Question #2:

How do you embed/put a photo in a post? I've seen others do it, but I'm flummoxed.

Terry Esslinger · April 20th, 2009, 03:08 PM

Is this text zoomed in or did you use a large size font?
Try addding a small black outline to the text.

Jeff Harper · April 20th, 2009, 03:12 PM

That is not zoomed in, that is the actual size. I did darken the white to a light grey, and that helped. I'll try your suggestions also.

Thanks Terry.

Edward Troxel · April 20th, 2009, 05:35 PM

Also, change the text display to double resolution.

Jeff Harper · April 20th, 2009, 07:09 PM

Actually what you see is double the resolution, I have also tried it tripled, it's the same.

Matthew Amirkhani · April 20th, 2009, 07:39 PM

Hi Jeff,
I had the same exact problem, changed the properties to HDV 720-30P problem was solved.

Mike Kujbida · April 20th, 2009, 07:47 PM

Jeff, you said you changed the text to a light grey and that helped.
I make it a rule to never exceed 235-235-235 for white text (and 16-16-16 for black) and don't recall ever having this problem.
These values ensure that text says within the 16-235 luminance range.

Jeff Harper · April 21st, 2009, 07:06 AM

Well Mike, it would appear that you have validated my experience. Thanks.

Mike Kujbida · April 21st, 2009, 07:47 AM

You're welcome Jeff.
I can't remember where I read those values but it's something I stick to and, as I said, have never had problems by doing so.
BTW, I've found Great Titles with the DV Codec to be an excellent article on the subject.

Jeff Harper · April 21st, 2009, 07:51 AM

Those values seem perfect. Titles are still white but no issues now. Thanks for the link!

Ian Stark · April 22nd, 2009, 02:02 AM

Excellent article, Mike. Thank you for posting the link.

April 20th, 2009, 06:40 AM	#1
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Text distortion Two questions: Below is a link to an image that shows how messed up my text looks in Vegas on a black background. Usually if I change fonts it works out fine, but not this time. this was rendered to .avi widescreen, and frame size of text is 1440x960. Here's photo: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/members/j...3-capture.html Question #2: How do you embed/put a photo in a post? I've seen others do it, but I'm flummoxed.

April 20th, 2009, 05:35 PM	#4
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Also, change the text display to double resolution. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

April 20th, 2009, 07:39 PM	#6
Matthew Amirkhani Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 279	Hi Jeff, I had the same exact problem, changed the properties to HDV 720-30P problem was solved. __________________ Canon XHA1, Brevis 35mm, Manfrotto 028,501,Vegas Pro 10e

April 22nd, 2009, 02:02 AM	#11
Ian Stark Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,237	Excellent article, Mike. Thank you for posting the link. __________________ www.vit-media.com www.classicmachinefilms.co.uk

April 20th, 2009, 03:08 PM	#2
Terry Esslinger Major Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sacramento, Elk Grove. Calif Posts: 306	Is this text zoomed in or did you use a large size font? Try addding a small black outline to the text. __________________ Puttin the wet stuff on the red stuff!

April 20th, 2009, 03:12 PM	#3
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	That is not zoomed in, that is the actual size. I did darken the white to a light grey, and that helped. I'll try your suggestions also. Thanks Terry.

April 20th, 2009, 07:09 PM	#5
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Actually what you see is double the resolution, I have also tried it tripled, it's the same.

April 20th, 2009, 07:47 PM	#7
Mike Kujbida Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Windsor, ON Canada Posts: 2,770	Jeff, you said you changed the text to a light grey and that helped. I make it a rule to never exceed 235-235-235 for white text (and 16-16-16 for black) and don't recall ever having this problem. These values ensure that text says within the 16-235 luminance range.

April 21st, 2009, 07:06 AM	#8
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Well Mike, it would appear that you have validated my experience. Thanks.

April 21st, 2009, 07:47 AM	#9
Mike Kujbida Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Windsor, ON Canada Posts: 2,770	You're welcome Jeff. I can't remember where I read those values but it's something I stick to and, as I said, have never had problems by doing so. BTW, I've found Great Titles with the DV Codec to be an excellent article on the subject.

April 21st, 2009, 07:51 AM	#10
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Those values seem perfect. Titles are still white but no issues now. Thanks for the link!