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Joe Sacher · February 14th, 2004, 07:20 PM

If you have a scroll wheel mouse, you can scroll it to zoom in quickly and this gets you where arrow keys move one frame. You can look at the time code in the bottom right to see if you are far enough in so the arrow keys are jumping one frame. I no longer use the keyboard for this, since I got the Shuttle Pro. Each indent is one frame at any zoom level.

Looking at the Shuttle Pro settings, F3 goes back by one frame and F9 goes forward by one frame. If you are just single stepping, this isn't too akward. If you are going back and forth, this will be more akward. If I am working on my laptop without the Shuttle Pro, I still use the wheel mouse.

If you do any amount of editing, you won't regret picking up a Shuttle Pro. It will work with whatever software program you decide on. :)

Marcia Janine Galles · February 14th, 2004, 07:55 PM

Sorry, I'm doing a lousy job of expressing myself clearly. I was speaking of audio scrubbing one frame at a time. I want to scrub/hear each single solitary frame, slowly, at my command. I can get the cursor to move one frame at a time fine, but I don't hear anything when I do it the way you guys suggest. (sigh) I want to pick up each frame's audio to delete the couple of mic crackles I'm hearing from when I stupidly adjusted the camera at the worst possible moment. But JKL, set to slow, zips it too fast, as does control with the mouse. Will keep trying. Maybe a beer would help. ;-)

P.S. I keep meaning to order the Shuttle Pro and haven't gotten around to it. Will go do it right now.

Edward Troxel · February 14th, 2004, 08:54 PM

As mentioned, you can hold down CTRL while dragging the cursor. To get exactly one frame at a time, zoom in on the timeline.

Why do you need a "hamburger menu"? I'm not sure WHAT you would need on it! Everything is already readily accessible - most is either on the toolbar or with a right-click.

As Glenn mentioned, you can double-click on the timecodes in the lower right-hand corner of the timeline. Type in the exact timecode you want and you will be taken directly there. Take a look at issue #8 of my newsletter

Marcia Janine Galles · February 15th, 2004, 11:47 AM

Well, hopefully the Shuttle Pro will let me configure it to move one frame and freeze w/o having to hit the space bar to freeze it there myself manually, cuz I can't stop it from advancing to the next frame to save my life. It has to be told to stop, and I want it to stop itself, like other programs. But thanks though.

Tom Kronberg · February 15th, 2004, 04:55 PM

Does vegas have an anti flicker filter like PPro? This will be very important to me as I'll be using Jpeg stills and anticipate combating flicker.
Also, I've read in a Vegas forum somewhere that Vegas doesn't encode WM9 as well as PPro, which is important because I plan on outputting Hi Def from my stills.
Thanks

Edward Troxel · February 15th, 2004, 05:12 PM

Yes it does. Search for "Reduce Interlace Flicker" (it's on the right-click menu when you right-click a picture)

Vegas does a fine job at encoding WMV9 but I've never done any comparisons.

Brian Standing · February 17th, 2004, 01:57 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Marcia Janine Galles : Well, hopefully the Shuttle Pro will let me configure it to move one frame and freeze w/o having to hit the space bar to freeze it there myself manually, cuz I can't stop it from advancing to the next frame to save my life. It has to be told to stop, and I want it to stop itself, like other programs. But thanks though. -->>>

[ALT-LEFT/RIGHT ARROW] will advance one frame in either direction.

Or... set the Time Region to one frame, press the "loop" button at the bottom of the timeline to on, and press the space bar. Vegas will cycle the one frame (or however long the time selection is) repeatedly until you tell it to stop.

Edward Troxel · February 17th, 2004, 02:02 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Brian Standing : [ALT-LEFT/RIGHT ARROW] will advance one frame in either direction. -->>>

But it will NOT do so with audio.

