Vegas Video discussions from 2004 (Q1Q2)

Glen Elliott · February 19th, 2004, 08:33 AM

http://www.sharbor.com/build-yours/vegas/

Edward Troxel · February 19th, 2004, 10:05 AM

Cool. Maybe they should include a copy of Tsunami with each one! I also find it interesting the Vegas is listed under "Video Editing Card"

Graham Bernard · February 19th, 2004, 10:55 AM

Edward! You didn't tell me you were into PC building - as well?!?! - "With every copy of our new Editing tool for Vegas you get a Free PC!" Edward, don't know HOW you do it - honest?!?!

Grazie

Imran Zaidi · February 19th, 2004, 10:57 AM

I can't seem to customize the dern prices... I keep getting 0.00. Does this mean I get one for free?

Edward Troxel · February 19th, 2004, 11:35 AM

But, Grazie, then I'd have to charge over $3000 for Tsunami instead of $30 :-)

Imran, maybe you should call and ask them if they're free? After all, that's what the website said! :-)

(ps. if they are, I'll take one!)

Marcia Janine Galles · February 19th, 2004, 11:43 AM

Couple things... I'm doing something screwy here, and can't figure out what.

a) On an over exposed shot, when I adjust to make everything look richer, the dress on one young woman changes shades and becomes too blue. I dropped on the secondary color correct to isolate her dress, and couldn't get the "show Mask" to do anything/show up so I could extend the range to get the parts in both the shade and the sun. I've used "show mask" successfully before but can't figure out what I toggled on/off this particular time around. I removed the effect, tried again. Nothing. I checked the preview FX window, but that wasn't it. Restarted Vegas and "show mask" worked fine. What do I look for that I might be doing wrong or have accidentally hit/turned on when that happens?

b) When applying effects that are meant to last for the duration of the event, as opposed to the frame I'm parked on (which I'm using to spot for the changes I'm making) if I set an in/out point shouldn't it "take" for that whole section? Not sure why I'm seeing changes in the numbers over time as the clip plays. (sigh)

Edward Troxel · February 19th, 2004, 12:13 PM

Not sure about your first problem. You may want to try soloing that track. Or maybe check the split screen options?

For the second one, you have to set the proper keyframes. Apparently you have two keyframes on the keyframe timeline. What you are seeing is it changing gradually from the values in the first keyframe to the values in the second keyframe. If you don't want the values to change, make sure both keyframes are the same (copy the first one and paste it on the second one, for example).

Glen Elliott · February 19th, 2004, 12:13 PM

Yeah someone should put ALL the options on and go ahead and order it. Make printouts and copies for your records and when they try and bill your credit card $6,000 contest that the website stated it was $0.

Seriously though they are probably ashamed to post their prices- they are sky high. I can build the same thing for literally half the price. That's some major overhead!

Joe Sacher · February 19th, 2004, 01:09 PM

It doesn't look like the card would automatically be charged anything but the $20 shipping. But that is sad. I built a system much better than those, a month and a half ago, for less than half of what they are charging.

David Ho · February 19th, 2004, 03:56 PM

I am wondering does Vegas support GL2's frame movie mode footage? I've heard they support 24P, but dunno about the frame movie mode....

Another question is that I notice in Vegas, you open new footage that is 24P or regular NTSC which is the 29.97fps... What happens if you DO use frame movie mode on the GL2 or other camcorder, then try to save/open as 29.97fps or 24fps? This might be one of those FAQs....

Edward Troxel · February 19th, 2004, 04:10 PM

Just treat it normally. Capture normally, edit normally, and print normally.

Andre Andreev · February 19th, 2004, 04:22 PM

This is the most successfull set of preferences I've used for exporting to quicktime. Please share yours.

http://www.instantclassic.org/ftp/we...tings-main.gif
http://www.instantclassic.org/ftp/we...ings-video.gif
http://www.instantclassic.org/ftp/we...ings-audio.gif
http://www.instantclassic.org/ftp/we...-streaming.gif

-- Andre

Don Donatello · February 19th, 2004, 07:19 PM

Vegas usually knows the clip is frame mode. it plays it back same as any 29.97 clip ( interlace). from vegas explorer you can highlight a clip and vegas will give you the clips specs below IE:720x480x24, 29.97fps then it will say either interlace or progressive ( frame mode).

you can set up your project properties as 24fps .. then vegas will delete frames/fields during play back so it equals 24fps. frame mode usually comes out quite "jerkey" played back as 24fps.

Jasper Jones · February 19th, 2004, 09:25 PM

Bump

Has anyone else used this book? I'm thinking of ordering it from Amazon ( http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...703569-1419869 ) but I'm not sure if I should. Is it very helpful for someone totally new to Vegas and somewhat new to working with video?

Edward Troxel · February 19th, 2004, 10:29 PM

Yes, it is a good book. So are all of the other resources mentioned in this thread.

I can definitely recommend the book and DVDs by Douglas Spotted Eagle as well as the DVDs by Gary Kleiner. Also look at my newsletters mentioned above.

