Vegas Video discussions from 2004 (Q1Q2)

Don Donatello · February 7th, 2004, 02:56 PM

if the original clips are dv/dvcam 25 .. then ouput from FCP as ntsc Dv/ dvcam ( not dvcpro 50 ) ...

Marcia Janine Galles · February 7th, 2004, 09:30 PM

This controller looks awfully cool, and it just might let me program the buttons to take care of some of the shortcuts I'd like to set up. But do I have to unplug the regular mouse to use it? (The back of my machine is very un-handy.) Would it cause system confusion to have them both plugged in at the same time?

Edward Troxel · February 7th, 2004, 10:29 PM

You can have both the mouse and the shuttle pro attached at the same time. I frequently use the shuttle pro in the left hand while using the mouse in the right hand. It works well with Vegas.

Marcia Janine Galles · February 8th, 2004, 12:02 AM

Great! Thanks, Edward. Again.

Will order one tomorrow.

Rob Lohman · February 8th, 2004, 12:54 PM

Do you have any before and after pictures of footage processed
with it, Mark?

(I've seen the ones on the site, but I'd like to see some in full
resolution of DV footage).

Rob Lohman · February 8th, 2004, 01:33 PM

Also see Edwards review here on the site for more information.

Lars Siden · February 8th, 2004, 02:11 PM

Hi,

When I select multiple files from the media pool Vegas nicely puts in my default crossfade. Now I wonder how to do to add media later and have vegas position my cursor at the right "insert" point so that the new automatic crossfade will look like all others?

... and secondly - where do I see the length ( in time ) for a transistion? ( without trying to read the ruler )

Best regards,

Lazze Z

Graham Bernard · February 8th, 2004, 02:49 PM

See where the transition is? Okay, double click the crossing lines of the trannie, and the the area of transition - its length - will be highlighted. Now look at the bottom far right of the T/L. You will se 3 little timecode readings. The one on the far right is the one the highlighted region covers - the transition. There you can read of the highlighted area - neat eh?

Grazie

Hugh DiMauro · February 8th, 2004, 02:57 PM

I tried reduce INterlace Flicker and i think it works.

Hugh DiMauro · February 8th, 2004, 03:12 PM

Okay, here's dumb question #863: I have interlaced video I want to deinterlace. Please explain to me the difference between the following setups and when to use them:

1) IN FILE/PROJECT PROPERTIES/FIELD ORDER I change the setting to NONE - Progressive Scan (Do I do this to deinterlace the video or is this done with video I have already shot in 30p or 24P? Also, do I set this up prior to capturing or after I capture?)

2) When I right click the clip on the timeline and bring up my PROPERTIES BOX, I check off the box REDUCE INTERLACE FLICKER and also go to the MEDIA TAB and switch FIELD ORDER to PROGRESSIVE. Do I need to do this on each and every clip on the timeline as well as #1? When I do #1 the clip itself still says LOWER FIELD FIRST until I manually change it to PROGRESSIVE.

3) When I render, I choose the CUSTOM TEMPLATE and click PROGRESSIVE.

So then, do I need to do all of the above just to deinterlace my interlaced footage? Do I need to right click every clip and select PROGRESSIVE SCAN? I hope I am making sense to the person asnwering this convoluted question.

Paul Rooney · February 8th, 2004, 04:51 PM

Hi all, I'm a complete Newbie here and am in the process of putting together my first video editing rig.

Has anyone purchased the Canopus ACEDVIO/Vegas 4 bundle? If so did it come with a full version of Vegas or a stripped down version?

It seems like a great deal, you get Vegas 4 as well as dv and analog in/out capability. It just looked like "too good" of a deal to me and that always makes me wonder.......

Thanks for any input.

Paul.

Magnus Helander · February 8th, 2004, 05:18 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Graham Bernard : The one on the far right is the one the highlighted region covers - the transition. There you can read of the highlighted area - neat eh?

Grazie -->>>

I'm not at the editing box right now so I'm not sure, but I think you can also double-click the time indicator for highlighted area (transition time) and enter a specific time for the transition... does it change the transition/crossfade or just the selection?

/magnus

Graham Bernard · February 8th, 2004, 06:18 PM

The latter - :-(

Grazie

Guy Bruner · February 8th, 2004, 06:26 PM

Hugh,

1) You only need to do this for video you have shot in progressive or frame mode. (e.g., video that is already deinterlaced). You set this up after you have pulled the clip(s) to the timeline. Open File/Properties and set the Field Order to (None) Progressvie Scan.

2) If you are going to deinterlace all your clips, you don't have to do this.

3) Yes. This will deinterlace all the clips on the timeline.

No, you don't have to select every clip. Number 3 will do it for you.

Don Donatello · February 8th, 2004, 07:29 PM

you mention interlace , 24p & 30p ....

you want to deinterlace the 60i clips ?
and you want to take 60i to 30p ? or 24P (24fps) ? or 24p (29.97with pull down)?

OR are you mixing 60i , 24p , 30p in a 29.97 project ?

are the 24p clips in the TL as 24fps (without pulldown) or are they in TL as 29.97 (with pull down) ???

and the final render wil be to 24fps clip or 29.97 clip??

February 7th, 2004, 09:30 PM	#317
Marcia Janine Galles Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Camarillo, CA Posts: 340	Shuttle Pro question This controller looks awfully cool, and it just might let me program the buttons to take care of some of the shortcuts I'd like to set up. But do I have to unplug the regular mouse to use it? (The back of my machine is very un-handy.) Would it cause system confusion to have them both plugged in at the same time?

