Vegas Video discussions from 2004 (Q1Q2)

John Hudson · March 4th, 2004, 08:04 PM

I purchased the 2 DVD Vegas 4.0 Tutorial by Gary Kliener and am really impressed. Talk about getting you up to speed. I think I learned more in 2 nights than in 3 weeks scewing around with it.

Sounds as if you do have experience, and that alone should be a huge benifit to you. I am a novice and have a pretty good grasp of Vegas already. I'm sure there is alot more to learn, but what I know now is second nature already.

Edward Troxel · March 4th, 2004, 09:21 PM

Gary's DVD set is definitely good and highly recommended http://www.vegastrainingandtools.com

DSE also has a DVD set and book

You can also look at my newsletters http://www.jetdv.com/tts

First recommendation: forget what you know about FCP. You'll do it in a different way in Vegas. However, Vegas IS very logical in how it does things.

Glen Elliott · March 4th, 2004, 10:21 PM

Neo, get ready to step out of the Matrix. lol

...at least that's what it felt like for me learning Vegas. I had to drop almost everything that I learned in the past 2 years working with Premiere. You'll be glad you did- the things that make absolutly no sense at first will begin to make sense...you'll start to see, as Edward mentioned, how logical it really is.

Visual training will definitly speed up the process, but be prepared for the most difficult NLE transition you could ever possibly take. In the end you'll see the beauty of it- and who knows...maybe you'll stay. Good luck- keep us informed on your thoughts/opinions as you learn it.

Glen Elliott · March 4th, 2004, 10:24 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Elmer Lang :

Also, isn't one version better to edit HD (Vegas or Vegas+DVD)? Though maybe I should ask this in the HD forum.

Thanks,
Elmer -->>>

All newer versions of Vegas (4.0b-and up) handle HD footage. The Vegas+DVD simply adds DVD Architect (a DVD authoring program), and invaluable AC-3 encoding.

Gary Kleiner · March 5th, 2004, 12:36 AM

>I purchased the 2 DVD Vegas 4.0 Tutorial by Gary Kliener and am really impressed. Talk about getting you up to speed. I think I learned more in 2 nights than in 3 weeks scewing around with it.<

John,

You made my day. Glad you got a lot out of the DVDs.

Gary

Martin Garrison · March 5th, 2004, 08:56 AM

Is the AC-3 encoding, the surround codec, or is it just a stereo version?

Edward Troxel · March 5th, 2004, 10:44 AM

The AC-3 encoder included with Vegas+DVD is an AC-3 5.1 encoder. It can also encode AC-3 stereo.

Jason Casey · March 5th, 2004, 02:13 PM

It's funny how nobody ever comes to Madison WI, where Vegas is made :)

Andy Shrimpton · March 5th, 2004, 04:42 PM

Thanks to all those that helped me with my questions, I've ordered the Vegas 4 Acedemic Version, and hopefully it will be here in a week or so. Thanks to Peter Seiben for the link for Overseas buyers.

So now I wait, then start the learning curve.

Thanks again All,

Andy

John Hudson · March 5th, 2004, 06:07 PM

Don't forget to look into G. Klieners 2 DVD Titorial selection. It is rockin'

Dan Lum · March 5th, 2004, 07:56 PM

I burned a movie using DVDA 1.0b and like so many other times, the menu came up without a hitch.

I select to play a movie and the DVD player stops! I reload the DVD and the other menu selections work fine, just this one movie.

Any ideas?

Brad Higerd · March 5th, 2004, 08:23 PM

My computer continues to crash when scrubbing in Vegas (d build), and I cannot get it to stop. The error messages state that I am either out of memory or that it can't read from some specified memory location. The machine has 1 Gb of Cosair ECC RAM that has never given me problems. This problem persists no matter how large or small the file I edit. The existence or non-existence of a page file on an independent SATA drive has had no effect. I have tested the drives, and they can sustain read/write speeds of about 40 Mb/s (all Maxtor SATA hdds). In addition, I increased the latency of the RAM timings to try to increase stability, and still no solution has been reached.

If you have any idea on why I am having this problem, please help me.

Thanks,
Brad

Edward Troxel · March 5th, 2004, 08:38 PM

There's a few things you can try such as trying a different player, burning another copy and see if it works, burn on a different media, try burning from a different program, try re-rendering that one file, try rebuilding the project in case of a bad build. Unfortunately, these things can be tough to trace down.

Dan Lum · March 5th, 2004, 08:40 PM

I've been trying to trace it down but as you said, it's a difficult thing to do. I've downloaded the latest DVDA from Sony and in the process of preparing and burning a new instance.

I've tried different media, it works on 2 other players but doesn't on the newest one (highest compatibility as well).

Guy Bruner · March 5th, 2004, 11:22 PM

Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling Vegas?

March 4th, 2004, 10:24 PM	#679
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	Re: FCP->Vegas <<<-- Originally posted by Elmer Lang : Also, isn't one version better to edit HD (Vegas or Vegas+DVD)? Though maybe I should ask this in the HD forum. Thanks, Elmer -->>> All newer versions of Vegas (4.0b-and up) handle HD footage. The Vegas+DVD simply adds DVD Architect (a DVD authoring program), and invaluable AC-3 encoding.

