Starburst / Big Bang at DVinfo.net

Renton Maclachlan · April 20th, 2009, 04:59 AM

Perhaps someone may be able to help.

I want to produce a starburst/explosion or similar to illustrate over about 2 seconds, the Big Bang.

The words 'BIG' and 'BANG' would flash up as the starburst occurs. I know how to do the words, but would like to know how to create the starburst effect, Starting with a blank black screen and the burst coming from dead centre and predominently white to look as bright as it can be, though perhaps other colours around the outside as it rapidly expands out.

Any ideas, or pointers to tutorials?

Terry Esslinger · April 20th, 2009, 03:11 PM

Particle Illusion?

Renton Maclachlan · April 20th, 2009, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terry Esslinger

Particle Illusion?

Clarify...I'm not sure what this refers to...

Thanks

Renton Maclachlan · April 21st, 2009, 01:59 AM

ok, found it - thanks

Terry Esslinger · April 21st, 2009, 11:13 AM

Sorry about the somewhat abbreviated answer. PI is a somewhat pricey standalone app that would do what you want really nicely. Sometimes you can find it on sale. I got it for 1/2 price at Digital Juice.

But it is also possible that. you could find a prerendered segment in one of Digiital Juices products. It would be a lot easier and also cheaper.

Mike Kujbida · April 21st, 2009, 11:20 AM

Check out the clips (several are free) on the Detonation Films site.

Renton Maclachlan · April 21st, 2009, 01:36 PM

Particle Illusion SE (lite version so not the full product but apparently can still do heaps) is on special from Wondertouch (makers of PI) for $US69 till April 29th...

By the way I downloaded it (SE) last night along with all the emitters and there are about 4 'space explosions' that look pretty good for what I'm after. I fiddled with the parameters of one of them and improved it somewhat for me, but I need to have another go. I haven't really got a grip on the possible changes...

Lee Brennan · April 21st, 2009, 07:14 PM

Hi,
I've PI3 for awhile and I find I've hardly scratched the surface of what you can do with it. If you have the SE version wait until Wondertouch has an upgrade sale to PI3- you won't be sorry. If SE has "Mushroom Cloud" Emitters in it's library pull it in and start the emitter but fade it out as the cloud starts to form. It's an extremely intense white flash. Hope this helps.

Renton Maclachlan · April 22nd, 2009, 12:04 AM

Thanks Lee. I haven't bought SE - just on the 30 day trial - but looking through the emitters last night I didn't see 'Mushroom cloud/s'...

Dugi Barr · April 22nd, 2009, 04:55 AM

Mushroom Clouds are in July 2004 Emitters Renton.
particleIllusion 3.0

Renton Maclachlan · April 22nd, 2009, 05:28 AM

I've ended up with something I quite like. I used three PI emitters overlaid in Vegas with two of them on about 35% transparency - Space explosion 1 & 2, and a Flash Gordon. Then I picked up a neat explosion sound off the web for free and it all goes together quite nicely...actually there were three sounds for the first 2 seconds...

Chris Swanberg · April 22nd, 2009, 10:40 AM

Is there noise is space ? <grin>

Nice effect, mind if I add it to my library to use?

Renton Maclachlan · April 22nd, 2009, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Swanberg

Is there noise is space ? <grin>

Nice effect, mind if I add it to my library to use?

I don't think it happened like this at all. This is just to illustrate and spice up a point where I say : 'The universe exploded into existence from nothing, into nothing, for no reason.' In the BB view, the universe didn't expand INTO space. Space is said to have formed and expanded with the BB. VERY difficult to illustrate from the viewpoint of a hypothetical observer within the universe...

Yes you can use it...thanks for the compliment! :-)

Chris Swanberg · April 23rd, 2009, 11:18 AM

Thanks! (You don't happen to have a higher res version do you?)

Renton Maclachlan · April 23rd, 2009, 01:24 PM

I've got an avi at 37mb - 720 x 576. I'm planning on seeing if I can fiddle the explosion to run about 5 seconds longer which means I will have to re render it. I could do a render in mp4 which should get the size down...

April 20th, 2009, 04:59 AM	#1
Renton Maclachlan Trustee Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,180	Starburst / Big Bang Perhaps someone may be able to help. I want to produce a starburst/explosion or similar to illustrate over about 2 seconds, the Big Bang. The words 'BIG' and 'BANG' would flash up as the starburst occurs. I know how to do the words, but would like to know how to create the starburst effect, Starting with a blank black screen and the burst coming from dead centre and predominently white to look as bright as it can be, though perhaps other colours around the outside as it rapidly expands out. Any ideas, or pointers to tutorials?

April 20th, 2009, 03:11 PM	#2
Terry Esslinger Major Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sacramento, Elk Grove. Calif Posts: 306	Particle Illusion? __________________ Puttin the wet stuff on the red stuff!

April 21st, 2009, 11:13 AM	#5
Terry Esslinger Major Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sacramento, Elk Grove. Calif Posts: 306	Sorry about the somewhat abbreviated answer. PI is a somewhat pricey standalone app that would do what you want really nicely. Sometimes you can find it on sale. I got it for 1/2 price at Digital Juice. But it is also possible that. you could find a prerendered segment in one of Digiital Juices products. It would be a lot easier and also cheaper. __________________ Puttin the wet stuff on the red stuff!

April 21st, 2009, 07:14 PM	#8
Lee Brennan New Boot Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Linden, Virginia Posts: 5	Particle Illusion Hi, I've PI3 for awhile and I find I've hardly scratched the surface of what you can do with it. If you have the SE version wait until Wondertouch has an upgrade sale to PI3- you won't be sorry. If SE has "Mushroom Cloud" Emitters in it's library pull it in and start the emitter but fade it out as the cloud starts to form. It's an extremely intense white flash. Hope this helps.

April 21st, 2009, 01:59 AM	#4
Renton Maclachlan Trustee Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,180	ok, found it - thanks

April 21st, 2009, 11:20 AM	#6
Mike Kujbida Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Windsor, ON Canada Posts: 2,770	Check out the clips (several are free) on the Detonation Films site.

April 21st, 2009, 01:36 PM	#7
Renton Maclachlan Trustee Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,180	Particle Illusion SE (lite version so not the full product but apparently can still do heaps) is on special from Wondertouch (makers of PI) for $US69 till April 29th... By the way I downloaded it (SE) last night along with all the emitters and there are about 4 'space explosions' that look pretty good for what I'm after. I fiddled with the parameters of one of them and improved it somewhat for me, but I need to have another go. I haven't really got a grip on the possible changes...

April 22nd, 2009, 12:04 AM	#9
Renton Maclachlan Trustee Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,180	Thanks Lee. I haven't bought SE - just on the 30 day trial - but looking through the emitters last night I didn't see 'Mushroom cloud/s'...

April 22nd, 2009, 04:55 AM	#10
Dugi Barr Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Esher, Surrey Posts: 89	Mushroom Clouds are in July 2004 Emitters Renton. particleIllusion 3.0

April 22nd, 2009, 10:40 AM	#12
Chris Swanberg Major Player Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 904	Is there noise is space ? <grin> Nice effect, mind if I add it to my library to use?

April 23rd, 2009, 11:18 AM	#14
Chris Swanberg Major Player Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 904	Thanks! (You don't happen to have a higher res version do you?)

April 23rd, 2009, 01:24 PM	#15
Renton Maclachlan Trustee Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,180	I've got an avi at 37mb - 720 x 576. I'm planning on seeing if I can fiddle the explosion to run about 5 seconds longer which means I will have to re render it. I could do a render in mp4 which should get the size down...