Vegas Video discussions from 2004 (Q1Q2)

Harry Settle · March 24th, 2004, 03:58 PM

Only if you are lucky.

The safe zone may be different on different tv's. Set an unobtrusive background behind your pictures that won't distract from the project, just in case.

Edward Troxel · March 24th, 2004, 04:19 PM

As Harry said, every TV is different. If you MUST see the entire picture, put in inside the inner safe zone and you'll get a slight black border on all but the oldest of TVs. Personally, I just leave the picture full size and let the TV cut off what it does. Just make sure you don't have anything important in that area.

Also, I never bother making my pictures 655x480. I just load any size, use Match Output Aspect in Pan/Crop, and then adjust the size using Pan/Crop.

Andy Shrimpton · March 24th, 2004, 06:14 PM

I gathered there would be a few users here, just was hoping I'd get a reply from someone on the coast, or even Brisbane.

BTW Edward, been doing what you suggested and using the demo version. Already it's coming together, but how frustrating is it when you can't save what you've done!

Waiting, waiting.......

Jon Omiatek · March 24th, 2004, 07:52 PM

Great. Thank you both. I made the pictures 655 x 480 and let it cut out what didn't fit and it looked good. I am just a perfectionist, wanna be perfectionist that is. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't something simple that would make it look perfect.

Thanks again.

Jon

Stephen van Vuuren · March 24th, 2004, 09:23 PM

I saw in my issue of Videography that Vegas 5 and DVDA 2 will be announced at NAB.

I have several DVD projects sorely in need of alternate audio tracks and menu transitions. Anyone seen these features that's not under NDA? Anyone going to NAB? Any ideas of release date and pricing?

Don Donatello · March 24th, 2004, 09:36 PM

i'm 50/50 on NAB .. it's HUGE !!! this time will not even try to see ALL of it .. might go in 21st AM and out 22nd PM ??
i think there's a lets meet thing sponsored by VASST on the 22nd 7:30am to 9:30 am ....

Edward Troxel · March 24th, 2004, 09:53 PM

I would not trust any information until any official release announcements are made by Sony.

Stephen van Vuuren · March 24th, 2004, 09:56 PM

The information in Videography looks pretty official. It's in the NAB preview section.

Emre Safak · March 25th, 2004, 03:00 AM

You want a miniDVD, which can be burned with Nero 6.

Rob Lohman · March 25th, 2004, 03:05 AM

I don't know your camera, but check to see if it has black bars.

I'm not sure what you mean with "drop" option, but I'm using
a mask I created myself in Vegas. Go to this page and
you'll be able to download the mask near the bottom of the page
(the PAL 16:9 mask is the one you want)

Make sure it is in the top video track in Vegas and select the
correct compositing mode (can't remember which one that is on
the top of my head, so just try the options on the list). Make sure
you have some footage beneath it on another track.

Rob Lohman · March 25th, 2004, 03:25 AM

Why did you resize the pictures to 655x480? That sounds like
you are loosing resolution. What was the original size? You might
also have the wrong pixel aspect ratio.

Where did these pictures came from? Digital camera?

Sunny Dhinsey · March 25th, 2004, 05:43 AM

Hey All!

I just wanted to know if it was possible to create true time-lapse clips in Vegas 4 from full length video.

I don't want to be having to use the 'reduce length - preserve content' feature and I would be grateful if anyone could inform me as to whether or not I can create frame-rate specific time-lapse clips in Vegas 4.

Thank You!

Edward Troxel · March 25th, 2004, 08:37 AM

You just need to speed up the clip. You can do that by either holding down the CTRL key while resizing the clip (smaller) or by applying a velocity envelope. Not sure what you mean by: 'reduce length - preserve content'. There is a "Preserve Pitch" option related to audio.

Glen Elliott · March 25th, 2004, 09:32 AM

Probably meant reduce the size of the clip but without clipping any of it off. Technically it's reducing the "duration"....he just decribed it in an odd way.

Speaking of time lapse, I'm looking to do something similar soon. I want to get a shot of a church with the clouds rolling by. I know the footage might have to be sped up well beyond what a ctrl+drag, or velocity envelope will allow- so I have to do it in steps. Speed it up- render it out- speed it up....will this result in any lesser quality, rerendering it so many times?

Edward Troxel · March 25th, 2004, 09:47 AM

Glen, in your case, yes that will work fine. However, remember you can use BOTH the CTRL-Drag AND the Velocity Envelope on the same clip. By doing this, you can get up to a 12x speed increase in ONE pass. If you need faster than that, just do what you said and speed up the rendered clip. When removing frames (which is what you're really doing) this is much less of problem.

March 24th, 2004, 03:58 PM	#946
Harry Settle Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bemidji, MN Posts: 276	Only if you are lucky. The safe zone may be different on different tv's. Set an unobtrusive background behind your pictures that won't distract from the project, just in case. __________________ "DOH"!!!

March 24th, 2004, 06:14 PM	#948
Andy Shrimpton Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Robina Queensland Australia Posts: 73	I gathered there would be a few users here, just was hoping I'd get a reply from someone on the coast, or even Brisbane. BTW Edward, been doing what you suggested and using the demo version. Already it's coming together, but how frustrating is it when you can't save what you've done! Waiting, waiting....... __________________ 'This one goes to eleven' Nigel Tufnell

March 24th, 2004, 09:23 PM	#950
Stephen van Vuuren Space Hipster Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,508	Anyone see Vegas 5 and DVDA 2 yet? Release Date? I saw in my issue of Videography that Vegas 5 and DVDA 2 will be announced at NAB. I have several DVD projects sorely in need of alternate audio tracks and menu transitions. Anyone seen these features that's not under NDA? Anyone going to NAB? Any ideas of release date and pricing? __________________ stephen v2 www.insaturnsrings.com

March 24th, 2004, 09:56 PM	#953
Stephen van Vuuren Space Hipster Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,508	The information in Videography looks pretty official. It's in the NAB preview section. __________________ stephen v2 www.insaturnsrings.com

March 25th, 2004, 03:05 AM	#955
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	I don't know your camera, but check to see if it has black bars. I'm not sure what you mean with "drop" option, but I'm using a mask I created myself in Vegas. Go to this page and you'll be able to download the mask near the bottom of the page (the PAL 16:9 mask is the one you want) Make sure it is in the top video track in Vegas and select the correct compositing mode (can't remember which one that is on the top of my head, so just try the options on the list). Make sure you have some footage beneath it on another track. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

March 24th, 2004, 04:19 PM	#947
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	As Harry said, every TV is different. If you MUST see the entire picture, put in inside the inner safe zone and you'll get a slight black border on all but the oldest of TVs. Personally, I just leave the picture full size and let the TV cut off what it does. Just make sure you don't have anything important in that area. Also, I never bother making my pictures 655x480. I just load any size, use Match Output Aspect in Pan/Crop, and then adjust the size using Pan/Crop.

March 24th, 2004, 07:52 PM	#949
Jon Omiatek Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 755	Great. Thank you both. I made the pictures 655 x 480 and let it cut out what didn't fit and it looked good. I am just a perfectionist, wanna be perfectionist that is. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't something simple that would make it look perfect. Thanks again. Jon

March 24th, 2004, 09:36 PM	#951
Don Donatello Hawaiian Shirt Mogul Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: northern cailfornia Posts: 1,261	i'm 50/50 on NAB .. it's HUGE !!! this time will not even try to see ALL of it .. might go in 21st AM and out 22nd PM ?? i think there's a lets meet thing sponsored by VASST on the 22nd 7:30am to 9:30 am ....

March 24th, 2004, 09:53 PM	#952
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	I would not trust any information until any official release announcements are made by Sony.

March 25th, 2004, 03:00 AM	#954
Emre Safak Trustee Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brookline, MA Posts: 1,447	You want a miniDVD, which can be burned with Nero 6.

March 25th, 2004, 03:25 AM	#956
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Why did you resize the pictures to 655x480? That sounds like you are loosing resolution. What was the original size? You might also have the wrong pixel aspect ratio. Where did these pictures came from? Digital camera? __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

March 25th, 2004, 05:43 AM	#957
Sunny Dhinsey Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: London, England Posts: 127	Time-lapse In Vegas 4?? Hey All! I just wanted to know if it was possible to create true time-lapse clips in Vegas 4 from full length video. I don't want to be having to use the 'reduce length - preserve content' feature and I would be grateful if anyone could inform me as to whether or not I can create frame-rate specific time-lapse clips in Vegas 4. Thank You! __________________ Sunny Dhinsey Director - www.filmlore.tv

March 25th, 2004, 08:37 AM	#958
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	You just need to speed up the clip. You can do that by either holding down the CTRL key while resizing the clip (smaller) or by applying a velocity envelope. Not sure what you mean by: 'reduce length - preserve content'. There is a "Preserve Pitch" option related to audio.

March 25th, 2004, 09:32 AM	#959
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	Probably meant reduce the size of the clip but without clipping any of it off. Technically it's reducing the "duration"....he just decribed it in an odd way. Speaking of time lapse, I'm looking to do something similar soon. I want to get a shot of a church with the clouds rolling by. I know the footage might have to be sped up well beyond what a ctrl+drag, or velocity envelope will allow- so I have to do it in steps. Speed it up- render it out- speed it up....will this result in any lesser quality, rerendering it so many times?

March 25th, 2004, 09:47 AM	#960
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Glen, in your case, yes that will work fine. However, remember you can use BOTH the CTRL-Drag AND the Velocity Envelope on the same clip. By doing this, you can get up to a 12x speed increase in ONE pass. If you need faster than that, just do what you said and speed up the rendered clip. When removing frames (which is what you're really doing) this is much less of problem.