February 14th, 2004, 07:20 PM	#31
Joe Sacher Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 177	If you have a scroll wheel mouse, you can scroll it to zoom in quickly and this gets you where arrow keys move one frame. You can look at the time code in the bottom right to see if you are far enough in so the arrow keys are jumping one frame. I no longer use the keyboard for this, since I got the Shuttle Pro. Each indent is one frame at any zoom level. Looking at the Shuttle Pro settings, F3 goes back by one frame and F9 goes forward by one frame. If you are just single stepping, this isn't too akward. If you are going back and forth, this will be more akward. If I am working on my laptop without the Shuttle Pro, I still use the wheel mouse. If you do any amount of editing, you won't regret picking up a Shuttle Pro. It will work with whatever software program you decide on. :)

February 14th, 2004, 07:55 PM	#32
Marcia Janine Galles Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Camarillo, CA Posts: 340	Sorry, I'm doing a lousy job of expressing myself clearly. I was speaking of audio scrubbing one frame at a time. I want to scrub/hear each single solitary frame, slowly, at my command. I can get the cursor to move one frame at a time fine, but I don't hear anything when I do it the way you guys suggest. (sigh) I want to pick up each frame's audio to delete the couple of mic crackles I'm hearing from when I stupidly adjusted the camera at the worst possible moment. But JKL, set to slow, zips it too fast, as does control with the mouse. Will keep trying. Maybe a beer would help. ;-) P.S. I keep meaning to order the Shuttle Pro and haven't gotten around to it. Will go do it right now.

February 14th, 2004, 08:54 PM	#33
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	As mentioned, you can hold down CTRL while dragging the cursor. To get exactly one frame at a time, zoom in on the timeline. Why do you need a "hamburger menu"? I'm not sure WHAT you would need on it! Everything is already readily accessible - most is either on the toolbar or with a right-click. As Glenn mentioned, you can double-click on the timecodes in the lower right-hand corner of the timeline. Type in the exact timecode you want and you will be taken directly there. Take a look at issue #8 of my newsletter

February 15th, 2004, 11:47 AM	#34
Marcia Janine Galles Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Camarillo, CA Posts: 340	Well, hopefully the Shuttle Pro will let me configure it to move one frame and freeze w/o having to hit the space bar to freeze it there myself manually, cuz I can't stop it from advancing to the next frame to save my life. It has to be told to stop, and I want it to stop itself, like other programs. But thanks though.

February 15th, 2004, 04:55 PM	#35
Tom Kronberg Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 25	Does vegas have an anti flicker filter like PPro? This will be very important to me as I'll be using Jpeg stills and anticipate combating flicker. Also, I've read in a Vegas forum somewhere that Vegas doesn't encode WM9 as well as PPro, which is important because I plan on outputting Hi Def from my stills. Thanks

February 15th, 2004, 05:12 PM	#36
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Yes it does. Search for "Reduce Interlace Flicker" (it's on the right-click menu when you right-click a picture) Vegas does a fine job at encoding WMV9 but I've never done any comparisons.

February 17th, 2004, 01:57 PM	#37
Brian Standing Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Madison, Wisconsin Posts: 621	<<<-- Originally posted by Marcia Janine Galles : Well, hopefully the Shuttle Pro will let me configure it to move one frame and freeze w/o having to hit the space bar to freeze it there myself manually, cuz I can't stop it from advancing to the next frame to save my life. It has to be told to stop, and I want it to stop itself, like other programs. But thanks though. -->>> [ALT-LEFT/RIGHT ARROW] will advance one frame in either direction. Or... set the Time Region to one frame, press the "loop" button at the bottom of the timeline to on, and press the space bar. Vegas will cycle the one frame (or however long the time selection is) repeatedly until you tell it to stop.

February 17th, 2004, 02:02 PM	#38
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	<<<-- Originally posted by Brian Standing : [ALT-LEFT/RIGHT ARROW] will advance one frame in either direction. -->>> But it will NOT do so with audio.