Vegas Video discussions from 2004 (Q1Q2)

Edward Troxel · January 29th, 2004, 09:11 AM

One thing you may want to try is to render to a single DV-AVI file first, load that new file on the timeline of a new project, and then render that to whatever format you are wanting.

David Hurdon · January 29th, 2004, 09:58 AM

Glen, I am most recently a 6.5 user, having moved from 5.1 through 6.02. I have no quarrel with the software but I'm aware of some of its shortcomings, perhaps particularly in the ease of colour correction. I have stand-alone assistance in this and other areas thanks to Canopus add-ons, but it's always preferable to have access within the NLE.

David Hurdon

Glen Elliott · January 29th, 2004, 10:51 AM

Color correction has been an absolute pleasure to work with in Vegas. I even prefer it to Final Cut Pro's color correction tools. Plus with realtime preview (via IEEE) you can "see" the affects of your edits immediatly on an external source (the only way to view your results accuratly).

Ed, you mean to say DVDA doesn't accept mp2's that have separate audio files. It has to be part of the same file? Or is that system stream?
I ask because when I encode from the Vegas timeline I choose the DVDA template which only does video stream. I have to go back and do the audio separately.

Edward Troxel · January 29th, 2004, 12:12 PM

The "video only" files you are producing from Vegas are MPG2 files that HAVE an audio stream - it's just silent.

Neither Vegas or DVDA accept elementary stream files.

Cameron Stainton · January 29th, 2004, 02:59 PM

Hi everyone,
I'm trying to get my home studio set up. I am using Vegas+DVD NLE software and have a single LCD. I have a geforce 3 graphics card.
Here's my question(s):
I would like to(additionaly) hook up a Sony Trinitron 19" to view my video preview in Vegas. Assuming that my card is a dual head, would the Sony be OK for this?
Could anyone suggest a good card to purchase in case the Nvidia won't work?
Thanks for ANY information!

Cameron Stainton · January 29th, 2004, 04:05 PM

Please disregard the above post as I have found the answers I was looking for.
Thanks
CS

Glen Elliott · January 29th, 2004, 04:07 PM

Wow I didn't know that. *scratching my head*............How do YOU know that?! How do you know so much in general?! *lol* Stuff like that isn't in the manual.

Mark A. Foley · January 30th, 2004, 02:51 PM

What video compression should I select in Vitrual Dub for for avi file to be used back in Vegas. Just started using Virtual dub and hve quicly found out the uncompressed RGB avis are huge....

Joe Sacher · January 30th, 2004, 03:18 PM

I'd be willing to bet that there is a frame serve plug-in for Virtual Dub. This would create a stub AVI file which Vegas can use. The advantages of uncompressed, without the disk space.

Kylie Wilson · January 31st, 2004, 02:04 AM

I'm using Vegas 4, my captured clips have many lines through them. Can anyone tell me what it is and how can I capture clips without these lines. I was using premiere and had the same problem when I burnt to dvd. Any suggestions welcome appreciation in advance for any answers

Thanks

Edward Troxel · January 31st, 2004, 06:30 AM

WHERE are you seeing the lines? Sounds like you may simply be seeing interlace lines. When you capture standard DV, it is interlaced. When you watch that video on a computer screen, there will be interlace lines present. When you watch that same video on a TV, it will look correct.

Don Donatello · January 31st, 2004, 12:09 PM

remember your computer monitor is PROGRESSIVE.

for your DVD ?? you might want to look at your project properties to see which method you selected (or didn't select) to de-interlace.

if you are rendering to progressive IMO choose BLEND as deinterlace method.

Stuart Kupinsky · January 31st, 2004, 01:11 PM

I've been experimenting with the DVX100A squeeze mode (simulates a 16:9 anamorphic lens output) and the Vegas 24p support. Here's what's happening:

--24p (2:3, not 2:3:3:2) squeeze mode record
--bring into Vegas with properties=24p widescreen (23.976fps)
--render as .mpg DVD Architect 24p widescreen (23.976, no pulldown)

Results are fine EXCEPT for a 3x3 matrix of little squares that goes flittering around the screen -- looks like a rubic's cube. This is true viewing the .mpg in wmp or on 3rd party software dvd decoders. I haven't burned to dvd yet.

I have a fully registered copy of Vegas and MainConcept, so this shouldn't be some sort of demo flag or something. I've used Vegas to output avi only in the past (which I have burned to dvd just fine) and when I use the regular NTSC DVD output setting to render I don't get the rubic's cube. Is this some sort of marker for DVD Architect? Thanks!

Robin D. Love · February 1st, 2004, 10:16 AM

This one's for Chroma Key veterans....

I am looking for recommendations regarding Chroma Key materials - specifically regarding materials, size and color:

Material - Which do you recommend when choosing among (i) paper, (ii) paint, (iii) non-foam cloth, and (iv) foam-backed cloth.

Size - How big of an area is adequate for a full body shot, for example. (I have a guess but I'm trying to get it right on the first setup.)

Color - Blue, Green or Orange?

Your thoughts, experience and recommendations are appreciated!

Thanks,
RL

Harry Settle · February 1st, 2004, 05:45 PM

Anyone know what the optimum amount of ram for windows xp is? It seems to me that the last I read was 512mb after which there was no appreciable performance gain.

