Vegas Video discussions from 2004 (Q1Q2)

Sunny Dhinsey · May 21st, 2004, 02:59 PM

Don't know if this is really acceptable, but you could even do the pattern in something like the standard Windows 'Paint' program (assuming you have a Windows based PC) over a coloured background (like blue for example) and then use the chroma keyer in Vegas to remove the blue if need be.

I only use Photoshop when preparing images etc for Vegas and I have never tried it with Windows Paint, so can't comment on its effectiveness, but I am certain that Windows Paint does not give you templates for matching video aspect ratio!

I might give it a try for myself!

I've probably confused you even more, but thought I would add my input!

Colin Rayner · May 21st, 2004, 06:06 PM

Speaking of music generators for Vegas, does anyone know of any others that are compatible?

Gavin Stokes · May 21st, 2004, 09:21 PM

Hi Rob.

Yeah, I tried the Video for Windows settings and picked the Matrox driver, but no dice. That's what's baffling, because as we both noted, the codec's doing the work.

If Vegas is not converting to an internal format for placement in the timeline (as FCP does), then they're transcoding on the fly for DV output through FireWire.

Regards,
Gavin

Josh Bass · May 21st, 2004, 10:23 PM

Thanks. I'll try it.

Jim Lafferty · May 22nd, 2004, 11:52 AM

Acid?

Jim Lafferty · May 22nd, 2004, 11:57 AM

Somewhat related -- there's talk of Zenote releasing a suite of Magic Bullet-like movie looks.

If you haven't already, I suggest you give their "Glow" filter a look -- at $30, combine it with judicious use of the Color Curves and Color Corrector, and you've got yourself a very good look setup.

Combine it further with color overlays, luma masks... there's no reason to care much about MB, and plenty of reasons to drop their render times.

- jim

Peter Jefferson · May 22nd, 2004, 01:22 PM

acids more of a looping tool and multitracker than an actual generator..

John Hudson · May 22nd, 2004, 04:05 PM

You might not even need any software. Perhaps search the net for jpegs or designs you are looking for?

Jim Lafferty · May 22nd, 2004, 09:35 PM

Ah, thanks for making that distinction clear...

Harry Settle · May 22nd, 2004, 10:14 PM

You are going to have a ball, after you get over the initial shock of the transition.

Want to have more fun? Consider dumping the Celeron for a system with hyperthreading, it will make a big diff in rendering times with V5.

Rob Lohman · May 23rd, 2004, 06:46 AM

That could be. It might be something as simple as you not having
turned on DMA for that drive. Or you need to defrag. But it can
also be more serious in that the drive is failing.

Is there another device on the same channel (cable) as the drive?

Rob Lohman · May 23rd, 2004, 07:18 AM

Yes, if you have external monitor on it is doing on the fly DV
encoding before sending it over the firewire channel.

Love Mov · May 23rd, 2004, 10:21 AM

How one render to a file in shared directory, and use another networked PC gets input from that file? Seems I can't make it work, either render to local or remote PC. Any trick, oe maybe it doesn't even supported? Thanks.

Imran Zaidi · May 23rd, 2004, 11:50 AM

A big thank you to Edward Troxel for a great evening with Vegas on Friday night here in downtown Orlando. We covered a lot of ground, from the Zenote plugins to Edward's Excalibur/Tsunami/Neon plugins to a deep look into some of the new features of Vegas 5.0.

It was a great environment of sharing and mutual problem solving, mixed in with just some good old fashioned get-to-knows.

Thanks to everybody that came out, and thanks again Edward. People pay a lot of money for the expertise and knowhow you brought to the meeting, and you shared it with us for free.

Thanks all!

Jeff Donald · May 23rd, 2004, 12:25 PM

I'm sorry I missed the show. I had an inkjet printing workshop to present the next day and with the travel time and all I didn't think it would work out. If you have another meeting I would love to know about it.

