Vegas Video discussions from 2004 (Q1Q2)

Rob Lohman · March 29th, 2004, 12:15 PM

If I'm understanding you correctly it might be better to add a
track for just the pictures that is of the exact same resolution as
your pictures. Do all your transitions on that. Then put a normal
resolution track below your picture thread, that should add the
black "borders" and thus not have the transitions. I haven't
tried this out, but it sounds like it might work in your case.

Edward Troxel · March 29th, 2004, 12:15 PM

Which transition in particular are you wanting to use? Dissolves look great. However, transitions will deal with the video frame. In your case, the video frame is black on the left and right and will, therefore, be part of the transition. Maybe if we can narrow down exactly what you're wanting....

Jon Omiatek · March 29th, 2004, 12:16 PM

PS... This works fine if I put one picture on a video track and the other on the other video track, then it recognizes the transparent background.

I will post a link a sample. I am trying the spiral transition.

Thanks,

Jon

Jon Omiatek · March 29th, 2004, 12:24 PM

http://inside.championwindow.com/fab...transition.zip

You will see the video frame black area covers up the bottom picture.

Thanks,

Jon

Edward Troxel · March 29th, 2004, 02:00 PM

I have just confirmed the behavior and don't have an immediate solution (other than, as you said, use two tracks).

Jon Omiatek · March 29th, 2004, 02:32 PM

It would be nice if you could do it on the same track, the transitions seem to work better.

Thanks again.

Jon

George Brackett III · March 29th, 2004, 06:58 PM

Pete- don't be scrared. It won't bite you.

David Mintzer · March 29th, 2004, 07:25 PM

I found that with Satish's tools often it is something dumb that cause crashes etc. For instance, you have turn down your preview memory to 0 in order for these tools to work. Stuff like that usually causes the problems.

Andy Shrimpton · March 29th, 2004, 10:30 PM

Finally, it's here!

Vegas 4.0 and DVDA 1.0 installed, and working!

I've already burnt a dvd, arelatively quick project, consisting of 2 sets of a band playing live, and adding audio recorded on the Mini disc player (The reason I got the program in the first place, to sinc audio and video!)

The question I have today is:

Should I render the titles and audio and video for each set as an .AVI file, and let DVDA render the .AVI files to MPEG-2 when burning the DVD, or am I better off rendering in Vegas to MPEG-2, then using the MPEGs in DVDA?

I'm wondering on two counts.

1) Quality

and 2) Time.

All help, as usual, very much appreciated.

Thanks, Andy

Andy Shrimpton · March 29th, 2004, 10:53 PM

Hi Vince:

I didn't get any beeps, the audio dropped out every 5 seconds or so for 1/2 a second.

BTW got my Vegas proper yesterday, installed, and now I'm off and running.

Love this program.

Andy

Edward Troxel · March 29th, 2004, 10:53 PM

Congratulations!!!

It really doesn't matter whether you give DVDA an AVI file or render to MPEG in Vegas. Each method has it's own advantage. If you render to MPEG in Vegas:
1) You only have to render the MPEG file ONCE no matter how many times you build the DVD
2) You have more control over the MPEG settings

If you give DVDA an AVI file:
1) Simpler method of setting the file size to "fit"

Vince Debart · March 30th, 2004, 05:21 AM

Thanks Andy happy cutting

will stay in touch

Best
Vince

Joseph Lawrence · March 30th, 2004, 12:47 PM

If I build the static 35mm adapter for my GL2, what steps in Vegas are required to get the image upright and reversed correctly?

Thanks,

Joseph

Law Tyler · March 30th, 2004, 01:08 PM

Yeah, Rob, too bad.

Many times when we are just playing around, could really burn a CD instead of a more expensive DVD blank.

Andy Shrimpton · March 30th, 2004, 08:15 PM

Thanks for the reply Edward.

Sets 3 and 4 of the band I rendered to MPEG, and imported into DVDA.

I then deleted the captured AVI files (approx. 40 mins each)

I then imported the MPEGs into DVDA and guess what? I was about 15% over the 4.7 gigs.

Am I correct in assuming if I'd brought in AVI files, I'd be able to change the bit rate to 'squash' the info down enough to fit? The bit rate wouldn't change, I'm thinking it was because they were mpegs.

If So then I've learnt:

1/. Don't delete the source AVIs until I'm POSITIVE I've finished with them.

2/. If I think I might be near the 4.7 gig limit, let DVDA render.

Thnaks again for the replies Edward.

