Vegas Video discussions from 2004 (Q1Q2)

Dan Lahav · February 6th, 2004, 02:14 PM

Thanks for your help guys! Looks like i can use vegas after all :)

Edward Troxel · February 6th, 2004, 02:17 PM

Boris RED
Boris FX
Boris Graffiti

I just gave a large list of links in this thread

Edward Troxel · February 6th, 2004, 02:26 PM

Since you have Vegas, you may want to consider DVD Architect.

Gints Klimanis · February 6th, 2004, 06:14 PM

Edward,

Thank you for releasing the beta RC3 version of your film look plugin. Pretty cool.

Dan Lahav · February 6th, 2004, 07:35 PM

since After Effects doesnt support the 24p pulldown, do i have to import my footage into Vegas, apply the pulldown, save AVI's and then edit like normal in After Effects? I'm a newbie so excuse me if i dont know what im talking about. Thanks.

Robert Knecht Schmidt · February 6th, 2004, 07:38 PM

This thread may be of help.

According to this, Vegas drops frames to achieve 24p.

Dan Lahav · February 6th, 2004, 07:54 PM

perhaps i should clarify... the video will be shot at 24pA with my DVX100

Paul Colt · February 6th, 2004, 09:52 PM

I love vegas because its so rock solid and PPro does have crash issues. Actually a lot of my clients for the wedding videos I do love the cheesy wedding transitions and since I'm always juggling 10 clients at once its a lot easier popping in some pre-made trans then having to spend hours making one. You can't tell me you never use a simple cross dissolve? Of course in my corporate videos I never bother with trans either.

Edward Troxel · February 6th, 2004, 10:04 PM

I CAN say that 99.9% of my wedding transitions are crossfades. Very rarely I'll use a flash transition and even more rarely something like a page curl.

Edward Troxel · February 6th, 2004, 10:08 PM

No problem. Also thanks to Dave ("filmy") for creating the install program and looks.

Paul Colt · February 6th, 2004, 11:25 PM

Yeah I use about 80 percent fades, then a lot of quick cuts, I like to use an imaginative trans at title sequences for small vignettes I produce inside the project. I think just sticking to one thing throughtout ie direct cuts makes the wedding video a bit boring. I try to make it like an action video when producing a wedding, I want people to want to watch it more then once as in most weddings all people want to see is the rings, kiss, and the crazy drunken dancing at the end. How many of your own friends have you tortured with your own wedding video, not people want to watch you greet your ten thousand cousins!? Of course it starts with good shots!

Mark A. Foley · February 7th, 2004, 05:38 AM

First off, this maybe somewhat old news...but maybe it may not be for others.

I shoot with a XL1s and at times due to no control over lighting (weddings...etc), the footage is less than ideal. Vegas does a fairly good job getting rid of the video noise...but in spite of NUMEROUS configurations, I never got the "Look" I desired. Well... I finally found a somewhat simple process to REALLY clean up less-than-ideal lighted footage and give it a unique look.

I simply frame serve out to Virtual dub and
use Donald Graft's Smart Smooth Filter (http://neuron2.net/). Try it...you may be blown away as I was the first time using it.....

Robert Knecht Schmidt · February 7th, 2004, 06:12 AM

Donald's got some nice papers archived in the Library of his site.

Those looking for the filters will find them under the Mine section. (It took me a few minutes to figure this out.)

Marcia Janine Galles · February 7th, 2004, 10:50 AM

Is anybody familiar with which Quicktime settings are best for importing into Vegas? I'm attempting to rebuild a project from FCP and would like to lay a Quicktime output from FCP under the EDL I already brought in, to use as my guide tracks for laying in the Vegas media files.

When doing a Quicktime output from FCP the optional settings include everything from "video" to Uncompressed (8 bit or 10 bit) to MPEG-4 to Sorenson Video (reg or 3) to DV/DVCPRO - NTSC, and more.

Thing is, I may just use it as a guide track then chuck it, in which case the settings are all that critical, but there is one piece of footage that I'd thrown into this project from a tape that I can't find, in which case, for that piece, the best settings I can come up with to blend with the other DVX footage could matter a great deal.

As always, any insights anyone has would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Marcia

Mark A. Foley · February 7th, 2004, 11:29 AM

Thanks Robert for posting the link to Don's filters....I'm so used to navigating his website that I forgot it might be difficult on first visit....

February 6th, 2004, 07:35 PM	#305
Dan Lahav Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: CA Posts: 172	Vegas then After effects for 24p? since After Effects doesnt support the 24p pulldown, do i have to import my footage into Vegas, apply the pulldown, save AVI's and then edit like normal in After Effects? I'm a newbie so excuse me if i dont know what im talking about. Thanks.

