Vegas Video discussions from 2004 (Q1Q2)

Bryan Beasleigh · June 3rd, 2004, 07:04 PM

What is "Instant Vegas 5"

Aaron Koolen · June 3rd, 2004, 08:43 PM

I'm not up on the play as to what's really out there for Vegas, but I know Boris Grafitti can be used with it. What version of Vegas it works with I don't know but when I got Vegas 5 the other day it came with a limited version of Boris Graffiti. Haven't played with it yet though.

Aaron

Lance Spratt · June 3rd, 2004, 10:29 PM

I have just finished shooting a couple of hours of green screen footage for a documentary I am nearing completion on. The footage looks good, the green is even, however, as is common with DV, I am having to deal with some green spill on my subjects, as well as a rather stong black edge on certain areas around the subject as well where the subject is not lit as strongly.

I have looked at After Effects Pro which contains the spill suppressor, as well as other keying functions, but I would prefer to stick to Vegas if possible.

What operations/plug-ins could a person use to improve on this issue, if any. I recognize that DV is not the best format for keying, and I'm not looking for perfection, however I would like to improve this if at all possible.

Your help is greatly appreciated.

Edward Troxel · June 4th, 2004, 07:22 AM

You can use the secondary color corrector to help smooth out the edges. There's also a "deartifactor" tool currently in development by Zenote that will help in this regard. However, it's not yet available. You may also want to apply a very very slight blur.

Lance Spratt · June 4th, 2004, 08:42 AM

Edward,

I have attempted to use the color corrector and the blur already with minimal results. I am really unsure how I managed to result in such a strong black edge around the subject.

I'll keep an eye out for the Zenote plug-in. Will it function similar to After Effects as far as a spill elimination and edge preserving?

As always, I appreciate the help here on the forum!

Edward Troxel · June 4th, 2004, 08:58 AM

I don't have any details other than I've heard it will work well in this situation. I have not personally seen the tool.

Jim Quinlan · June 4th, 2004, 09:21 AM

I find using Ultra by Serious Magic can handle some of the most demanding keying situations. Many different adjustments are available that help deal with spill. It's a GREAT keying tool.

http://www.seriousmagic.com

Douglas Spotted Eagle · June 4th, 2004, 12:58 PM

Only full color is in the images in the color plates. The rest of the book is b/w.
INSTANT VEGAS is a shortcut tips/tricks book on basics, compositing, mixing in Vegas. More project oriented than in-depth oriented.

Dennis Vogel · June 4th, 2004, 03:04 PM

Try a bold version of a san serif font. Arial is good. Add a drop shadow and maybe an outline depending on the background color.

Maybe get some new fonts. http://dafont.com/en/

Dennis Vogel

Dan Measel · June 6th, 2004, 08:40 PM

My sister asked me to create a DVD of a variety show type of performance that she hired a professional videographer to tape for her. Anyway, when the videographer gave me the tapes she mentioned that the audio was being recorded directly into her Sony PD150 from the soundboard but was being "clipped". So she said she also recorded it with another mic (camera mounted)on the same tape.

I captured the video. When I drag a scene into Vegas (I'm using 4) there is one video track and one audio track. However, the audio track is split in two horizontally down the middle displaying 2 seperate audio waveforms. I just do this as a hobby and have never encoutered this before. Is there a way to seperate the two audio waveforms so that I can choose the one that sounds best? Can you do that in Vegas?

Edward Troxel · June 6th, 2004, 08:55 PM

Copy the audio to another track. Then right-click each one, choose "Channels" and then pick "right" on one and "left" on the other.

Peter Jefferson · June 7th, 2004, 09:24 AM

But rememebr to do a single left-click on each of the property panels on the left hand side of the track to seperate them. If you don't , Edward's tip won't work to the fullest capacity is the tracks will emulate each other :)

Douglas Spotted Eagle · June 7th, 2004, 09:46 AM

Gang,
if you aren't registered for the FREE SONY SOFTWARE SHOWCASE EVENT in NYC for tomorrow, (june 8) GET REGISTERED NOW!
Due to security reasons, the 550 Madison avenue building will NOT allow anyone into the showcase unless they are pre-registered.
We will be turning off registration at 11:00 p.m. EST
http://www.vasst.com/registration/?sony to get registered.

Glen Elliott · June 8th, 2004, 05:50 AM

Anyone using it- any feedback?

http://store.yahoo.com/redgiantsoftw...gasbullet.html

Mark A. Foley · June 8th, 2004, 05:51 AM

Edward,
Just a thought...but have you thought of adding "match output aspect" script to your PBS wizard for Neon. I realize there are stand alone scripts for this...at least for Vegas 4...but I haven't seen the scripts updated for 5. I just finished a bunch of work with photos and forgot to originally open the project in Vegas 4 to take advantage of the aspect script. This is not a biggie...but would be a nice addition to the wizards...

June 3rd, 2004, 07:04 PM	#1846
Bryan Beasleigh Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Barrie, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,922	What is "Instant Vegas 5" __________________ Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ".......holy smokin rubber lips...what a ride!"

