Vegas Video discussions from 2004 (Q1Q2)

Paul Rooney · February 16th, 2004, 08:53 PM

Thank you for the quick response. I think I may have found the answer, I found an old post in response to a similiar question on another vegas forum.

I believe I was trying to PTT a MPEG 2 file instead of an AVI file. I will try it in the morning and see if that was the problem.

Thanks,

Paul.

Edward Troxel · February 16th, 2004, 09:20 PM

Trying to PTT an MPEG2 file would simply cause it to render to an AVI file before starting the camera. Since the camera is actually starting, something else is going on. I still suspect camera settings.

Dan Lahav · February 16th, 2004, 11:27 PM

I rendered a bunch of 24pa and 30i footage in after effects. I want to render all the clips in Vegas, but whenever I do, everything looks interlaced. How do I make the entire project progressive?

Mike Moncrief · February 17th, 2004, 01:01 AM

Hello all,
Just a quick question, When I have been using the Text provided in Vegas Media Generator, I have been using a Video Envelope to fade the text in and out... The Text is place in its own video track above the video i am overlaying it on.. Is this the easiest and correct way to do this ?? is there another way??

Thanks,
Mike

Tor Salomonsen · February 17th, 2004, 01:11 AM

With your mouse you can grab an upper corner of the text event (or any event) and pull it in towards the centre. You will see a fade-like icon appearing when you hover on the corner area. Do this with audio, too.

Mike Moncrief · February 17th, 2004, 02:16 AM

Hello,

Thank you Tor, I was not aware of this little goody.. This is a good trick..

Thanks !!!
Mike M.

Rob Lohman · February 17th, 2004, 05:24 AM

Please also see this thread for a fast Vegas introduction
with what does what, keyboard shortcuts etc.

Edward Troxel · February 17th, 2004, 08:13 AM

Yes, the text should be placed on a track above the video. And, as you have seen, there are a variety of ways to accomplish fading in and out. The simplest is to hover over the upper right or upper left edge of the event, get the quarter moon icon, and click and drag toward the center. There are also scripts available that will add the fades for you.

Paul Rooney · February 17th, 2004, 12:05 PM

Well it's working now. The problem was the onboard 1394 port. I installed a Canopus ACEDVIO card and the Preview on Device and PTT both work fine. If I try pluging back into the onboard port, video capture works but not preview or PTT.

Thanks for the quick feedback on the file format issue.

Paul.

Emre Safak · February 17th, 2004, 12:38 PM

I am a beginner and want to know which of these systems I should settle on. Is one suited to certain tasks better than the other? Tentatively I must say I found Vegas 4 more intuitive than Premiere Pro. What are the prospects of Vegas being updated by Sony? I would hate to make a time investment on Vegas if it died at 4.0

I work with DV (software rendering) to make documentaries and short films.

Edward Troxel · February 17th, 2004, 01:10 PM

First of all, which NLE are you more comforatable with? Use the one that suits YOU.

Premiere and After Effects work together quite well. However, Boris integrates directly to the Vegas timeline - you don't even have to switch applications.

Ultimately, you need to try the demos and see what matches your workflow and needs. Besides, the other combinations (Premiere + Boris and Vegas + After Effects) might be a consideration as well.

Edward Troxel · February 17th, 2004, 01:12 PM

Good to hear it's working. What kind of port is the onboard port? Is it, by chance, a VIA chipset? If it is, you may be able to get it working with a driver update.

Scott Brickert · February 17th, 2004, 11:44 PM

I've been doing alot of zooming a 16:9 box onto 4:3 footage to correct for framing errors made by 'Uncle Charlie' (who videotaped a friend's wedding that I was in).

Has anyone found a combination of filters to work around the pixelation that occurs when 'overzoomed'? Maybe some combination of unsharpen mask and gaussian blur?

Scott

Tor Salomonsen · February 18th, 2004, 03:00 AM

Mike,
As a variation on the fade in/out method, try this:
Create a text event. Open pan/crop on the event.
Doubleclick the kreyframe-line at a half second after the beginning and a half second before the end. Now go to the very beginning and pull the frame to your left until the text disappears to the right of the preview window. At the very last point, pull the frame to the right, watch the text disappear to the left in the preview window. Now play the whole thing.

If you make a note of the numbers you get in the Center box when you've pulled the frame, you could just type it it next time, to get an exact repeat of the movement.

Edward Troxel · February 18th, 2004, 09:03 AM

Considering the source, if you zoom in you are losing information. So, there's really very little you can do besides what you've already stated.

February 16th, 2004, 11:27 PM	#438
Dan Lahav Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: CA Posts: 172	Mixing 24pa and 30i footage I rendered a bunch of 24pa and 30i footage in after effects. I want to render all the clips in Vegas, but whenever I do, everything looks interlaced. How do I make the entire project progressive?

