Vegas Video discussions from 2004 (Q1Q2)

Rob Lohman · February 25th, 2004, 05:12 PM

They are looking pretty decent, but I think they might work a bit
better with a blue cast added? Also the sky left in picture 3 is
not really convincing. It looks more like dawn now or something
(if that's the look you want, that's okay, ofcourse).

Bryan Roberts · February 25th, 2004, 05:41 PM

Funny, on my monitor they look very blue. I thought the whole function of the night filter was that it made the picture very dark and heightened the blue? I see what you're saying about the dawn look, it's like the sun is just starting to come up, I guess I'll have to avoid sky shots in the day for night shooting as I've read in many posts.

Stephen Warriner · February 25th, 2004, 07:00 PM

Did you apply color curves, the night preset and tweak the blue channel to your liking?

Tom Kronberg · February 26th, 2004, 04:37 AM

This is probably because I'm using the demo, but I was hoping someone would be kind enough to confirm for me this before I buy and realize I have a problem.
Sony's site about the demo says this

"watermarks both the video and audio of all rendered files
has a two minute maximum for play/record
does not allow batch capturing "

But what I'm seeing is two things: Every five to ten seconds the screen goes black with a red x on it. After that the render will freeze motion for a second. I'm wondering if this is the "watermark" they are euphimistically reffering to?

Also I am using hundreds of stills to render time lapse... I thought I had bad jpegs at first but that's not the case. I'm about to buy Vegas I just want to make sure that's what the problem is, the "watermark", and not a bug of some sort.
So if anyone knows this through experience with the demo, tha would definitely put my mind at ease.
Thanks.

Edit: Found it is indeed the watermark at Sony's Vegas forums.

Rob Lohman · February 26th, 2004, 06:14 AM

It should be the watermark indeed. I've never seen it happen
in the full version myself.

Edward Troxel · February 26th, 2004, 09:05 AM

I'm not sure why the motion would freeze but I'm sure the red X is the watermark.

Edward Troxel · February 26th, 2004, 11:29 AM

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Brad Higerd · February 26th, 2004, 12:20 PM

Sorry to take so long to reply. Undersampling worked great. Thanks again.

Law Tyler · February 26th, 2004, 01:37 PM

Well, I am thinking pretty sound, we are going to have to go widescreen.

HD720-24p maybe? 720x1280 24p, probably look really good on today's widescreen TV.

(Vegas has setting for up to HD1080-24p, 1080x1920)

But then in the DVD Architecture side, it only have 480x720 30fps, the standard DV in widescreen. What gives?

Surely the modern widescreen TV can display more than 480x720? Why.. my DV converted to widescreen looked bad, hence it must at least take 720x1280 to use it, and perhaps even up to 1080x1920.

I guess we need a 2nd version of the Architecture to burn better widescreen DVD.

OK, ok, I need to go dig around and read up...

Edward Troxel · February 26th, 2004, 01:56 PM

Good to hear. I thought that would help in your situation.

Edward Troxel · February 26th, 2004, 01:58 PM

Let us know what you discover!

Bob Benkosky · February 26th, 2004, 04:23 PM

The funny thing is, that Boris is kinda like after effects, but Vegas is nothing like premier at all.

Boris is powerful so when you apply an effect to Vegas, Vegas sometimes cannot preview that section in real-time, especially if it's really complicated. You can watch it in Boris, slowly, like in After Effects, but yea, it's cool to work with Boris. You always have to manually set the length of how long you want the effect to go on for, which is dumb. It should be as long as the clip you are applying it to but it doesn't exactly integrate into Vegas how the Vegas plug-ins do. You launch Boris, then when you have your desired effect you close down Boris and hit save as you exit. Then it's setting is imported into Vegas. Took me awhile just to figure that out.

Emre Safak · February 26th, 2004, 04:42 PM

Thanks for the help, gentlemen.

Peter Moore · February 26th, 2004, 04:50 PM

You're confusing 720x480 (DVD resolution), with 1280x720 (HDTV resolution). DVD Architect can't by definition support more than 720x480.

Edward, are you being facetious? :)

Magnus Helander · February 26th, 2004, 05:43 PM

The Matrox parhelia 128 card can make any of the three possible displays "primary". I've spent three days (and nights) to find out that on my system changing "primary display" from the default to another display (using properties/settings/advanced/"Make this display primary") will freeze vegas randomly at program launch.

Vegas shows up in the task manager as a process utilizing 50% CPU, but will not launch beyond the splash screen.

Can anyone with a parhelia card reproduce this? No fear - changing the default display back to "primary" will resolve the problem, and you can kill the vegas40.exe process from the task manager.

/magnus

February 25th, 2004, 05:12 PM	#526
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	They are looking pretty decent, but I think they might work a bit better with a blue cast added? Also the sky left in picture 3 is not really convincing. It looks more like dawn now or something (if that's the look you want, that's okay, ofcourse). __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

February 25th, 2004, 07:00 PM	#528
Stephen Warriner New Boot Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Edgartown, MA Posts: 10	Night Did you apply color curves, the night preset and tweak the blue channel to your liking?

