New Vegas Upgrade at DVinfo.net

Hugh DiMauro · December 2nd, 2003, 09:54 AM

Check the Vegas website

http://mediasoftware.sonypictures.co...p2.asp?DID=447

Vegas 4.0e is available to upgrade your original, out of the box Vegas 4.0a.

Edward Troxel · December 2nd, 2003, 11:24 AM

Vegas 4.0e and Vegas 4.0d are almost identical. The main difference is that Vegas 4.0e says "Sony" on the spash screen and in a few other areas.

If you are not bothered by any of the following problems, the upgrade is NOT a requirement.

URL flip metadata commands are now supported when rendering to RealMedia 9.

A bug has been fixed that caused gain reduction when track envelopes are used and the pan mode was set to Constant Power.

A bug that prevented Vegas from closing some DV files has been fixed.

A bug has been fixed that could cause Vegas to crash when pressing the Down Arrow key when the Master bus fader has focus.

If you DO upgrade to "e" (instead of "d"), be aware that some scripts may be "broken". I've had to work out a fix for Tsunami to work with either 4.0d OR 4.0e. Excalibur works with either with no changes needed.

Rob Lohman · December 2nd, 2003, 01:23 PM

Which things don't work anymore Ed? I'm using a custom script
for our Lady X work....

Aaron Koolen · December 2nd, 2003, 02:25 PM

Edward, would this gain change bug be the probelem I experienced I had various envelops on my tracks, but I had the problem that when I composited my 16:9 mask over my 4:3 footage, the contrast would seem to increase. The image got "darker".

Doesn't sound like the identical problem, but Iwill upgrade and see if it help.

Aaron

Edward Troxel · December 2nd, 2003, 03:13 PM

Rob, the only things that "broke" were anything relating to effects with the "Sonic Foundry" name. They now have to reference the "Sony" name to be found.

It was really a fairly minor change. For example, instead of looking for "Sonic Foundry Border", in 4.0e you have to look for "Sony Border".

Specifically, Video Wall, PIP, and Rotating Pic had to be updated to compensate for this change.

Aaron, I don't know if your problem would be related to that fix or not.

Peter Sieben · December 5th, 2003, 09:29 AM

Since I installed the 4.e update, everytime Vegas is started it wants internet access and it transmits/receives some info after that. I have the official bought version of the software so I won't mind, but what's happening during this data-transfer?

Glen Elliott · December 5th, 2003, 09:31 AM

There is an option under preferences you can change so I wont connect to the net. Installing the upgrade maybe reset some settings back to default.

Edward Troxel · December 5th, 2003, 09:55 AM

Vegas automatically checks to see if there is an "update". As Glen said, just go to Options - Preferences and turn off "Use Net Notify to stay informed about Sony products" (I assume "Sonic Foundry" was changed to "Sony" there as well)

Edward Troxel · December 5th, 2003, 09:57 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Glen Elliott : Installing the upgrade maybe reset some settings back to default. -->>>

Since 4.0e installs in an entirely different directory with, presumably, an entirely different set of registry entries, I wouldn't be surprised if ALL settings are set to default.

Glen Elliott · December 5th, 2003, 10:05 AM

Ouch that stinks- so when you do the upgrade to 4.0e you'll essentially have 2 sets of Vegas 4 on your machine?! A bit sloppy if you ask me- kinda like Adobe "upgrades".

Peter Sieben · December 5th, 2003, 11:02 AM

Are you that it installs to a different directory? A quick look on my own harddisk doesn't show that.

I've found the update function, it was turned on. I didn't knew this feature was present in Vegas and I never got any messages or pop-ups before, saying that an update is available or that Vegas wants to connect to the net. So the option was turned on by the update I pressume.

Peter

Edward Troxel · December 5th, 2003, 11:07 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Peter Sieben : Are you that it installs to a different directory? A quick look on my own harddisk doesn't show that.

I've found the update function, it was turned on. I didn't knew this feature was present in Vegas and I never got any messages or pop-ups before, saying that an update is available or that Vegas wants to connect to the net. So the option was turned on by the update I pressume.

Peter -->>>

Yes. It installs into a "Sony" directory instead of a "Sonic Foundry" directory.

The update function has been there for years and is turned ON by default. If your previous install was turned off, you turned it off.

Rob Lohman · December 10th, 2003, 10:54 AM

So Edward, does this mean it also has problems loading old
projects from the previous versions that are using filters with
the Sonic Foundry name in it??

Edward Troxel · December 10th, 2003, 12:15 PM

No problems that I am aware of. I'm sure everyone would have been screaming if that was the case. As for scripting, the problem came because the script was specifically looking for "Sonic Foundry" and now it is "Sony" so a match was not found.

Peter Sieben · December 10th, 2003, 12:50 PM

Rob,

I've been upgrading to the 'e' version during a large videoproject. I had no problems. The only event that occured was mentioned before in this thread.

Peter

December 2nd, 2003, 09:54 AM	#1
Hugh DiMauro Trustee Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,207	New Vegas Upgrade Check the Vegas website http://mediasoftware.sonypictures.co...p2.asp?DID=447 Vegas 4.0e is available to upgrade your original, out of the box Vegas 4.0a.