February 17th, 2004, 01:01 AM	#439
Mike Moncrief Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: orlando florida Posts: 426	text fade in and out Hello all, Just a quick question, When I have been using the Text provided in Vegas Media Generator, I have been using a Video Envelope to fade the text in and out... The Text is place in its own video track above the video i am overlaying it on.. Is this the easiest and correct way to do this ?? is there another way?? Thanks, Mike __________________ Mike Moncrief mikemoncrief@gmail.com www.themikemoncrief.com

February 17th, 2004, 02:16 AM	#441
Mike Moncrief Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: orlando florida Posts: 426	Hello, Thank you Tor, I was not aware of this little goody.. This is a good trick.. Thanks !!! Mike M. __________________ Mike Moncrief mikemoncrief@gmail.com www.themikemoncrief.com

February 17th, 2004, 05:24 AM	#442
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Please also see this thread for a fast Vegas introduction with what does what, keyboard shortcuts etc. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

February 17th, 2004, 12:38 PM	#445
Emre Safak Trustee Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brookline, MA Posts: 1,447	Vegas 4 with Red 3GL vs. Premiere Pro with After Effects 6? I am a beginner and want to know which of these systems I should settle on. Is one suited to certain tasks better than the other? Tentatively I must say I found Vegas 4 more intuitive than Premiere Pro. What are the prospects of Vegas being updated by Sony? I would hate to make a time investment on Vegas if it died at 4.0 I work with DV (software rendering) to make documentaries and short films.

February 16th, 2004, 08:53 PM	#436
Paul Rooney New Boot Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 6	Thank you for the quick response. I think I may have found the answer, I found an old post in response to a similiar question on another vegas forum. I believe I was trying to PTT a MPEG 2 file instead of an AVI file. I will try it in the morning and see if that was the problem. Thanks, Paul.

February 16th, 2004, 09:20 PM	#437
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Trying to PTT an MPEG2 file would simply cause it to render to an AVI file before starting the camera. Since the camera is actually starting, something else is going on. I still suspect camera settings.

February 17th, 2004, 01:11 AM	#440
Tor Salomonsen Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Stavanger, Norway Posts: 265	With your mouse you can grab an upper corner of the text event (or any event) and pull it in towards the centre. You will see a fade-like icon appearing when you hover on the corner area. Do this with audio, too.

February 17th, 2004, 08:13 AM	#443
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Yes, the text should be placed on a track above the video. And, as you have seen, there are a variety of ways to accomplish fading in and out. The simplest is to hover over the upper right or upper left edge of the event, get the quarter moon icon, and click and drag toward the center. There are also scripts available that will add the fades for you.

February 17th, 2004, 12:05 PM	#444
Paul Rooney New Boot Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 6	Well it's working now. The problem was the onboard 1394 port. I installed a Canopus ACEDVIO card and the Preview on Device and PTT both work fine. If I try pluging back into the onboard port, video capture works but not preview or PTT. Thanks for the quick feedback on the file format issue. Paul.

February 17th, 2004, 01:10 PM	#446
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	First of all, which NLE are you more comforatable with? Use the one that suits YOU. Premiere and After Effects work together quite well. However, Boris integrates directly to the Vegas timeline - you don't even have to switch applications. Ultimately, you need to try the demos and see what matches your workflow and needs. Besides, the other combinations (Premiere + Boris and Vegas + After Effects) might be a consideration as well.

February 17th, 2004, 01:12 PM	#447
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Good to hear it's working. What kind of port is the onboard port? Is it, by chance, a VIA chipset? If it is, you may be able to get it working with a driver update.

February 17th, 2004, 11:44 PM	#448
Scott Brickert Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Crested Butte, CO Posts: 576	zoom limits I've been doing alot of zooming a 16:9 box onto 4:3 footage to correct for framing errors made by 'Uncle Charlie' (who videotaped a friend's wedding that I was in). Has anyone found a combination of filters to work around the pixelation that occurs when 'overzoomed'? Maybe some combination of unsharpen mask and gaussian blur? Scott

February 18th, 2004, 03:00 AM	#449
Tor Salomonsen Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Stavanger, Norway Posts: 265	Mike, As a variation on the fade in/out method, try this: Create a text event. Open pan/crop on the event. Doubleclick the kreyframe-line at a half second after the beginning and a half second before the end. Now go to the very beginning and pull the frame to your left until the text disappears to the right of the preview window. At the very last point, pull the frame to the right, watch the text disappear to the left in the preview window. Now play the whole thing. If you make a note of the numbers you get in the Center box when you've pulled the frame, you could just type it it next time, to get an exact repeat of the movement.

February 18th, 2004, 09:03 AM	#450
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Considering the source, if you zoom in you are losing information. So, there's really very little you can do besides what you've already stated.