February 19th, 2004, 08:33 AM	#451
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	Edward- I thought you'd get a kick out of this.... http://www.sharbor.com/build-yours/vegas/

February 19th, 2004, 11:43 AM	#456
Marcia Janine Galles Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Camarillo, CA Posts: 340	Secondary Color Correct questions Couple things... I'm doing something screwy here, and can't figure out what. a) On an over exposed shot, when I adjust to make everything look richer, the dress on one young woman changes shades and becomes too blue. I dropped on the secondary color correct to isolate her dress, and couldn't get the "show Mask" to do anything/show up so I could extend the range to get the parts in both the shade and the sun. I've used "show mask" successfully before but can't figure out what I toggled on/off this particular time around. I removed the effect, tried again. Nothing. I checked the preview FX window, but that wasn't it. Restarted Vegas and "show mask" worked fine. What do I look for that I might be doing wrong or have accidentally hit/turned on when that happens? b) When applying effects that are meant to last for the duration of the event, as opposed to the frame I'm parked on (which I'm using to spot for the changes I'm making) if I set an in/out point shouldn't it "take" for that whole section? Not sure why I'm seeing changes in the numbers over time as the clip plays. (sigh)

February 19th, 2004, 03:56 PM	#460
David Ho Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 354	Does Vegas support GL2's frame movie mode footage? I am wondering does Vegas support GL2's frame movie mode footage? I've heard they support 24P, but dunno about the frame movie mode.... Another question is that I notice in Vegas, you open new footage that is 24P or regular NTSC which is the 29.97fps... What happens if you DO use frame movie mode on the GL2 or other camcorder, then try to save/open as 29.97fps or 24fps? This might be one of those FAQs.... __________________ "Everyone has a photographic memory. Some just don't have film."

February 19th, 2004, 04:22 PM	#462
Andre Andreev Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 98	My settings for export to quicktime This is the most successfull set of preferences I've used for exporting to quicktime. Please share yours. http://www.instantclassic.org/ftp/we...tings-main.gif http://www.instantclassic.org/ftp/we...ings-video.gif http://www.instantclassic.org/ftp/we...ings-audio.gif http://www.instantclassic.org/ftp/we...-streaming.gif -- Andre

February 19th, 2004, 10:05 AM	#452
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Cool. Maybe they should include a copy of Tsunami with each one! I also find it interesting the Vegas is listed under "Video Editing Card"

February 19th, 2004, 10:55 AM	#453
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	Edward! You didn't tell me you were into PC building - as well?!?! - "*With every copy of our new Editing tool for Vegas you get a Free PC!*" Edward, don't know HOW you do it - honest?!?! Grazie

February 19th, 2004, 10:57 AM	#454
Imran Zaidi Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,315	I can't seem to customize the dern prices... I keep getting 0.00. Does this mean I get one for free?

February 19th, 2004, 11:35 AM	#455
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	But, Grazie, then I'd have to charge over $3000 for Tsunami instead of $30 :-) Imran, maybe you should call and ask them if they're free? After all, that's what the website said! :-) (ps. if they are, I'll take one!)

February 19th, 2004, 12:13 PM	#457
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Not sure about your first problem. You may want to try soloing that track. Or maybe check the split screen options? For the second one, you have to set the proper keyframes. Apparently you have two keyframes on the keyframe timeline. What you are seeing is it changing gradually from the values in the first keyframe to the values in the second keyframe. If you don't want the values to change, make sure both keyframes are the same (copy the first one and paste it on the second one, for example).

February 19th, 2004, 12:13 PM	#458
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	Yeah someone should put ALL the options on and go ahead and order it. Make printouts and copies for your records and when they try and bill your credit card $6,000 contest that the website stated it was $0. Seriously though they are probably ashamed to post their prices- they are sky high. I can build the same thing for literally half the price. That's some major overhead!

February 19th, 2004, 01:09 PM	#459
Joe Sacher Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 177	It doesn't look like the card would automatically be charged anything but the $20 shipping. But that is sad. I built a system much better than those, a month and a half ago, for less than half of what they are charging.

February 19th, 2004, 04:10 PM	#461
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Just treat it normally. Capture normally, edit normally, and print normally.

February 19th, 2004, 07:19 PM	#463
Don Donatello Hawaiian Shirt Mogul Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: northern cailfornia Posts: 1,261	Vegas usually knows the clip is frame mode. it plays it back same as any 29.97 clip ( interlace). from vegas explorer you can highlight a clip and vegas will give you the clips specs below IE:720x480x24, 29.97fps then it will say either interlace or progressive ( frame mode). you can set up your project properties as 24fps .. then vegas will delete frames/fields during play back so it equals 24fps. frame mode usually comes out quite "jerkey" played back as 24fps.

February 19th, 2004, 09:25 PM	#464
Jasper Jones Tourist Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 4	Bump Has anyone else used this book? I'm thinking of ordering it from Amazon ( http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...703569-1419869 ) but I'm not sure if I should. Is it very helpful for someone totally new to Vegas and somewhat new to working with video?

February 19th, 2004, 10:29 PM	#465
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Yes, it is a good book. So are all of the other resources mentioned in this thread. I can definitely recommend the book and DVDs by Douglas Spotted Eagle as well as the DVDs by Gary Kleiner. Also look at my newsletters mentioned above.