June 3rd, 2004, 08:43 PM	#1847
Aaron Koolen Trustee Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 1,727	I'm not up on the play as to what's really out there for Vegas, but I know Boris Grafitti can be used with it. What version of Vegas it works with I don't know but when I got Vegas 5 the other day it came with a limited version of Boris Graffiti. Haven't played with it yet though. Aaron __________________ My Website Meat Free Media

June 3rd, 2004, 10:29 PM	#1848
Lance Spratt Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Devon, Alberta, Canada Posts: 47	Keying in Vegas - help! I have just finished shooting a couple of hours of green screen footage for a documentary I am nearing completion on. The footage looks good, the green is even, however, as is common with DV, I am having to deal with some green spill on my subjects, as well as a rather stong black edge on certain areas around the subject as well where the subject is not lit as strongly. I have looked at After Effects Pro which contains the spill suppressor, as well as other keying functions, but I would prefer to stick to Vegas if possible. What operations/plug-ins could a person use to improve on this issue, if any. I recognize that DV is not the best format for keying, and I'm not looking for perfection, however I would like to improve this if at all possible. Your help is greatly appreciated. __________________ Lance Spratt

June 4th, 2004, 08:42 AM	#1850
Lance Spratt Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Devon, Alberta, Canada Posts: 47	Edward, I have attempted to use the color corrector and the blur already with minimal results. I am really unsure how I managed to result in such a strong black edge around the subject. I'll keep an eye out for the Zenote plug-in. Will it function similar to After Effects as far as a spill elimination and edge preserving? As always, I appreciate the help here on the forum! __________________ Lance Spratt

June 4th, 2004, 09:21 AM	#1852
Jim Quinlan Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Clearwater, Florida Posts: 177	I find using Ultra by Serious Magic can handle some of the most demanding keying situations. Many different adjustments are available that help deal with spill. It's a GREAT keying tool. http://www.seriousmagic.com __________________ Jim

June 4th, 2004, 07:22 AM	#1849
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	You can use the secondary color corrector to help smooth out the edges. There's also a "deartifactor" tool currently in development by Zenote that will help in this regard. However, it's not yet available. You may also want to apply a very very slight blur.

June 4th, 2004, 08:58 AM	#1851
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	I don't have any details other than I've heard it will work well in this situation. I have not personally seen the tool.

June 4th, 2004, 12:58 PM	#1853
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	Only full color is in the images in the color plates. The rest of the book is b/w. INSTANT VEGAS is a shortcut tips/tricks book on basics, compositing, mixing in Vegas. More project oriented than in-depth oriented. __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

June 4th, 2004, 03:04 PM	#1854
Dennis Vogel Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hillsborough, NC Posts: 409	Try a bold version of a san serif font. Arial is good. Add a drop shadow and maybe an outline depending on the background color. Maybe get some new fonts. http://dafont.com/en/ Dennis Vogel

June 6th, 2004, 08:40 PM	#1855
Dan Measel Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Athens, GA Posts: 196	I need help separating 2 audio tracks My sister asked me to create a DVD of a variety show type of performance that she hired a professional videographer to tape for her. Anyway, when the videographer gave me the tapes she mentioned that the audio was being recorded directly into her Sony PD150 from the soundboard but was being "clipped". So she said she also recorded it with another mic (camera mounted)on the same tape. I captured the video. When I drag a scene into Vegas (I'm using 4) there is one video track and one audio track. However, the audio track is split in two horizontally down the middle displaying 2 seperate audio waveforms. I just do this as a hobby and have never encoutered this before. Is there a way to seperate the two audio waveforms so that I can choose the one that sounds best? Can you do that in Vegas?

June 6th, 2004, 08:55 PM	#1856
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Copy the audio to another track. Then right-click each one, choose "Channels" and then pick "right" on one and "left" on the other.

June 7th, 2004, 09:24 AM	#1857
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	But rememebr to do a single left-click on each of the property panels on the left hand side of the track to seperate them. If you don't , Edward's tip won't work to the fullest capacity is the tracks will emulate each other :)

June 7th, 2004, 09:46 AM	#1858
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	Last Chance for NYC Sony event! Gang, if you aren't registered for the FREE SONY SOFTWARE SHOWCASE EVENT in NYC for tomorrow, (june 8) GET REGISTERED NOW! Due to security reasons, the 550 Madison avenue building will NOT allow anyone into the showcase unless they are pre-registered. We will be turning off registration at 11:00 p.m. EST http://www.vasst.com/registration/?sony to get registered. __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

June 8th, 2004, 05:50 AM	#1859
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	Magic Bullet out for Vegas Anyone using it- any feedback? http://store.yahoo.com/redgiantsoftw...gasbullet.html

June 8th, 2004, 05:51 AM	#1860
Mark A. Foley Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Bonaire, Ga. Posts: 356	Item to add/consider for Neon Edward, Just a thought...but have you thought of adding "match output aspect" script to your PBS wizard for Neon. I realize there are stand alone scripts for this...at least for Vegas 4...but I haven't seen the scripts updated for 5. I just finished a bunch of work with photos and forgot to originally open the project in Vegas 4 to take advantage of the aspect script. This is not a biggie...but would be a nice addition to the wizards...