December 2nd, 2003, 01:23 PM	#3
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Which things don't work anymore Ed? I'm using a custom script for our Lady X work.... __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

December 2nd, 2003, 02:25 PM	#4
Aaron Koolen Trustee Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 1,727	Edward, would this gain change bug be the probelem I experienced I had various envelops on my tracks, but I had the problem that when I composited my 16:9 mask over my 4:3 footage, the contrast would seem to increase. The image got "darker". Doesn't sound like the identical problem, but Iwill upgrade and see if it help. Aaron __________________ My Website Meat Free Media

December 5th, 2003, 09:29 AM	#6
Peter Sieben Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 345	Since I installed the 4.e update, everytime Vegas is started it wants internet access and it transmits/receives some info after that. I have the official bought version of the software so I won't mind, but what's happening during this data-transfer? __________________ Peter / Orphic Film www.orphicfilm.nl and www.myspace.com/orphicfilm

December 5th, 2003, 11:02 AM	#11
Peter Sieben Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 345	Are you that it installs to a different directory? A quick look on my own harddisk doesn't show that. I've found the update function, it was turned on. I didn't knew this feature was present in Vegas and I never got any messages or pop-ups before, saying that an update is available or that Vegas wants to connect to the net. So the option was turned on by the update I pressume. Peter __________________ Peter / Orphic Film www.orphicfilm.nl and www.myspace.com/orphicfilm

December 2nd, 2003, 11:24 AM	#2
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Vegas 4.0e and Vegas 4.0d are almost identical. The main difference is that Vegas 4.0e says "Sony" on the spash screen and in a few other areas. If you are not bothered by any of the following problems, the upgrade is NOT a requirement. URL flip metadata commands are now supported when rendering to RealMedia 9. A bug has been fixed that caused gain reduction when track envelopes are used and the pan mode was set to Constant Power. A bug that prevented Vegas from closing some DV files has been fixed. A bug has been fixed that could cause Vegas to crash when pressing the Down Arrow key when the Master bus fader has focus. If you DO upgrade to "e" (instead of "d"), be aware that some scripts may be "broken". I've had to work out a fix for Tsunami to work with either 4.0d OR 4.0e. Excalibur works with either with no changes needed.

December 2nd, 2003, 03:13 PM	#5
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Rob, the only things that "broke" were anything relating to effects with the "Sonic Foundry" name. They now have to reference the "Sony" name to be found. It was really a fairly minor change. For example, instead of looking for "Sonic Foundry Border", in 4.0e you have to look for "Sony Border". Specifically, Video Wall, PIP, and Rotating Pic had to be updated to compensate for this change. Aaron, I don't know if your problem would be related to that fix or not.

December 5th, 2003, 09:31 AM	#7
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	There is an option under preferences you can change so I wont connect to the net. Installing the upgrade maybe reset some settings back to default.

December 5th, 2003, 09:55 AM	#8
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Vegas automatically checks to see if there is an "update". As Glen said, just go to Options - Preferences and turn off "Use Net Notify to stay informed about Sony products" (I assume "Sonic Foundry" was changed to "Sony" there as well)

December 5th, 2003, 09:57 AM	#9
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	<<<-- Originally posted by Glen Elliott : Installing the upgrade maybe reset some settings back to default. -->>> Since 4.0e installs in an entirely different directory with, presumably, an entirely different set of registry entries, I wouldn't be surprised if ALL settings are set to default.

December 5th, 2003, 10:05 AM	#10
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	Ouch that stinks- so when you do the upgrade to 4.0e you'll essentially have 2 sets of Vegas 4 on your machine?! A bit sloppy if you ask me- kinda like Adobe "upgrades".

December 5th, 2003, 11:07 AM	#12
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	<<<-- Originally posted by Peter Sieben : Are you that it installs to a different directory? A quick look on my own harddisk doesn't show that. I've found the update function, it was turned on. I didn't knew this feature was present in Vegas and I never got any messages or pop-ups before, saying that an update is available or that Vegas wants to connect to the net. So the option was turned on by the update I pressume. Peter -->>> Yes. It installs into a "Sony" directory instead of a "Sonic Foundry" directory. The update function has been there for years and is turned ON by default. If your previous install was turned off, you turned it off.

December 10th, 2003, 10:54 AM	#13
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	So Edward, does this mean it also has problems loading old projects from the previous versions that are using filters with the Sonic Foundry name in it?? __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

December 10th, 2003, 12:15 PM	#14
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	No problems that I am aware of. I'm sure everyone would have been screaming if that was the case. As for scripting, the problem came because the script was specifically looking for "Sonic Foundry" and now it is "Sony" so a match was not found.

December 10th, 2003, 12:50 PM	#15
Peter Sieben Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 345	Rob, I've been upgrading to the 'e' version during a large videoproject. I had no problems. The only event that occured was mentioned before in this thread. Peter __________________ Peter / Orphic Film www.orphicfilm.nl and www.myspace.com/orphicfilm