Cheers,

Andy

March 29th, 2004, 12:15 PM	#1036
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	If I'm understanding you correctly it might be better to add a track for just the pictures that is of the exact same resolution as your pictures. Do all your transitions on that. Then put a normal resolution track below your picture thread, that should add the black "borders" and thus not have the transitions. I haven't tried this out, but it sounds like it might work in your case. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

March 29th, 2004, 12:24 PM	#1039
Jon Omiatek Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 755	link to sample http://inside.championwindow.com/fab...transition.zip You will see the video frame black area covers up the bottom picture. Thanks, Jon

March 29th, 2004, 02:32 PM	#1041
Jon Omiatek Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 755	Thanks for your time It would be nice if you could do it on the same track, the transitions seem to work better. Thanks again. Jon

March 29th, 2004, 06:58 PM	#1042
George Brackett III Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Waterville, NY USA Posts: 83	Pete- don't be scrared. It won't bite you. __________________ If the quality of mercy is not strained, then how do they get the lumps out?

March 29th, 2004, 10:30 PM	#1044
Andy Shrimpton Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Robina Queensland Australia Posts: 73	It's Here, It's Here! Finally, it's here! Vegas 4.0 and DVDA 1.0 installed, and working! I've already burnt a dvd, arelatively quick project, consisting of 2 sets of a band playing live, and adding audio recorded on the Mini disc player (The reason I got the program in the first place, to sinc audio and video!) The question I have today is: Should I render the titles and audio and video for each set as an .AVI file, and let DVDA render the .AVI files to MPEG-2 when burning the DVD, or am I better off rendering in Vegas to MPEG-2, then using the MPEGs in DVDA? I'm wondering on two counts. 1) Quality and 2) Time. All help, as usual, very much appreciated. Thanks, Andy __________________ 'This one goes to eleven' Nigel Tufnell

March 29th, 2004, 12:15 PM	#1037
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Which transition in particular are you wanting to use? Dissolves look great. However, transitions will deal with the video frame. In your case, the video frame is black on the left and right and will, therefore, be part of the transition. Maybe if we can narrow down exactly what you're wanting....

March 29th, 2004, 12:16 PM	#1038
Jon Omiatek Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 755	PS... This works fine if I put one picture on a video track and the other on the other video track, then it recognizes the transparent background. I will post a link a sample. I am trying the spiral transition. Thanks, Jon

March 29th, 2004, 02:00 PM	#1040
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	I have just confirmed the behavior and don't have an immediate solution (other than, as you said, use two tracks).

March 29th, 2004, 07:25 PM	#1043
David Mintzer Rextilleon Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Pleasantville, NY Posts: 520	I found that with Satish's tools often it is something dumb that cause crashes etc. For instance, you have turn down your preview memory to 0 in order for these tools to work. Stuff like that usually causes the problems.

March 29th, 2004, 10:53 PM	#1045
Andy Shrimpton Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Robina Queensland Australia Posts: 73	Hi Vince: I didn't get any beeps, the audio dropped out every 5 seconds or so for 1/2 a second. BTW got my Vegas proper yesterday, installed, and now I'm off and running. Love this program. Andy __________________ 'This one goes to eleven' Nigel Tufnell

March 29th, 2004, 10:53 PM	#1046
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Congratulations!!! It really doesn't matter whether you give DVDA an AVI file or render to MPEG in Vegas. Each method has it's own advantage. If you render to MPEG in Vegas: 1) You only have to render the MPEG file ONCE no matter how many times you build the DVD 2) You have more control over the MPEG settings If you give DVDA an AVI file: 1) Simpler method of setting the file size to "fit"

March 30th, 2004, 05:21 AM	#1047
Vince Debart Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Denver Posts: 254	Thanks Andy happy cutting will stay in touch Best Vince

March 30th, 2004, 12:47 PM	#1048
Joseph Lawrence Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: fort wayne, IN Posts: 50	Vegas 4.0 perform invert/revert? If I build the static 35mm adapter for my GL2, what steps in Vegas are required to get the image upright and reversed correctly? Thanks, Joseph

March 30th, 2004, 01:08 PM	#1049
Law Tyler Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 204	Yeah, Rob, too bad. Many times when we are just playing around, could really burn a CD instead of a more expensive DVD blank.

March 30th, 2004, 08:15 PM	#1050
Andy Shrimpton Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Robina Queensland Australia Posts: 73	Thanks for the reply Edward. Sets 3 and 4 of the band I rendered to MPEG, and imported into DVDA. I then deleted the captured AVI files (approx. 40 mins each) I then imported the MPEGs into DVDA and guess what? I was about 15% over the 4.7 gigs. Am I correct in assuming if I'd brought in AVI files, I'd be able to change the bit rate to 'squash' the info down enough to fit? The bit rate wouldn't change, I'm thinking it was because they were mpegs. If So then I've learnt: 1/. Don't delete the source AVIs until I'm POSITIVE I've finished with them. 2/. If I think I might be near the 4.7 gig limit, let DVDA render. Thnaks again for the replies Edward. Cheers, Andy __________________ 'This one goes to eleven' Nigel Tufnell