February 6th, 2004, 07:38 PM	#306
Robert Knecht Schmidt Wrangler Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 1,933	This thread may be of help. According to this, Vegas drops frames to achieve 24p. __________________ All the best, Robert K S Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| The best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

February 6th, 2004, 09:52 PM	#308
Paul Colt Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Posts: 35	vegas transitions I love vegas because its so rock solid and PPro does have crash issues. Actually a lot of my clients for the wedding videos I do love the cheesy wedding transitions and since I'm always juggling 10 clients at once its a lot easier popping in some pre-made trans then having to spend hours making one. You can't tell me you never use a simple cross dissolve? Of course in my corporate videos I never bother with trans either.

February 6th, 2004, 11:25 PM	#311
Paul Colt Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Posts: 35	trans in Vegas Yeah I use about 80 percent fades, then a lot of quick cuts, I like to use an imaginative trans at title sequences for small vignettes I produce inside the project. I think just sticking to one thing throughtout ie direct cuts makes the wedding video a bit boring. I try to make it like an action video when producing a wedding, I want people to want to watch it more then once as in most weddings all people want to see is the rings, kiss, and the crazy drunken dancing at the end. How many of your own friends have you tortured with your own wedding video, not people want to watch you greet your ten thousand cousins!? Of course it starts with good shots!

February 7th, 2004, 05:38 AM	#312
Mark A. Foley Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Bonaire, Ga. Posts: 356	Discovered super process to give my footage a unique "look" First off, this maybe somewhat old news...but maybe it may not be for others. I shoot with a XL1s and at times due to no control over lighting (weddings...etc), the footage is less than ideal. Vegas does a fairly good job getting rid of the video noise...but in spite of NUMEROUS configurations, I never got the "Look" I desired. Well... I finally found a somewhat simple process to REALLY clean up less-than-ideal lighted footage and give it a unique look. I simply frame serve out to Virtual dub and use Donald Graft's Smart Smooth Filter (http://neuron2.net/). Try it...you may be blown away as I was the first time using it.....

February 6th, 2004, 02:14 PM	#301
Dan Lahav Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: CA Posts: 172	Thanks for your help guys! Looks like i can use vegas after all :)

February 6th, 2004, 02:17 PM	#302
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Boris RED Boris FX Boris Graffiti I just gave a large list of links in this thread

February 6th, 2004, 02:26 PM	#303
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Since you have Vegas, you may want to consider DVD Architect.

February 6th, 2004, 06:14 PM	#304
Gints Klimanis Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,222	Edward, Thank you for releasing the beta RC3 version of your film look plugin. Pretty cool.

February 6th, 2004, 07:54 PM	#307
Dan Lahav Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: CA Posts: 172	perhaps i should clarify... the video will be shot at 24pA with my DVX100

February 6th, 2004, 10:04 PM	#309
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	I CAN say that 99.9% of my wedding transitions are crossfades. Very rarely I'll use a flash transition and even more rarely something like a page curl.

February 6th, 2004, 10:08 PM	#310
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	No problem. Also thanks to Dave ("filmy") for creating the install program and looks.

February 7th, 2004, 06:12 AM	#313
Robert Knecht Schmidt Wrangler Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 1,933	Donald's got some nice papers archived in the Library of his site. Those looking for the filters will find them under the Mine section. (It took me a few minutes to figure this out.) __________________ All the best, Robert K S Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| The best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

February 7th, 2004, 10:50 AM	#314
Marcia Janine Galles Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Camarillo, CA Posts: 340	Best Quicktime import settings? Is anybody familiar with which Quicktime settings are best for importing into Vegas? I'm attempting to rebuild a project from FCP and would like to lay a Quicktime output from FCP under the EDL I already brought in, to use as my guide tracks for laying in the Vegas media files. When doing a Quicktime output from FCP the optional settings include everything from "video" to Uncompressed (8 bit or 10 bit) to MPEG-4 to Sorenson Video (reg or 3) to DV/DVCPRO - NTSC, and more. Thing is, I may just use it as a guide track then chuck it, in which case the settings are all that critical, but there is one piece of footage that I'd thrown into this project from a tape that I can't find, in which case, for that piece, the best settings I can come up with to blend with the other DVX footage could matter a great deal. As always, any insights anyone has would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Marcia

February 7th, 2004, 11:29 AM	#315
Mark A. Foley Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Bonaire, Ga. Posts: 356	Thanks Robert for posting the link to Don's filters....I'm so used to navigating his website that I forgot it might be difficult on first visit....