Vegas Video discussions from 2004 (Q1Q2)

Ian Stark · January 9th, 2004, 02:36 PM

Hi all.

I'm not in front of my editing pc now so I can't test this out for myself.

Can anyone tell me whether it is possible to apply the same pan & crop settings to multiple clips in one hit (ie without having to edit each clip's pan & crop keyframes).

I have copied and pasted a whole load of stills from three .veg files, two of which are at at 16:9, into a new project which is at 4:3. I had used pan and crop in the original projects to give the stills a sense of motion and it all looked great. But, of course, now they're in a 4:3 project I have a framing problem (ie losing the top and bottom of each image) which I want to get rid of!

Rather than go through each clip separately, is it possible to apply a 4:3 pan & crop to all them together?

I think that makes sense! Any help appreciated!

Thanks.

Ian . . .

Edward Troxel · January 9th, 2004, 04:31 PM

Yes. Just "copy" the first one, select the rest and choose "Paste Attributes"

Ian Stark · January 9th, 2004, 05:57 PM

Of course. How stupid. Thanks for the friendly reminder, Edward!

Now, what would be really handy is a way to first change just the initial keyframe in each clip (ie to 4:3) and then automatically change the relative values of all the subsequent pan/crop keyframes to retain the movement from the originals but the format from the amended clip.

Methinks that ain't gonna happen - and I've now got a headache just trying to figure it out all for the sake of a feeble gag!

Thanks again for your help.

Ian . . .

Edward Troxel · January 9th, 2004, 09:09 PM

You could save the first keyframe as a preset and then you could quickly set the first keyframe of the other events to that preset. However, you'd have to do them one at a time.

Edward Troxel · January 9th, 2004, 09:11 PM

Here's a request from Douglas Spotted Eagle:

Hey gang,
I've been asked to do another book on Vegas, this one will be graphically oriented (lotsa pics, less text) and so I wanted to invite you all to comment on what you'd like to know more about, or like to see spelled out in tutorial formatting. This will be a smaller book, about half the price of the 'big book' and I'd prefer to not have it be quite as basic as some of the bigger book is.

Please drop me a line if you've got any specific ideas or requests. I found the last book much easier to do with input from you all.

DSE (known to my friends as Spot)

Chris Harvey · January 9th, 2004, 09:42 PM

I am trying to join several mpeg2 clips into one large mpeg2 clip. Can I do this quickly without Vegas re-rendering all the clips?

Thanks,

Chris

Dylan Couper · January 9th, 2004, 10:10 PM

I think it would be interesting to have a section specificaly on film-look techniques. Seems to be one of the more common questions here.

Edward Troxel · January 9th, 2004, 10:27 PM

You'll have to use a program such as TMPGenc. Maybe VirtualDub.

Randy Stewart · January 10th, 2004, 12:33 AM

Here's my input. I prefer to work through an exercise for each major function of the software. Identify the function, describe how it can/should be used, then take the reader through a step-by-step exercise. Areas that I would like to see covered are: color correction, audio noise reduction, music creation, multi-camera video track setup, fancy titling, use of FX's and plug-ins (3D for instance). For a special chapter, recommend equipment for sound recording for the new videographer with a very modest budget and maybe some outlines for shooting weddings (checklist, shots to get, script for editing, etc. I'd like to use this book as a reference manual next to my editing machine that I could tab for quick reference to the best way to accomplish a function. I've read a lot of software books but the ones I use most are the ones that have a step-by-step procedure for how to do a specific thing. Sure would like that for Vegas. Thanks for asking and looking forward to anything Spot puts out. I have his last book and re-read it often to get parts that I missed. Good stuff! Keep it coming.
Randy

Rob Lohman · January 10th, 2004, 07:24 AM

There also seems to be a freeware program called MPEG2Cut
that claims to be able to join them. Even the source code is
available for it.

For TMPGEnc follow this route: File > MPEGTools > Merge&Cut

Rob Lohman · January 10th, 2004, 07:41 AM

First of all I always like a book if it has some reference quality. Ie,
you can go back to it when you are looking for some answers.

That being said I like some more insights into combining various
filters and whatnot to create a new effect and learn what all
those powerful things can do COMBINED!

Like there was once a tip to slow the footage down and add
some motion blur I think to get some total new look. Etc., you
get the idea.

I think color correction is important and all of the MAJOR filters.
Also animation perhaps and audio tools.

Michael Wisniewski · January 10th, 2004, 08:19 AM

I'd like to see something similar in concept to the The Photoshop 7 Wow! Book.

Douglas Spotted Eagle · January 10th, 2004, 10:34 AM

Michael,
The Photoshop WOW! Book is similar in design, but we won't have color in this one. We want to keep the book low-cost. But you've got the closest idea.
Thanks everyone for the input! I had no idea this forum had grown so large and was here!

Douglas Spotted Eagle · January 10th, 2004, 10:40 AM

Michael, Thanks for posting the link. There are actually nearly 100 tutorials on our Sundance site, plus nearly 200 veg files and scripts. We don't have forums or anything like that, just training materials that stem from our VASST training tours.
http://www.sundancemediagroup.com/help/kb gets you to the Vegas training materials.
http://www.sundancemediagroup.com/help/kb/ulead gets you to the Ulead training materials. Lots on Cool 3D Production studio and DVD Workshop up there.

Michael Wisniewski · January 10th, 2004, 04:44 PM

That's great, sounds like a continuation of the 4th DVD in your set where you started showing how it all worked together.

If it's feasible, I'd also pay extra for a DVD with you giving an overview or walk-through of the different projects & sections in the book.

Either as a supplement to the book or as a separate DVD product.

