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Ozzie Leon · October 16th, 2003, 09:52 AM

Hello all I have been using adobe premiere for a while now. I am thinking about switching software thanks to pinnacle which won't support adobe pro. I have 2 panasonic ag-dvx100 which use the 24p mode. Does vegas handle this. I have a pinacle pro-one card. will it work with vegas or do I need to rebuild?, will vegas work with after effect, photoshop ect... Sorry for all the Q just wanted to ask people who would know.

Glen Elliott · October 16th, 2003, 10:21 AM

No prob..

<<<-- Originally posted by Ozzie Leon : Hello all I have been using adobe premiere for a while now. I am thinking about switching software thanks to pinnacle which won't support adobe pro. I have 2 panasonic ag-dvx100 which use the 24p mode. Does vegas handle this. Yes, it's the only NLE in it's class that handles 24p footage natively. I, also, shoot with a DVX100 and went to Vegas because of this reason among many MANY others.

I have a pinacle pro-one card. will it work with vegas or do I need to rebuild? If your asking if it can be used to do real-time effects/transitions in Vegas...No. If it is OHCI compliant it can be used, but only to capture. Though if your motherboard has an IEEE port or you have an Audigy audio card they both can be used as a capture alternative.

, will vegas work with after effect, photoshop ect...Yes, and yes...but depends on "how" you mean "work with". It's not as tightly integrated as Premiere Pro beings it's in the same Adobe line-up though Vegas recognizes photoshop's alpha channels and you can interchange your footage between After Effects and Vegas as you see fit. Though I don't know how After Effects handles 24p footage.

Sorry for all the Q just wanted to ask people who would know. -->>>Not a problem- that's what this forum is for.

Peter Jefferson · October 16th, 2003, 12:25 PM

using vegas, most of After effects utilities will be redundant... so i wouldnt worry too much :)

vegas can do most of after effects stuff on the timeline within your edit.. lighting blurs, film look etc etc...

Ozzie Leon · October 16th, 2003, 06:11 PM

Great thanks guys, since your not using a capture card? how are you out putting to vhs. My pro one card has a break out box which allows me to send to firewire or to vhs/shvs.

Glenn Chan · October 16th, 2003, 07:56 PM

Do you have a DV camcorder than can convert from DV to analog on the fly?

Glen Elliott · October 16th, 2003, 08:13 PM

Yeah you can use your DV cam like a break out box.

Ozzie Leon · October 16th, 2003, 08:54 PM

Ok, so in other works since I have a sony-dsr11 i can use that instead my camera. I can use the ouput from my dsr11 into my svhs deck.

Glenn Chan · October 16th, 2003, 09:03 PM

You should be able to use your DSR11 to convert from DV to analog and vice versa.

Ozzie Leon · October 16th, 2003, 09:40 PM

agree glen

Glen Elliott · October 17th, 2003, 08:33 AM

The DSR11 is a stand-alone DV deck right. Yeah both the DV decks and DV cams work the same way. Connect it to computer via IEEE and to tv via the composite/s-video in/outs on the deck/camera. It's connected in a similar way when you want to preview your color corrections to an external monitor by simply connecting the composit/s-video to the TV/Editing Monitor. Vegas will send the signal via IEEE to the deck/camera and then from camera to VCR or Monitor. Whichever you choose...which makes it work just like a break-out-box.
And just as the other Glen(n) says it can work both ways....you can use your camera to facilitate an analog capture if need be.

I was glad to hear this news for the first time because I came from Premiere 6 using Pinnacle's DV500 and it's break-out-box. Now I don't need a card taking up a PCI slot and any static break-out-box hogging precious deskotp real-estate.

Adrian Douglas · October 17th, 2003, 09:38 AM

Peter,

I'm sorry to disagree with you on this and not to take anything away from Vegas but your comparing apples to oranges, one is an NLE that can handle a bit of composting and the other is a full-blown professional composting tool.

Ozzie,

I've exported Vegas footage into AE without any problems. You can't import as a project as you can with Premiere but footage goes in like a foot in a sock.

Ozzie Leon · October 28th, 2003, 07:18 AM

I've been looking at Final cut pro and Avid express pro. It seems that they both take advantage of the panasonic ag-dvx100. Does any one use either of these software?

Peter Wright · November 3rd, 2003, 01:25 AM

I'm not a dvx100 user myself, but I've read that dvx100 / 24p integration is yet another of Vegas' strengths, including ability to output 24p MPEG2 for DVD.

