Vegas Video discussions from 2004 (Q1Q2)

Edward Troxel · June 25th, 2004, 07:40 AM

Dylan, the best resource you will find is the PDFs on Sony's site. Find someone else who can download and print them for you.

Adi Head · June 25th, 2004, 09:24 AM

"I find it simpler to just render both sections and start a "final" project using the rendered segments."

i thought of that. but i don't have enough available disk space at the moment.

Michael Wisniewski · June 25th, 2004, 05:27 PM

You could check-out the sticky posts in the Panasonic DVX100 / DVC80 Assistant forum, but like Edward said, the Sony pdf file is the best resource - it tells you exactly how to do what you want.

I'd copy and paste it, but it's not allowed by the pdf.

Dylan Couper · June 25th, 2004, 06:10 PM

Thats cool. Thanks guys. I'm shooting all weekend, then Monday I'll be formatting this computer and reinstalling so it works properly again. I'll get the .pdf then.

Jean-Philippe Archibald · June 25th, 2004, 06:53 PM

Maybe it's just me, but I think that the Vegas titler is very limitating for credit roll. The three types of item is not enough to really do what I want.

So what do you do, you, long time vegas users, to do your credit roll? Are you using a plugin, a third party software? a slow pan / crop over a long jpeg contaning all your credits?

I need your opinions on the best way to do.

Thanks

Aaron J.H. Walker · June 25th, 2004, 08:07 PM

Hey folks;

Anybody used another dvd creation program with Vegas? I know I could upgrade to Vegas + dvd but the price is out of my range right now. I have seen a few programs that let you create a dvd in the $30 range and was thinking of this as a "till-I-can-afford-to-do-better" solution.

I don't need a lot of bells and whistles as it is just for program consideration submissions (no mass sales/distribution or anything like that) and archival purposes which is why the above mentioned programs seem so attractive in terms of price as compared to the Vegas upgrade right now.

If you have, which program worked best and if not, why not.

Thanks

Edward Troxel · June 25th, 2004, 09:25 PM

All of the above work fine. Which do YOU like best? And do you want to spend any money?

Edward Troxel · June 25th, 2004, 09:26 PM

Any of them should work fine. Either feed them an AVI or MPEG2 file from Vegas and they should work well.

Jean-Philippe Archibald · June 25th, 2004, 10:41 PM

Hi Edward,

Yes, I could think about spending some money if it could enhance my work.

Quote:

All of the above work fine.

I am not aware of any plugin or third party software to do this kind of work. Can you point me to some of these?

And I am unable to acheive a result as sharp as the vegas text when using the pan and crop over a jpeg. Perhaps I am missing something.

Rob Lohman · June 26th, 2004, 03:25 AM

Dylan: keep in mind that you must have one of the later 4.0
versions for 24p support if I remember correctly. Something like
the .b or .c release at the least. The latest was the .e which
is the one with Sony on it instead of Sonic Foundry.

Rob Lohman · June 26th, 2004, 04:21 AM

Do **NOT** pan over a JPEG! Use a lossless file format like PSD,
BMP or uncompressed TIFF for example. JPEG is a lossy compression
that adds another layer of degredation you don't want. This is
plain JPEG I'm talking about. JPEG2000 might not have this issue
if exported properly. But just use another lossless format to make
sure you don't loose any quality there.

Now if the source is coming from a digital camera (ie, a photo)
then keep it in jpeg form (unless you also have RAW) since that
is your original. No need to convert that since it can't get any
better due to another file format.

Just use a lossless format for generated media like text or 3D
animations and effects etc.

Graham Bernard · June 26th, 2004, 05:04 AM

I use the the Placement Tool in plain old "Sample Text" in the Sony Text Media Generator .. I use the X and Y coord in conjunction with the keyframer .. excellent! I've done HUGE credit rolls, all types of fonts . . and it works AND it is quality . .. Grazie

Edward Troxel · June 26th, 2004, 06:27 AM

Remember that Vegas 5 came with a light version of Boris. For even more power, you can upgrade to the full version of Grafitti or Red. You also have options such as Bluff Titler and Ulead Cool 3D. There are actually quite a few options available. However, as Grazie said, I usually just use the placement tab in the Generated Media.

Jean-Philippe Archibald · June 26th, 2004, 08:05 AM

Rob, Graham, Edward,

Thank you very much. I should be able to do something better now.

Jason Pechman · June 26th, 2004, 02:36 PM

I just ordered the new version of vegas, how is the lite version of borris?