February 26th, 2004, 04:37 AM	#529
Tom Kronberg Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 25	Renders black screen. This is probably because I'm using the demo, but I was hoping someone would be kind enough to confirm for me this before I buy and realize I have a problem. Sony's site about the demo says this "watermarks both the video and audio of all rendered files has a two minute maximum for play/record does not allow batch capturing " But what I'm seeing is two things: Every five to ten seconds the screen goes black with a red x on it. After that the render will freeze motion for a second. I'm wondering if this is the "watermark" they are euphimistically reffering to? Also I am using hundreds of stills to render time lapse... I thought I had bad jpegs at first but that's not the case. I'm about to buy Vegas I just want to make sure that's what the problem is, the "watermark", and not a bug of some sort. So if anyone knows this through experience with the demo, tha would definitely put my mind at ease. Thanks. Edit: Found it is indeed the watermark at Sony's Vegas forums.

February 26th, 2004, 06:14 AM	#530
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	It should be the watermark indeed. I've never seen it happen in the full version myself. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

February 26th, 2004, 11:29 AM	#532
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Vasst Anyone going to the Acid or Surround Sound VASST classes in Atlanta? VASST Training Tours

February 25th, 2004, 05:41 PM	#527
Bryan Roberts Major Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 436	Funny, on my monitor they look very blue. I thought the whole function of the night filter was that it made the picture very dark and heightened the blue? I see what you're saying about the dawn look, it's like the sun is just starting to come up, I guess I'll have to avoid sky shots in the day for night shooting as I've read in many posts.

February 26th, 2004, 09:05 AM	#531
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	I'm not sure why the motion would freeze but I'm sure the red X is the watermark.

February 26th, 2004, 12:20 PM	#533
Brad Higerd Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 186	Sorry to take so long to reply. Undersampling worked great. Thanks again.

February 26th, 2004, 01:37 PM	#534
Law Tyler Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 204	HD1080-24p DVD? Well, I am thinking pretty sound, we are going to have to go widescreen. HD720-24p maybe? 720x1280 24p, probably look really good on today's widescreen TV. (Vegas has setting for up to HD1080-24p, 1080x1920) But then in the DVD Architecture side, it only have 480x720 30fps, the standard DV in widescreen. What gives? Surely the modern widescreen TV can display more than 480x720? Why.. my DV converted to widescreen looked bad, hence it must at least take 720x1280 to use it, and perhaps even up to 1080x1920. I guess we need a 2nd version of the Architecture to burn better widescreen DVD. OK, ok, I need to go dig around and read up...

February 26th, 2004, 01:56 PM	#535
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Good to hear. I thought that would help in your situation.

February 26th, 2004, 01:58 PM	#536
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Let us know what you discover!

February 26th, 2004, 04:23 PM	#537
Bob Benkosky Major Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lake Park, Florida Posts: 202	The funny thing is, that Boris is kinda like after effects, but Vegas is nothing like premier at all. Boris is powerful so when you apply an effect to Vegas, Vegas sometimes cannot preview that section in real-time, especially if it's really complicated. You can watch it in Boris, slowly, like in After Effects, but yea, it's cool to work with Boris. You always have to manually set the length of how long you want the effect to go on for, which is dumb. It should be as long as the clip you are applying it to but it doesn't exactly integrate into Vegas how the Vegas plug-ins do. You launch Boris, then when you have your desired effect you close down Boris and hit save as you exit. Then it's setting is imported into Vegas. Took me awhile just to figure that out. __________________ http://www.veoh.com/channels/filmmaker My clips and films.

February 26th, 2004, 04:42 PM	#538
Emre Safak Trustee Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brookline, MA Posts: 1,447	Thanks for the help, gentlemen.

February 26th, 2004, 04:50 PM	#539
Peter Moore Trustee Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Arlington VA Posts: 1,034	You're confusing 720x480 (DVD resolution), with 1280x720 (HDTV resolution). DVD Architect can't by definition support more than 720x480. Edward, are you being facetious? :)

February 26th, 2004, 05:43 PM	#540
Magnus Helander Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 221	Vegas/Parhelia on XP - do not change primary display, vegas freezes randomly The Matrox parhelia 128 card can make any of the three possible displays "primary". I've spent three days (and nights) to find out that on my system changing "primary display" from the default to another display (using properties/settings/advanced/"Make this display primary") will freeze vegas randomly at program launch. Vegas shows up in the task manager as a process utilizing 50% CPU, but will not launch beyond the splash screen. Can anyone with a parhelia card reproduce this? No fear - changing the default display back to "primary" will resolve the problem, and you can kill the vegas40.exe process from the task manager. /magnus __________________ Magnus Helander, Crossmediageek on G+