January 9th, 2004, 02:36 PM	#46
Ian Stark Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,237	Is it possible to apply pan/crop to multiple clips? Hi all. I'm not in front of my editing pc now so I can't test this out for myself. Can anyone tell me whether it is possible to apply the same pan & crop settings to multiple clips in one hit (ie without having to edit each clip's pan & crop keyframes). I have copied and pasted a whole load of stills from three .veg files, two of which are at at 16:9, into a new project which is at 4:3. I had used pan and crop in the original projects to give the stills a sense of motion and it all looked great. But, of course, now they're in a 4:3 project I have a framing problem (ie losing the top and bottom of each image) which I want to get rid of! Rather than go through each clip separately, is it possible to apply a 4:3 pan & crop to all them together? I think that makes sense! Any help appreciated! Thanks. Ian . . .

January 9th, 2004, 09:11 PM	#50
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Book Info Request Here's a request from Douglas Spotted Eagle: Hey gang, I've been asked to do another book on Vegas, this one will be graphically oriented (lotsa pics, less text) and so I wanted to invite you all to comment on what you'd like to know more about, or like to see spelled out in tutorial formatting. This will be a smaller book, about half the price of the 'big book' and I'd prefer to not have it be quite as basic as some of the bigger book is. Please drop me a line if you've got any specific ideas or requests. I found the last book much easier to do with input from you all. DSE (known to my friends as Spot)

January 9th, 2004, 09:42 PM	#51
Chris Harvey Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: North Dakota Posts: 72	How can I join several mpeg2 clips without re-rendering? I am trying to join several mpeg2 clips into one large mpeg2 clip. Can I do this quickly without Vegas re-rendering all the clips? Thanks, Chris

January 9th, 2004, 10:10 PM	#52
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	I think it would be interesting to have a section specificaly on film-look techniques. Seems to be one of the more common questions here. __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

January 10th, 2004, 07:24 AM	#55
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	There also seems to be a freeware program called MPEG2Cut that claims to be able to join them. Even the source code is available for it. For TMPGEnc follow this route: File > MPEGTools > Merge&Cut __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

January 9th, 2004, 04:31 PM	#47
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Yes. Just "copy" the first one, select the rest and choose "Paste Attributes"

January 9th, 2004, 05:57 PM	#48
Ian Stark Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,237	Of course. How stupid. Thanks for the friendly reminder, Edward! Now, what would be really handy is a way to first change just the initial keyframe in each clip (ie to 4:3) and then automatically change the relative values of all the subsequent pan/crop keyframes to retain the movement from the originals but the format from the amended clip. Methinks that ain't gonna happen - and I've now got a headache just trying to figure it out all for the sake of a feeble gag! Thanks again for your help. Ian . . .

January 9th, 2004, 09:09 PM	#49
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	You could save the first keyframe as a preset and then you could quickly set the first keyframe of the other events to that preset. However, you'd have to do them one at a time.

January 9th, 2004, 10:27 PM	#53
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	You'll have to use a program such as TMPGenc. Maybe VirtualDub.

January 10th, 2004, 12:33 AM	#54
Randy Stewart Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hooper, UT Posts: 177	Here's my input. I prefer to work through an exercise for each major function of the software. Identify the function, describe how it can/should be used, then take the reader through a step-by-step exercise. Areas that I would like to see covered are: color correction, audio noise reduction, music creation, multi-camera video track setup, fancy titling, use of FX's and plug-ins (3D for instance). For a special chapter, recommend equipment for sound recording for the new videographer with a very modest budget and maybe some outlines for shooting weddings (checklist, shots to get, script for editing, etc. I'd like to use this book as a reference manual next to my editing machine that I could tab for quick reference to the best way to accomplish a function. I've read a lot of software books but the ones I use most are the ones that have a step-by-step procedure for how to do a specific thing. Sure would like that for Vegas. Thanks for asking and looking forward to anything Spot puts out. I have his last book and re-read it often to get parts that I missed. Good stuff! Keep it coming. Randy

January 10th, 2004, 07:41 AM	#56
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	First of all I always like a book if it has some reference quality. Ie, you can go back to it when you are looking for some answers. That being said I like some more insights into combining various filters and whatnot to create a new effect and learn what all those powerful things can do COMBINED! Like there was once a tip to slow the footage down and add some motion blur I think to get some total new look. Etc., you get the idea. I think color correction is important and all of the MAJOR filters. Also animation perhaps and audio tools. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

January 10th, 2004, 08:19 AM	#57
Michael Wisniewski Wrangler Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Makati, Metro Manila Posts: 2,706 Images: 32	I'd like to see something similar in concept to the The Photoshop 7 Wow! Book.

January 10th, 2004, 10:34 AM	#58
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	New Book Michael, The Photoshop WOW! Book is similar in design, but we won't have color in this one. We want to keep the book low-cost. But you've got the closest idea. Thanks everyone for the input! I had no idea this forum had grown so large and was here! __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

January 10th, 2004, 10:40 AM	#59
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	Star Wars Effect Michael, Thanks for posting the link. There are actually nearly 100 tutorials on our Sundance site, plus nearly 200 veg files and scripts. We don't have forums or anything like that, just training materials that stem from our VASST training tours. http://www.sundancemediagroup.com/help/kb gets you to the Vegas training materials. http://www.sundancemediagroup.com/help/kb/ulead gets you to the Ulead training materials. Lots on Cool 3D Production studio and DVD Workshop up there. __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

January 10th, 2004, 04:44 PM	#60
Michael Wisniewski Wrangler Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Makati, Metro Manila Posts: 2,706 Images: 32	That's great, sounds like a continuation of the 4th DVD in your set where you started showing how it all worked together. If it's feasible, I'd also pay extra for a DVD with you giving an overview or walk-through of the different projects & sections in the book. Either as a supplement to the book or as a separate DVD product.