January 29th, 2004, 09:58 AM	#197
David Hurdon Major Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 484	Glen, I am most recently a 6.5 user, having moved from 5.1 through 6.02. I have no quarrel with the software but I'm aware of some of its shortcomings, perhaps particularly in the ease of colour correction. I have stand-alone assistance in this and other areas thanks to Canopus add-ons, but it's always preferable to have access within the NLE. David Hurdon __________________ Site:http://www.faceliftmarketing.ca Blog:http://www.websitevideo.blogspot.com

January 29th, 2004, 02:59 PM	#200
Cameron Stainton New Boot Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Carbondale, CO Posts: 22	Best video card/monitor setup? Hi everyone, I'm trying to get my home studio set up. I am using Vegas+DVD NLE software and have a single LCD. I have a geforce 3 graphics card. Here's my question(s): I would like to(additionaly) hook up a Sony Trinitron 19" to view my video preview in Vegas. Assuming that my card is a dual head, would the Sony be OK for this? Could anyone suggest a good card to purchase in case the Nvidia won't work? Thanks for ANY information!

January 30th, 2004, 02:51 PM	#203
Mark A. Foley Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Bonaire, Ga. Posts: 356	Virtual Dub/Vegas What video compression should I select in Vitrual Dub for for avi file to be used back in Vegas. Just started using Virtual dub and hve quicly found out the uncompressed RGB avis are huge....

January 31st, 2004, 02:04 AM	#205
Kylie Wilson New Boot Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 12	Lines through clips I'm using Vegas 4, my captured clips have many lines through them. Can anyone tell me what it is and how can I capture clips without these lines. I was using premiere and had the same problem when I burnt to dvd. Any suggestions welcome appreciation in advance for any answers Thanks

January 31st, 2004, 01:11 PM	#208
Stuart Kupinsky Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Princeton, NJ Posts: 82	24p MPEG Output Question I've been experimenting with the DVX100A squeeze mode (simulates a 16:9 anamorphic lens output) and the Vegas 24p support. Here's what's happening: --24p (2:3, not 2:3:3:2) squeeze mode record --bring into Vegas with properties=24p widescreen (23.976fps) --render as .mpg DVD Architect 24p widescreen (23.976, no pulldown) Results are fine EXCEPT for a 3x3 matrix of little squares that goes flittering around the screen -- looks like a rubic's cube. This is true viewing the .mpg in wmp or on 3rd party software dvd decoders. I haven't burned to dvd yet. I have a fully registered copy of Vegas and MainConcept, so this shouldn't be some sort of demo flag or something. I've used Vegas to output avi only in the past (which I have burned to dvd just fine) and when I use the regular NTSC DVD output setting to render I don't get the rubic's cube. Is this some sort of marker for DVD Architect? Thanks! __________________ DVX100A/AT4071a/Vegas/After Effects Dual 2GHz Xeon PC

January 29th, 2004, 09:11 AM	#196
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	One thing you may want to try is to render to a single DV-AVI file first, load that new file on the timeline of a new project, and then render that to whatever format you are wanting.

January 29th, 2004, 10:51 AM	#198
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	Color correction has been an absolute pleasure to work with in Vegas. I even prefer it to Final Cut Pro's color correction tools. Plus with realtime preview (via IEEE) you can "see" the affects of your edits immediatly on an external source (the only way to view your results accuratly). Ed, you mean to say DVDA doesn't accept mp2's that have separate audio files. It has to be part of the same file? Or is that system stream? I ask because when I encode from the Vegas timeline I choose the DVDA template which only does video stream. I have to go back and do the audio separately.

January 29th, 2004, 12:12 PM	#199
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	The "video only" files you are producing from Vegas are MPG2 files that HAVE an audio stream - it's just silent. Neither Vegas or DVDA accept elementary stream files.

January 29th, 2004, 04:05 PM	#201
Cameron Stainton New Boot Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Carbondale, CO Posts: 22	Please disregard the above post as I have found the answers I was looking for. Thanks CS

January 29th, 2004, 04:07 PM	#202
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	Wow I didn't know that. scratching my head............How do YOU know that?! How do you know so much in general?! lol Stuff like that isn't in the manual.

January 30th, 2004, 03:18 PM	#204
Joe Sacher Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 177	I'd be willing to bet that there is a frame serve plug-in for Virtual Dub. This would create a stub AVI file which Vegas can use. The advantages of uncompressed, without the disk space.

January 31st, 2004, 06:30 AM	#206
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	WHERE are you seeing the lines? Sounds like you may simply be seeing interlace lines. When you capture standard DV, it is interlaced. When you watch that video on a computer screen, there will be interlace lines present. When you watch that same video on a TV, it will look correct.

January 31st, 2004, 12:09 PM	#207
Don Donatello Hawaiian Shirt Mogul Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: northern cailfornia Posts: 1,261	remember your computer monitor is PROGRESSIVE. for your DVD ?? you might want to look at your project properties to see which method you selected (or didn't select) to de-interlace. if you are rendering to progressive IMO choose BLEND as deinterlace method.

February 1st, 2004, 10:16 AM	#209
Robin D. Love New Boot Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 5	OT: Chroma Key Materials, Colors and Size This one's for Chroma Key veterans.... I am looking for recommendations regarding Chroma Key materials - specifically regarding materials, size and color: Material - Which do you recommend when choosing among (i) paper, (ii) paint, (iii) non-foam cloth, and (iv) foam-backed cloth. Size - How big of an area is adequate for a full body shot, for example. (I have a guess but I'm trying to get it right on the first setup.) Color - Blue, Green or Orange? Your thoughts, experience and recommendations are appreciated! Thanks, RL

February 1st, 2004, 05:45 PM	#210
Harry Settle Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bemidji, MN Posts: 276	Optimum ram for XP Anyone know what the optimum amount of ram for windows xp is? It seems to me that the last I read was 512mb after which there was no appreciable performance gain. __________________ "DOH"!!!