Vegas Video discussions from 2004 (Q1Q2)

Gary Kleiner · May 14th, 2004, 09:10 PM

Add a velocity envelope, and a node at the point you want the freeze to happen.

Add another node (point) to the right and move it directly undeneath the other one. Right click on the bottom node and Set To.. 0%.

Now you can dag out the event however long you want it ,and it will stay on that frame.

Gary

Gary Kleiner · May 14th, 2004, 09:13 PM

While Vegas can now import Acid loops and their metadata.

Vegas is nowhere near what Acid does, and visa versa. Two very different programs.

Gary

Tim Le · May 14th, 2004, 11:29 PM

Man, I should have tried that! Thanks Gary, that worked like a charm.

Allen Nash · May 15th, 2004, 03:26 AM

in which ways is ACID more comprehensive than what Vegas offers, in terms of loop-based compositions?

Peter Jefferson · May 15th, 2004, 05:48 AM

pitch, time, midi set, tempo/beat matching etc.. are all superior in acid

why would they jeopardise a market by offering it all in teh one package?

This way they get more moola

Rob Lohman · May 15th, 2004, 07:16 AM

It might also just be unused media. There is an "Remove all
unused media from project" button in the media pool for this.

I had that too last year and was puzzled by it until I figured out
it was a test clip I did some things with and put up on the
timeline to see if it fitted in with the rest. It didn't so I deleted
the clip from the timeline and from my harddisk.

Next time Vegas asked me for the missing piece. It was still in
my media pool and the cleanup function got rid it of it (could also
have doen it manually ofcourse).

I usually try several different takes of scenes (which are different
AVI files in my setup) and also do a clean media pool every once
in a while to get rid of those references I did not end up using.

Glen Elliott · May 15th, 2004, 07:24 AM

Yeah, that's exactly what I did to fix it. Ugh...media pool- who actually uses that sloppy thing. lol

Emre Safak · May 15th, 2004, 11:33 AM

Coming from Photoshop, I like working with adjustment layers. They allow me to modify the image without irrevocably altering the image. I was thinking.... couldn't I use opacity envelopes to cut between scenes? Say I have a main video track, and a supplementary video track. I add an opacity envelope to the latter, and use it to cut between the two tracks. The problem is that opacity envelopes are not conducive to cutting; all changes are smooth. I do not want dissolves; just cuts. Is this possible, and if so, do you think it is a good idea?

Glenn Chan · May 15th, 2004, 11:45 AM

Vegas is non-destructive in nature so you don't have to do that.

If you split a clip with "s" and delete one portion, just expand the remaining portion and you'll get your clip back.

Emre Safak · May 15th, 2004, 12:34 PM

That is true.

Meanwhile I solved the problem: Mute Envelopes are exactly what I wanted. What a great program eh?

Aaron J.H. Walker · May 15th, 2004, 08:10 PM

Hi folks;
Anybody get anywhere with the rebate Sony was offering for folks who bought Vegas 4 during the month of April?

I saw it listed on another forum that there is a $50 rebate but when I tried to register I got an error screen.

When I called Sony they said they were aware of not being able to register for the rebate on line and that I would get a phone call saying when they had fixed the problem.

Of course, no phone call as of yet.

Anybody had any luck getting further along in the rebate process?

Philippe Gosselin · May 15th, 2004, 08:36 PM

Hi all,

Ok so i got two kinds of footage for a video i am editing.

One shot in 16:9

One shot in 4:3

When i rendered it i specifically chose to put it in 4:3 but the end result is that all the shots in 16:9 are widescreened and the 4:3 are full screen.

Is there any way to harmonize the two so they either both go wide or full screen.

Thx a bunch

Phil

Michael Wisniewski · May 15th, 2004, 09:18 PM

One method would be to use the pan/crop tool on the 16:9 footage. Zoom-in/pan/scan so it fills the screen.

Or you could letterbox the 4:3 video using either the Pan/Crop tool or by using a mask.

Edward Troxel · May 15th, 2004, 09:32 PM

I recommend you call support again - especially if it still doesn't work today. Have you tried it again?

Dan Crandall · May 16th, 2004, 12:54 AM

Though you can cut between scenes by using opacity envelopes, you should be aware that render times may increase dramatically by using this approach as Vegas will be forced to render every frame.

