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Renton Maclachlan · April 2nd, 2009, 01:25 PM

I have a green screen and can get a clean cut of my subject, and know how to put an alternative image behind my subject. What I'm inquirying about is not this technical aspect, but rather the aesthetic aspect of what to put behind the subject so as to enhance the subject, and the message (if they have a message) they are conveying. So this is a question about the art of composition.

I'm thinking specifically of a talking head type subject.

Now I know that a lot of this - perhaps all of it - is subjective, but any man and his dog can put any old photo in as a background. What not anyone can do is put an appropriate background in.

I have looked at a Photoshop tutorial for making up backgrounds for portraits which gives me some ideas, although it doesn't help me in terms of how to choose a colour for whatever sort of 'cloud' pattern is used - which the tutorial was about creating. So ideas on what colours to head for would be helpful.

Then of course, perhaps a background with some sort of content in would be preferable, though content that does not distract from the subject or the message.

If anyone knows of some guidelines, or has some pointer to answers to such questions, or tutorials, or articles, or such like, it would be appreciated. Thanks.

Bill Mecca · April 2nd, 2009, 01:34 PM

Don't have a direct answer for you, since it would all be subjective as to the message's content. If it's a simple interview, a blurred living room scene would work. If the subject is on a "news set" then a bank of monitors would work, blurring them to create the illusion of distance.

Except for the news stuff I do, I usually try to set the scene during the interview. Law books ( I work for the courts) a jury box, maybe lamp and a potted plant, or play with shadows on the wall.

I didn't do it on green screen, but for a current project, I took the organizations logo(thankfully a simplistic logo), and cut a negative of it in black foamcore and used it as a cookie, throwing the blurred shadow on the wall behind the subject. A bit of subliminal effect since it is not a clean shadow. In hindsight (and it was what I planned but in the heat of the moment forgot) was to put a blue gel on the light.

to your point, you could do the logo thing in post as well.

Buba Kastorski · April 2nd, 2009, 01:58 PM

So many things can effect your choice, topic, gender, background music, hair color, clothes color, etc.
but when I don't have time I just use radial gradient,
:)

Renton Maclachlan · April 2nd, 2009, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Mecca

Don't have a direct answer for you, since it would all be subjective as to the message's content. If it's a simple interview, a blurred living room scene would work. If the subject is on a "news set" then a bank of monitors would work, blurring them to create the illusion of distance.

Except for the news stuff I do, I usually try to set the scene during the interview. Law books ( I work for the courts) a jury box, maybe lamp and a potted plant, or play with shadows on the wall.

I didn't do it on green screen, but for a current project, I took the organizations logo(thankfully a simplistic logo), and cut a negative of it in black foamcore and used it as a cookie, throwing the blurred shadow on the wall behind the subject. A bit of subliminal effect since it is not a clean shadow. In hindsight (and it was what I planned but in the heat of the moment forgot) was to put a blue gel on the light.

to your point, you could do the logo thing in post as well.

Thanks Bill

I have the excellent DVD produced by Vortex Media "How to set up. light, and shoot great looking interviews.' They cover blurring backgrounds, practicals, shadows on walls, etc. it is very well done. So that aspect of the aesthetics I've got a grip on pretty well. I also know simplicity is critical so as to not distract from the subject.

Maybe it is just a portrait (clouds) background I need for the one I'm going to shoot shortly - just have to experiment with colours in Photoshop.

By the way, I picked up one hint from the DVD I'm going to try. They talked about starting off with a wide shot at the start of the interview and zooming in to a more closeup shot for the end - to heighten the intensity. As I'm the subject speaking to camera through a teleprompter, I've set up three cameras looking through the teleprompter, set to wide, medium, and closeup. Depending how it all works out, I could combine them in that order start to finish, or if that does actually work, pick the shot I like best. I imagine I will have to zoom appropriately on whatever background I choose.

Mike Kujbida · April 2nd, 2009, 04:21 PM

If you're shooting with an HDV camcorder and delivering on SD DVD, then shoot the whole thing on a wide shot and do your zooms/cuts to different shots in post.

I did this for a group of students the other day and they were astounded that I could do this :-)

Renton Maclachlan · April 2nd, 2009, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Kujbida

If you're shooting with an HDV camcorder and delivering on SD DVD, then shoot the whole thing on a wide shot and do your zooms/cuts to different shots in post.

I did this for a group of students the other day and they were astounded that I could do this :-)

I'm not shooting HDV and am unlikely to be any time in the future. So be it. I accept limitations in favour of other advantages...

April 2nd, 2009, 01:25 PM	#1
Renton Maclachlan Trustee Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,180	Background to talking head I have a green screen and can get a clean cut of my subject, and know how to put an alternative image behind my subject. What I'm inquirying about is not this technical aspect, but rather the aesthetic aspect of what to put behind the subject so as to enhance the subject, and the message (if they have a message) they are conveying. So this is a question about the art of composition. I'm thinking specifically of a talking head type subject. Now I know that a lot of this - perhaps all of it - is subjective, but any man and his dog can put any old photo in as a background. What not anyone can do is put an appropriate background in. I have looked at a Photoshop tutorial for making up backgrounds for portraits which gives me some ideas, although it doesn't help me in terms of how to choose a colour for whatever sort of 'cloud' pattern is used - which the tutorial was about creating. So ideas on what colours to head for would be helpful. Then of course, perhaps a background with some sort of content in would be preferable, though content that does not distract from the subject or the message. If anyone knows of some guidelines, or has some pointer to answers to such questions, or tutorials, or articles, or such like, it would be appreciated. Thanks.

April 2nd, 2009, 01:34 PM	#2
Bill Mecca Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 475	Don't have a direct answer for you, since it would all be subjective as to the message's content. If it's a simple interview, a blurred living room scene would work. If the subject is on a "news set" then a bank of monitors would work, blurring them to create the illusion of distance. Except for the news stuff I do, I usually try to set the scene during the interview. Law books ( I work for the courts) a jury box, maybe lamp and a potted plant, or play with shadows on the wall. I didn't do it on green screen, but for a current project, I took the organizations logo(thankfully a simplistic logo), and cut a negative of it in black foamcore and used it as a cookie, throwing the blurred shadow on the wall behind the subject. A bit of subliminal effect since it is not a clean shadow. In hindsight (and it was what I planned but in the heat of the moment forgot) was to put a blue gel on the light. to your point, you could do the logo thing in post as well. __________________ Award-winning Pine Barrens Documentary! Video, Audio, Music & More

April 2nd, 2009, 01:58 PM	#3
Buba Kastorski Trustee Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,414	So many things can effect your choice, topic, gender, background music, hair color, clothes color, etc. but when I don't have time I just use radial gradient, :) __________________ I love this place!

April 2nd, 2009, 04:21 PM	#5
Mike Kujbida Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Windsor, ON Canada Posts: 2,770	If you're shooting with an HDV camcorder and delivering on SD DVD, then shoot the whole thing on a wide shot and do your zooms/cuts to different shots in post. I did this for a group of students the other day and they were astounded that I could do this :-)