June 25th, 2004, 06:10 PM	#2044
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	Thats cool. Thanks guys. I'm shooting all weekend, then Monday I'll be formatting this computer and reinstalling so it works properly again. I'll get the .pdf then. __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

June 25th, 2004, 06:53 PM	#2045
Jean-Philippe Archibald Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Saguenay, Québec, Canada Posts: 1,051	Credit roll Maybe it's just me, but I think that the Vegas titler is very limitating for credit roll. The three types of item is not enough to really do what I want. So what do you do, you, long time vegas users, to do your credit roll? Are you using a plugin, a third party software? a slow pan / crop over a long jpeg contaning all your credits? I need your opinions on the best way to do. Thanks __________________ Jean-Philippe Archibald http://www.jparchibald.com - http://www.vimeo.com/jparchib

June 25th, 2004, 08:07 PM	#2046
Aaron J.H. Walker Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Victorville, California Posts: 30	Vegas and other dvd programs Hey folks; Anybody used another dvd creation program with Vegas? I know I could upgrade to Vegas + dvd but the price is out of my range right now. I have seen a few programs that let you create a dvd in the $30 range and was thinking of this as a "till-I-can-afford-to-do-better" solution. I don't need a lot of bells and whistles as it is just for program consideration submissions (no mass sales/distribution or anything like that) and archival purposes which is why the above mentioned programs seem so attractive in terms of price as compared to the Vegas upgrade right now. If you have, which program worked best and if not, why not. Thanks

June 26th, 2004, 03:25 AM	#2050
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Dylan: keep in mind that you must have one of the later 4.0 versions for 24p support if I remember correctly. Something like the .b or .c release at the least. The latest was the .e which is the one with Sony on it instead of Sonic Foundry. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

June 26th, 2004, 04:21 AM	#2051
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Do NOT pan over a JPEG! Use a lossless file format like PSD, BMP or uncompressed TIFF for example. JPEG is a lossy compression that adds another layer of degredation you don't want. This is plain JPEG I'm talking about. JPEG2000 might not have this issue if exported properly. But just use another lossless format to make sure you don't loose any quality there. Now if the source is coming from a digital camera (ie, a photo) then keep it in jpeg form (unless you also have RAW) since that is your original. No need to convert that since it can't get any better due to another file format. Just use a lossless format for generated media like text or 3D animations and effects etc. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

June 25th, 2004, 07:40 AM	#2041
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Dylan, the best resource you will find is the PDFs on Sony's site. Find someone else who can download and print them for you.

June 25th, 2004, 09:24 AM	#2042
Adi Head Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 642	"I find it simpler to just render both sections and start a "final" project using the rendered segments." i thought of that. but i don't have enough available disk space at the moment.

June 25th, 2004, 05:27 PM	#2043
Michael Wisniewski Wrangler Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Makati, Metro Manila Posts: 2,706 Images: 32	You could check-out the sticky posts in the Panasonic DVX100 / DVC80 Assistant forum, but like Edward said, the Sony pdf file is the best resource - it tells you exactly how to do what you want. I'd copy and paste it, but it's not allowed by the pdf.

June 25th, 2004, 09:25 PM	#2047
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	All of the above work fine. Which do YOU like best? And do you want to spend any money?

June 25th, 2004, 09:26 PM	#2048
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Any of them should work fine. Either feed them an AVI or MPEG2 file from Vegas and they should work well.

June 26th, 2004, 05:04 AM	#2052
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	Text and Placement Tool I use the the Placement Tool in plain old "Sample Text" in the Sony Text Media Generator .. I use the X and Y coord in conjunction with the keyframer .. excellent! I've done HUGE credit rolls, all types of fonts . . and it works AND it is quality . .. Grazie

June 26th, 2004, 06:27 AM	#2053
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Remember that Vegas 5 came with a light version of Boris. For even more power, you can upgrade to the full version of Grafitti or Red. You also have options such as Bluff Titler and Ulead Cool 3D. There are actually quite a few options available. However, as Grazie said, I usually just use the placement tab in the Generated Media.

June 26th, 2004, 08:05 AM	#2054
Jean-Philippe Archibald Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Saguenay, Québec, Canada Posts: 1,051	Rob, Graham, Edward, Thank you very much. I should be able to do something better now. __________________ Jean-Philippe Archibald http://www.jparchibald.com - http://www.vimeo.com/jparchib

June 26th, 2004, 02:36 PM	#2055
Jason Pechman Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 38	I just ordered the new version of vegas, how is the lite version of borris?