February 8th, 2004, 12:54 PM	#320
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Do you have any before and after pictures of footage processed with it, Mark? (I've seen the ones on the site, but I'd like to see some in full resolution of DV footage). __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

February 8th, 2004, 01:33 PM	#321
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Also see Edwards review here on the site for more information. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

February 8th, 2004, 02:11 PM	#322
Lars Siden Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sweden, Stockholm Posts: 469	Automatic crossfade is nice...but ;-) Hi, When I select multiple files from the media pool Vegas nicely puts in my default crossfade. Now I wonder how to do to add media later and have vegas position my cursor at the right "insert" point so that the new automatic crossfade will look like all others? ... and secondly - where do I see the length ( in time ) for a transistion? ( without trying to read the ruler ) Best regards, Lazze Z __________________ Sony HDR-CX130,Canon 5DMKII,i7 930@4.0, 12gb memory, 3x SSD + 2x1Tb(stripe), Geforce 480, Dual 24", Win 7 x64

February 8th, 2004, 02:49 PM	#323
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	Easy!! See where the transition is? Okay, double click the crossing lines of the trannie, and the the area of transition - its length - will be highlighted. Now look at the bottom far right of the T/L. You will se 3 little timecode readings. The one on the far right is the one the highlighted region covers - the transition. There you can read of the highlighted area - neat eh? Grazie

February 7th, 2004, 02:56 PM	#316
Don Donatello Hawaiian Shirt Mogul Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: northern cailfornia Posts: 1,261	if the original clips are dv/dvcam 25 .. then ouput from FCP as ntsc Dv/ dvcam ( not dvcpro 50 ) ...

February 7th, 2004, 10:29 PM	#318
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	You can have both the mouse and the shuttle pro attached at the same time. I frequently use the shuttle pro in the left hand while using the mouse in the right hand. It works well with Vegas.

February 8th, 2004, 12:02 AM	#319
Marcia Janine Galles Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Camarillo, CA Posts: 340	Great! Thanks, Edward. Again. Will order one tomorrow.

February 8th, 2004, 02:57 PM	#324
Hugh DiMauro Trustee Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,207	Thanks I tried reduce INterlace Flicker and i think it works.

February 8th, 2004, 03:12 PM	#325
Hugh DiMauro Trustee Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,207	Yet ANOTHER Vegas Deinterlace Question Okay, here's dumb question #863: I have interlaced video I want to deinterlace. Please explain to me the difference between the following setups and when to use them: 1) IN FILE/PROJECT PROPERTIES/FIELD ORDER I change the setting to NONE - Progressive Scan (Do I do this to deinterlace the video or is this done with video I have already shot in 30p or 24P? Also, do I set this up prior to capturing or after I capture?) 2) When I right click the clip on the timeline and bring up my PROPERTIES BOX, I check off the box REDUCE INTERLACE FLICKER and also go to the MEDIA TAB and switch FIELD ORDER to PROGRESSIVE. Do I need to do this on each and every clip on the timeline as well as #1? When I do #1 the clip itself still says LOWER FIELD FIRST until I manually change it to PROGRESSIVE. 3) When I render, I choose the CUSTOM TEMPLATE and click PROGRESSIVE. So then, do I need to do all of the above just to deinterlace my interlaced footage? Do I need to right click every clip and select PROGRESSIVE SCAN? I hope I am making sense to the person asnwering this convoluted question.

February 8th, 2004, 04:51 PM	#326
Paul Rooney New Boot Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 6	Does the AVEDVIO come with the full version of Vegas? Hi all, I'm a complete Newbie here and am in the process of putting together my first video editing rig. Has anyone purchased the Canopus ACEDVIO/Vegas 4 bundle? If so did it come with a full version of Vegas or a stripped down version? It seems like a great deal, you get Vegas 4 as well as dv and analog in/out capability. It just looked like "too good" of a deal to me and that always makes me wonder....... Thanks for any input. Paul.

February 8th, 2004, 05:18 PM	#327
Magnus Helander Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 221	Re: Easy!! <<<-- Originally posted by Graham Bernard : The one on the far right is the one the highlighted region covers - the transition. There you can read of the highlighted area - neat eh? Grazie -->>> I'm not at the editing box right now so I'm not sure, but I think you can also double-click the time indicator for highlighted area (transition time) and enter a specific time for the transition... does it change the transition/crossfade or just the selection? /magnus __________________ Magnus Helander, Crossmediageek on G+

February 8th, 2004, 06:18 PM	#328
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	The latter - :-( Grazie

February 8th, 2004, 06:26 PM	#329
Guy Bruner Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ashford, AL Posts: 937	Hugh, 1) You only need to do this for video you have shot in progressive or frame mode. (e.g., video that is already deinterlaced). You set this up after you have pulled the clip(s) to the timeline. Open File/Properties and set the Field Order to (None) Progressvie Scan. 2) If you are going to deinterlace all your clips, you don't have to do this. 3) Yes. This will deinterlace all the clips on the timeline. No, you don't have to select every clip. Number 3 will do it for you.

February 8th, 2004, 07:29 PM	#330
Don Donatello Hawaiian Shirt Mogul Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: northern cailfornia Posts: 1,261	you mention interlace , 24p & 30p .... you want to deinterlace the 60i clips ? and you want to take 60i to 30p ? or 24P (24fps) ? or 24p (29.97with pull down)? OR are you mixing 60i , 24p , 30p in a 29.97 project ? are the 24p clips in the TL as 24fps (without pulldown) or are they in TL as 29.97 (with pull down) ??? and the final render wil be to 24fps clip or 29.97 clip??