May 15th, 2004, 07:16 AM	#1641
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	It might also just be unused media. There is an "Remove all unused media from project" button in the media pool for this. I had that too last year and was puzzled by it until I figured out it was a test clip I did some things with and put up on the timeline to see if it fitted in with the rest. It didn't so I deleted the clip from the timeline and from my harddisk. Next time Vegas asked me for the missing piece. It was still in my media pool and the cleanup function got rid it of it (could also have doen it manually ofcourse). I usually try several different takes of scenes (which are different AVI files in my setup) and also do a clean media pool every once in a while to get rid of those references I did not end up using. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

May 15th, 2004, 11:33 AM	#1643
Emre Safak Trustee Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brookline, MA Posts: 1,447	Using opacity envelopes for non-destructive cuts Coming from Photoshop, I like working with adjustment layers. They allow me to modify the image without irrevocably altering the image. I was thinking.... couldn't I use opacity envelopes to cut between scenes? Say I have a main video track, and a supplementary video track. I add an opacity envelope to the latter, and use it to cut between the two tracks. The problem is that opacity envelopes are not conducive to cutting; all changes are smooth. I do not want dissolves; just cuts. Is this possible, and if so, do you think it is a good idea?

May 15th, 2004, 08:10 PM	#1646
Aaron J.H. Walker Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Victorville, California Posts: 30	vegas rebates? Hi folks; Anybody get anywhere with the rebate Sony was offering for folks who bought Vegas 4 during the month of April? I saw it listed on another forum that there is a $50 rebate but when I tried to register I got an error screen. When I called Sony they said they were aware of not being able to register for the rebate on line and that I would get a phone call saying when they had fixed the problem. Of course, no phone call as of yet. Anybody had any luck getting further along in the rebate process?

May 15th, 2004, 08:36 PM	#1647
Philippe Gosselin Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Montreal , Canada Posts: 197	Rendering video with 16:9 and 4:3 Hi all, Ok so i got two kinds of footage for a video i am editing. One shot in 16:9 One shot in 4:3 When i rendered it i specifically chose to put it in 4:3 but the end result is that all the shots in 16:9 are widescreened and the 4:3 are full screen. Is there any way to harmonize the two so they either both go wide or full screen. Thx a bunch Phil

May 16th, 2004, 12:54 AM	#1650
Dan Crandall New Boot Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 13	Though you can cut between scenes by using opacity envelopes, you should be aware that render times may increase dramatically by using this approach as Vegas will be forced to render every frame. __________________ -Dan

May 14th, 2004, 09:10 PM	#1636
Gary Kleiner Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado Posts: 166	Add a velocity envelope, and a node at the point you want the freeze to happen. Add another node (point) to the right and move it directly undeneath the other one. Right click on the bottom node and Set To.. 0%. Now you can dag out the event however long you want it ,and it will stay on that frame. Gary

May 14th, 2004, 09:13 PM	#1637
Gary Kleiner Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado Posts: 166	While Vegas can now import Acid loops and their metadata. Vegas is nowhere near what Acid does, and visa versa. Two very different programs. Gary

May 14th, 2004, 11:29 PM	#1638
Tim Le Major Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 350	Man, I should have tried that! Thanks Gary, that worked like a charm.

May 15th, 2004, 03:26 AM	#1639
Allen Nash Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: S.F., California Posts: 61	in which ways is ACID more comprehensive than what Vegas offers, in terms of loop-based compositions?

May 15th, 2004, 05:48 AM	#1640
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	pitch, time, midi set, tempo/beat matching etc.. are all superior in acid why would they jeopardise a market by offering it all in teh one package? This way they get more moola

May 15th, 2004, 07:24 AM	#1642
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	Yeah, that's exactly what I did to fix it. Ugh...media pool- who actually uses that sloppy thing. lol

May 15th, 2004, 11:45 AM	#1644
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	Vegas is non-destructive in nature so you don't have to do that. If you split a clip with "s" and delete one portion, just expand the remaining portion and you'll get your clip back.

May 15th, 2004, 12:34 PM	#1645
Emre Safak Trustee Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brookline, MA Posts: 1,447	That is true. Meanwhile I solved the problem: Mute Envelopes are exactly what I wanted. What a great program eh?

May 15th, 2004, 09:18 PM	#1648
Michael Wisniewski Wrangler Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Makati, Metro Manila Posts: 2,706 Images: 32	One method would be to use the pan/crop tool on the 16:9 footage. Zoom-in/pan/scan so it fills the screen. Or you could letterbox the 4:3 video using either the Pan/Crop tool or by using a mask.

May 15th, 2004, 09:32 PM	#1649
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	I recommend you call support again - especially if it still doesn't work today. Have you tried it again?