March 5th, 2004, 02:13 PM	#683
Jason Casey Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 93	It's funny how nobody ever comes to Madison WI, where Vegas is made :) __________________ Jason Casey www.jcmediaservices.com www.kickbacktracks.com Royalty Free Video Production Loops!

March 5th, 2004, 04:42 PM	#684
Andy Shrimpton Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Robina Queensland Australia Posts: 73	Thanks Thanks to all those that helped me with my questions, I've ordered the Vegas 4 Acedemic Version, and hopefully it will be here in a week or so. Thanks to Peter Seiben for the link for Overseas buyers. So now I wait, then start the learning curve. Thanks again All, Andy __________________ 'This one goes to eleven' Nigel Tufnell

March 5th, 2004, 07:56 PM	#686
Dan Lum New Boot Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Vancouver Canada Posts: 9	Weird DVDA problem I burned a movie using DVDA 1.0b and like so many other times, the menu came up without a hitch. I select to play a movie and the DVD player stops! I reload the DVD and the other menu selections work fine, just this one movie. Any ideas?

March 5th, 2004, 08:23 PM	#687
Brad Higerd Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 186	Crashing When Scrubbing My computer continues to crash when scrubbing in Vegas (d build), and I cannot get it to stop. The error messages state that I am either out of memory or that it can't read from some specified memory location. The machine has 1 Gb of Cosair ECC RAM that has never given me problems. This problem persists no matter how large or small the file I edit. The existence or non-existence of a page file on an independent SATA drive has had no effect. I have tested the drives, and they can sustain read/write speeds of about 40 Mb/s (all Maxtor SATA hdds). In addition, I increased the latency of the RAM timings to try to increase stability, and still no solution has been reached. If you have any idea on why I am having this problem, please help me. Thanks, Brad

March 4th, 2004, 08:04 PM	#676
John Hudson Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: 32° 44' N 117° 10' W Posts: 820	I purchased the 2 DVD Vegas 4.0 Tutorial by Gary Kliener and am really impressed. Talk about getting you up to speed. I think I learned more in 2 nights than in 3 weeks scewing around with it. Sounds as if you do have experience, and that alone should be a huge benifit to you. I am a novice and have a pretty good grasp of Vegas already. I'm sure there is alot more to learn, but what I know now is second nature already.

March 4th, 2004, 09:21 PM	#677
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Gary's DVD set is definitely good and highly recommended http://www.vegastrainingandtools.com DSE also has a DVD set and book You can also look at my newsletters http://www.jetdv.com/tts First recommendation: forget what you know about FCP. You'll do it in a different way in Vegas. However, Vegas IS very logical in how it does things.

March 4th, 2004, 10:21 PM	#678
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	Neo, get ready to step out of the Matrix. lol ...at least that's what it felt like for me learning Vegas. I had to drop almost everything that I learned in the past 2 years working with Premiere. You'll be glad you did- the things that make absolutly no sense at first will begin to make sense...you'll start to see, as Edward mentioned, how logical it really is. Visual training will definitly speed up the process, but be prepared for the most difficult NLE transition you could ever possibly take. In the end you'll see the beauty of it- and who knows...maybe you'll stay. Good luck- keep us informed on your thoughts/opinions as you learn it.

March 5th, 2004, 12:36 AM	#680
Gary Kleiner Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado Posts: 166	>I purchased the 2 DVD Vegas 4.0 Tutorial by Gary Kliener and am really impressed. Talk about getting you up to speed. I think I learned more in 2 nights than in 3 weeks scewing around with it.< John, You made my day. Glad you got a lot out of the DVDs. Gary

March 5th, 2004, 08:56 AM	#681
Martin Garrison Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 173	Is the AC-3 encoding, the surround codec, or is it just a stereo version?

March 5th, 2004, 10:44 AM	#682
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	The AC-3 encoder included with Vegas+DVD is an AC-3 5.1 encoder. It can also encode AC-3 stereo.

March 5th, 2004, 06:07 PM	#685
John Hudson Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: 32° 44' N 117° 10' W Posts: 820	Don't forget to look into G. Klieners 2 DVD Titorial selection. It is rockin'

March 5th, 2004, 08:38 PM	#688
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	There's a few things you can try such as trying a different player, burning another copy and see if it works, burn on a different media, try burning from a different program, try re-rendering that one file, try rebuilding the project in case of a bad build. Unfortunately, these things can be tough to trace down.

March 5th, 2004, 08:40 PM	#689
Dan Lum New Boot Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Vancouver Canada Posts: 9	I've been trying to trace it down but as you said, it's a difficult thing to do. I've downloaded the latest DVDA from Sony and in the process of preparing and burning a new instance. I've tried different media, it works on 2 other players but doesn't on the newest one (highest compatibility as well).

March 5th, 2004, 11:22 PM	#690
Guy Bruner Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ashford, AL Posts: 937	Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling Vegas?