October 16th, 2003, 09:52 AM	#1
Ozzie Leon Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: columbus ohio Posts: 68	vegas Hello all I have been using adobe premiere for a while now. I am thinking about switching software thanks to pinnacle which won't support adobe pro. I have 2 panasonic ag-dvx100 which use the 24p mode. Does vegas handle this. I have a pinacle pro-one card. will it work with vegas or do I need to rebuild?, will vegas work with after effect, photoshop ect... Sorry for all the Q just wanted to ask people who would know. __________________ Ozzie Leon

October 16th, 2003, 10:21 AM	#2
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	Re: vegas No prob.. <<<-- Originally posted by Ozzie Leon : Hello all I have been using adobe premiere for a while now. I am thinking about switching software thanks to pinnacle which won't support adobe pro. I have 2 panasonic ag-dvx100 which use the 24p mode. Does vegas handle this. Yes, it's the only NLE in it's class that handles 24p footage natively. I, also, shoot with a DVX100 and went to Vegas because of this reason among many MANY others. I have a pinacle pro-one card. will it work with vegas or do I need to rebuild? If your asking if it can be used to do real-time effects/transitions in Vegas...No. If it is OHCI compliant it can be used, but only to capture. Though if your motherboard has an IEEE port or you have an Audigy audio card they both can be used as a capture alternative. , will vegas work with after effect, photoshop ect...Yes, and yes...but depends on "how" you mean "work with". It's not as tightly integrated as Premiere Pro beings it's in the same Adobe line-up though Vegas recognizes photoshop's alpha channels and you can interchange your footage between After Effects and Vegas as you see fit. Though I don't know how After Effects handles 24p footage. Sorry for all the Q just wanted to ask people who would know. -->>>Not a problem- that's what this forum is for.

October 16th, 2003, 06:11 PM	#4
Ozzie Leon Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: columbus ohio Posts: 68	Great thanks guys, since your not using a capture card? how are you out putting to vhs. My pro one card has a break out box which allows me to send to firewire or to vhs/shvs. __________________ Ozzie Leon

October 16th, 2003, 08:54 PM	#7
Ozzie Leon Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: columbus ohio Posts: 68	Ok, so in other works since I have a sony-dsr11 i can use that instead my camera. I can use the ouput from my dsr11 into my svhs deck. __________________ Ozzie Leon

October 16th, 2003, 09:40 PM	#9
Ozzie Leon Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: columbus ohio Posts: 68	agree glen __________________ Ozzie Leon

October 16th, 2003, 12:25 PM	#3
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	using vegas, most of After effects utilities will be redundant... so i wouldnt worry too much :) vegas can do most of after effects stuff on the timeline within your edit.. lighting blurs, film look etc etc...

October 16th, 2003, 07:56 PM	#5
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	Do you have a DV camcorder than can convert from DV to analog on the fly?

October 16th, 2003, 08:13 PM	#6
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	Yeah you can use your DV cam like a break out box.

October 16th, 2003, 09:03 PM	#8
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	You should be able to use your DSR11 to convert from DV to analog and vice versa.

October 17th, 2003, 08:33 AM	#10
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	The DSR11 is a stand-alone DV deck right. Yeah both the DV decks and DV cams work the same way. Connect it to computer via IEEE and to tv via the composite/s-video in/outs on the deck/camera. It's connected in a similar way when you want to preview your color corrections to an external monitor by simply connecting the composit/s-video to the TV/Editing Monitor. Vegas will send the signal via IEEE to the deck/camera and then from camera to VCR or Monitor. Whichever you choose...which makes it work just like a break-out-box. And just as the other Glen(n) says it can work both ways....you can use your camera to facilitate an analog capture if need be. I was glad to hear this news for the first time because I came from Premiere 6 using Pinnacle's DV500 and it's break-out-box. Now I don't need a card taking up a PCI slot and any static break-out-box hogging precious deskotp real-estate.

October 17th, 2003, 09:38 AM	#11
Adrian Douglas Trustee Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Chigasaki, Japan. Posts: 1,660	Peter, I'm sorry to disagree with you on this and not to take anything away from Vegas but your comparing apples to oranges, one is an NLE that can handle a bit of composting and the other is a full-blown professional composting tool. Ozzie, I've exported Vegas footage into AE without any problems. You can't import as a project as you can with Premiere but footage goes in like a foot in a sock. __________________ Adrian DVInfo.net Search for quick answers Where to buy? From the best in the business...DVInfo.net sponsors

October 28th, 2003, 07:18 AM	#12
Ozzie Leon Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: columbus ohio Posts: 68	I've been looking at Final cut pro and Avid express pro. It seems that they both take advantage of the panasonic ag-dvx100. Does any one use either of these software? __________________ Ozzie Leon

November 3rd, 2003, 01:25 AM	#13
Peter Wright Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 193	I'm not a dvx100 user myself, but I've read that dvx100 / 24p integration is yet another of Vegas' strengths, including ability to output 24p MPEG2 for DVD.