May 21st, 2004, 02:59 PM	#1726
Sunny Dhinsey Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: London, England Posts: 127	Don't know if this is really acceptable, but you could even do the pattern in something like the standard Windows 'Paint' program (assuming you have a Windows based PC) over a coloured background (like blue for example) and then use the chroma keyer in Vegas to remove the blue if need be. I only use Photoshop when preparing images etc for Vegas and I have never tried it with Windows Paint, so can't comment on its effectiveness, but I am certain that Windows Paint does not give you templates for matching video aspect ratio! I might give it a try for myself! I've probably confused you even more, but thought I would add my input! __________________ Sunny Dhinsey Director - www.filmlore.tv

May 21st, 2004, 10:23 PM	#1729
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	Thanks. I'll try it. __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

May 22nd, 2004, 11:52 AM	#1730
Jim Lafferty Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 636	Acid? __________________ Realism, anyway, is never exactly the same as reality, and in the cinema it is of necessity faked. -- J-L G

May 22nd, 2004, 11:57 AM	#1731
Jim Lafferty Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 636	Somewhat related -- there's talk of Zenote releasing a suite of Magic Bullet-like movie looks. If you haven't already, I suggest you give their "Glow" filter a look -- at $30, combine it with judicious use of the Color Curves and Color Corrector, and you've got yourself a very good look setup. Combine it further with color overlays, luma masks... there's no reason to care much about MB, and plenty of reasons to drop their render times. - jim __________________ Realism, anyway, is never exactly the same as reality, and in the cinema it is of necessity faked. -- J-L G

May 22nd, 2004, 09:35 PM	#1734
Jim Lafferty Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 636	Ah, thanks for making that distinction clear... __________________ Realism, anyway, is never exactly the same as reality, and in the cinema it is of necessity faked. -- J-L G

May 21st, 2004, 06:06 PM	#1727
Colin Rayner Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Geraldine, NEW ZEALAND Posts: 88	Speaking of music generators for Vegas, does anyone know of any others that are compatible?

May 21st, 2004, 09:21 PM	#1728
Gavin Stokes Tourist Join Date: May 2004 Location: United States Posts: 3	Hi Rob. Yeah, I tried the Video for Windows settings and picked the Matrox driver, but no dice. That's what's baffling, because as we both noted, the codec's doing the work. If Vegas is not converting to an internal format for placement in the timeline (as FCP does), then they're transcoding on the fly for DV output through FireWire. Regards, Gavin

May 22nd, 2004, 01:22 PM	#1732
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	acids more of a looping tool and multitracker than an actual generator..

May 22nd, 2004, 04:05 PM	#1733
John Hudson Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: 32° 44' N 117° 10' W Posts: 820	You might not even need any software. Perhaps search the net for jpegs or designs you are looking for?

May 22nd, 2004, 10:14 PM	#1735
Harry Settle Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bemidji, MN Posts: 276	You are going to have a ball, after you get over the initial shock of the transition. Want to have more fun? Consider dumping the Celeron for a system with hyperthreading, it will make a big diff in rendering times with V5. __________________ "DOH"!!!

May 23rd, 2004, 06:46 AM	#1736
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	That could be. It might be something as simple as you not having turned on DMA for that drive. Or you need to defrag. But it can also be more serious in that the drive is failing. Is there another device on the same channel (cable) as the drive? __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

May 23rd, 2004, 07:18 AM	#1737
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Yes, if you have external monitor on it is doing on the fly DV encoding before sending it over the firewire channel. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

May 23rd, 2004, 10:21 AM	#1738
Love Mov Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 97	Use Frameserver rendering across network? How one render to a file in shared directory, and use another networked PC gets input from that file? Seems I can't make it work, either render to local or remote PC. Any trick, oe maybe it doesn't even supported? Thanks.

May 23rd, 2004, 11:50 AM	#1739
Imran Zaidi Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,315	Big Thanks to Edward from Orlando A big thank you to Edward Troxel for a great evening with Vegas on Friday night here in downtown Orlando. We covered a lot of ground, from the Zenote plugins to Edward's Excalibur/Tsunami/Neon plugins to a deep look into some of the new features of Vegas 5.0. It was a great environment of sharing and mutual problem solving, mixed in with just some good old fashioned get-to-knows. Thanks to everybody that came out, and thanks again Edward. People pay a lot of money for the expertise and knowhow you brought to the meeting, and you shared it with us for free. Thanks all!

May 23rd, 2004, 12:25 PM	#1740
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	I'm sorry I missed the show. I had an inkjet printing workshop to present the next day and with the travel time and all I didn't think it would work out. If you have another meeting I would love to know about it. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors