Vegas Video discussions from 2004 (Q1Q2)

Rob Easler · April 19th, 2004, 08:13 PM

Actually Will you can get Graffiti 3 from Boris for $149 with any Graffiti version including Ltd. It has the plug ins needed. At least that's what Boris told me.

Check out
http://stores.yahoo.com/artel-software/graf20up.html

Richard Gregg · April 19th, 2004, 08:22 PM

I'm sure I read on the Vegas 5 site (or in the manual) that each licence of Vegas 5 comes with 2 licences for network rendering. So I assume you can have a total of 3 machines rendering on your network with 1 licence.

Glen Elliott · April 19th, 2004, 09:28 PM

I installed the new Vegas+DVD today. However, oddly enough, all my audio plugins are still called "Sonic Foundry". Not only that- they reside in the "Third-Party Folder"....not the "Sony" folder?!

http://www.msprotege.com/members/Laz...%20Foundry.jpg

http://www.msprotege.com/members/Laz...y%20folder.jpg

Is this normal?

Dwight Flynn · April 20th, 2004, 07:40 AM

Hi folks, I have been unable to get straight answers about Vegas 5 and its HDV capabilities. I would like to know the following.

1. Will it caputre the hdv stream natively from the camera (e.g. hd10u, etc) or will I still have to use a separate capture utility

2. Will it allow for any capture from the camera in other formats or is the m2t (transport stream) still the only option.

3. If it will capture from the camera and mpeg is still the only option will it give a mpeg2 (program stream) file natively or is the m2t the only option

4. Has it been optimized to speed up and improve the quality of editing and rendering (e.g. eliminating the jerky look, artifacts, and especially the chroma noise you get with vegas 4.

Any answers is greatly appreciated!

Thanks

Peter Moore · April 20th, 2004, 09:04 AM

Does the new DVDA support dual layer? Don't see any mention of it on the site. I would be really surprised if it didn't, with the new Sony Dual Layer burner on the horizon.

Glen Elliott · April 20th, 2004, 01:01 PM

No...but hopefully it's a feature that is able to be added in a future patch.

Jason Casey · April 20th, 2004, 01:02 PM

I doubt it supports it now since the technology isn't out on the market yet. I would pretty much bet that once the technology is available, an upgrade will be available to support it as well.

Sam Forbes · April 20th, 2004, 07:45 PM

Ok fellas/ladies, I currently own Pinnacle 8 and am ready to upgrade. Pinnacle was very easy to use which I liked but it simply looks like an amatuer film when you are done. I have heard that Vegas is the top of the line for PC when considering overall function and ease of use. I don't really need all the crazy affects, I'm not looking to make a movie like the Matrix. I really need good slow motion, Pinnacle slow motion was horrible and there was no sound. Can you get slow motion sound with Vegas? Meaning, can you slow down the audio along with the video for that neat distorted sound?
I considered Premier Pro but have been told by several people that it is not user friendly comapared to Vegas. I also need dvd rendering. Any feedback would be appreciated.

David Mintzer · April 20th, 2004, 08:40 PM

emmmmmm--mine say nothing----just the name of the fx, no reference to Sony or Sonic. Check over at their site.

Edward Troxel · April 20th, 2004, 09:03 PM

Yes you can change the speed of the audio in Vegas (with many options available) as long as you want a SINGLE speed change. Just hold down the CTRL key and resize the clip.

Stephen Warriner · April 20th, 2004, 09:09 PM

The ADVC-100 goes both ways, is powered by a plug not IEEE although it does have both 4 and 6 pin firewire ports.

Douglas Spotted Eagle · April 21st, 2004, 12:32 AM

You can drop the m2t on the timeline and edit it.
You need to capture in another app.
you can rename the m2t as mpg and do that as well.
Chroma noise? Huh?
Jerky look is related to non-native transcode to DV for output.
You can't monitor non-DV on an external monitor, that's what the firewire cable passes for external preview. On my 3.06 (and on the demo machines Sony is showing) playback is snappy on a 2 stream m2t timeline.
Vegas CAN edit HDV. It's not optimized to do so. Hence, the Cineform option. With the intermediary AVI, you get MUCH better result. Not to mention external preview.

Graham Bernard · April 21st, 2004, 12:35 AM

I've got the Canopus ACEDVio card in the pc. Works beautifully!

Rob Lohman · April 21st, 2004, 02:57 AM

Thanks Jay! Much appreciated.

Rob Lohman · April 21st, 2004, 05:27 AM

You can try out the demo of the just released Vegas 5 here.

Always good to try out yourself before you go and buy a product.
You can also find a demo of Premiere Pro on the Adobe site.

April 19th, 2004, 09:28 PM	#1338
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	Upgraded to V5- Audio Plugins still called "Sonic Foundry" I installed the new Vegas+DVD today. However, oddly enough, all my audio plugins are still called "Sonic Foundry". Not only that- they reside in the "Third-Party Folder"....not the "Sony" folder?! http://www.msprotege.com/members/Laz...%20Foundry.jpg http://www.msprotege.com/members/Laz...y%20folder.jpg Is this normal?

April 20th, 2004, 07:40 AM	#1339
Dwight Flynn Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: New York, NY Posts: 393	A few quick questions about vegas 5 and HDV Hi folks, I have been unable to get straight answers about Vegas 5 and its HDV capabilities. I would like to know the following. 1. Will it caputre the hdv stream natively from the camera (e.g. hd10u, etc) or will I still have to use a separate capture utility 2. Will it allow for any capture from the camera in other formats or is the m2t (transport stream) still the only option. 3. If it will capture from the camera and mpeg is still the only option will it give a mpeg2 (program stream) file natively or is the m2t the only option 4. Has it been optimized to speed up and improve the quality of editing and rendering (e.g. eliminating the jerky look, artifacts, and especially the chroma noise you get with vegas 4. Any answers is greatly appreciated! Thanks

April 20th, 2004, 09:04 AM	#1340
Peter Moore Trustee Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Arlington VA Posts: 1,034	Dual Layer? Does the new DVDA support dual layer? Don't see any mention of it on the site. I would be really surprised if it didn't, with the new Sony Dual Layer burner on the horizon.

April 20th, 2004, 01:02 PM	#1342
Jason Casey Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 93	I doubt it supports it now since the technology isn't out on the market yet. I would pretty much bet that once the technology is available, an upgrade will be available to support it as well. __________________ Jason Casey www.jcmediaservices.com www.kickbacktracks.com Royalty Free Video Production Loops!

April 20th, 2004, 07:45 PM	#1343
Sam Forbes Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Houston Tx Posts: 79	Vegas 5 + DVD Ok fellas/ladies, I currently own Pinnacle 8 and am ready to upgrade. Pinnacle was very easy to use which I liked but it simply looks like an amatuer film when you are done. I have heard that Vegas is the top of the line for PC when considering overall function and ease of use. I don't really need all the crazy affects, I'm not looking to make a movie like the Matrix. I really need good slow motion, Pinnacle slow motion was horrible and there was no sound. Can you get slow motion sound with Vegas? Meaning, can you slow down the audio along with the video for that neat distorted sound? I considered Premier Pro but have been told by several people that it is not user friendly comapared to Vegas. I also need dvd rendering. Any feedback would be appreciated.

April 19th, 2004, 08:13 PM	#1336
Rob Easler Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Naperville, IL Posts: 219	Actually Will you can get Graffiti 3 from Boris for $149 with any Graffiti version including Ltd. It has the plug ins needed. At least that's what Boris told me. Check out http://stores.yahoo.com/artel-software/graf20up.html

April 19th, 2004, 08:22 PM	#1337
Richard Gregg Tourist Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hobart, Tasmania, Australia Posts: 2	I'm sure I read on the Vegas 5 site (or in the manual) that each licence of Vegas 5 comes with 2 licences for network rendering. So I assume you can have a total of 3 machines rendering on your network with 1 licence.

April 20th, 2004, 01:01 PM	#1341
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	No...but hopefully it's a feature that is able to be added in a future patch.

April 20th, 2004, 08:40 PM	#1344
David Mintzer Rextilleon Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Pleasantville, NY Posts: 520	emmmmmm--mine say nothing----just the name of the fx, no reference to Sony or Sonic. Check over at their site.

April 20th, 2004, 09:03 PM	#1345
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Yes you can change the speed of the audio in Vegas (with many options available) as long as you want a SINGLE speed change. Just hold down the CTRL key and resize the clip.

April 20th, 2004, 09:09 PM	#1346
Stephen Warriner New Boot Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Edgartown, MA Posts: 10	The ADVC-100 goes both ways, is powered by a plug not IEEE although it does have both 4 and 6 pin firewire ports.

April 21st, 2004, 12:32 AM	#1347
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	You can drop the m2t on the timeline and edit it. You need to capture in another app. you can rename the m2t as mpg and do that as well. Chroma noise? Huh? Jerky look is related to non-native transcode to DV for output. You can't monitor non-DV on an external monitor, that's what the firewire cable passes for external preview. On my 3.06 (and on the demo machines Sony is showing) playback is snappy on a 2 stream m2t timeline. Vegas CAN edit HDV. It's not optimized to do so. Hence, the Cineform option. With the intermediary AVI, you get MUCH better result. Not to mention external preview. __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

April 21st, 2004, 12:35 AM	#1348
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	I've got the Canopus ACEDVio card in the pc. Works beautifully!

April 21st, 2004, 02:57 AM	#1349
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Thanks Jay! Much appreciated. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

April 21st, 2004, 05:27 AM	#1350
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	You can try out the demo of the just released Vegas 5 here. Always good to try out yourself before you go and buy a product. You can also find a demo of Premiere Pro on the Adobe site. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors