Vegas users, anyone use Nero 8 to capture m2t? at DVinfo.net

Jeff Harper · March 29th, 2009, 07:47 AM

I stongly dislike capturing HD in Vegas for several reasons, not the least is the fact that audio preview cannot be disabled.

I have Nero 8 and wondered if it would be a good capture utility for HDV. I would avoid installing it if it is no better than Vegas for this purpose. Nero creates driver conflicts, etc. and is a general nuisance.

Anyone use Nero 8 for capturing HDV?

Jeff Harper · March 29th, 2009, 08:55 AM

I went ahead and installed Nero, and it is very interesting, and to me, confusing.

Nero captures the HD video from my Fx1000 as mpeg2 files, not m2t. but in 1080i. It plays back in windows media player beautifully, looks like high def, and is very manageable on the Vegas timeline.

I have extremely limited understanding of hi-def.

Are these mpeg 2 files truly high-def? What is going on?

I have many hours to capture and dont want to proceed further until I know what is what, so any advice is appreciated.

Jeff Harper · March 29th, 2009, 09:38 AM

What is strange is these mpeg 2 files look identical to m2t files when played back in media players, and on the vegas timeline also.

It seems too good to be true, a more manageable HD file that has the original quality.

I have alway understood that mpeg 2 files are a delivery format, not editing.

Mike Kujbida · March 29th, 2009, 09:53 AM

Jeff, I grabbed the following from another DV Info forum. Hope it helps.

M2T is a transport stream used mostly in broadcast (and in HDV cameras) while MPEG is a program stream.

Jeff Harper · March 29th, 2009, 10:26 AM

Thank you Mike, so I guess Nero captures files to be ready for putting on DVD directly, is that it? Hmmmm.

Mike Kujbida · March 29th, 2009, 11:47 AM

Jeff, I'm not a Nero user so your guess is as good as mine :-)

For alternate capture apps, give HDV Split and CapDVHS (French site but there's an English download link) a try.

Ron Evans · March 29th, 2009, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Harper

Thank you Mike, so I guess Nero captures files to be ready for putting on DVD directly, is that it? Hmmmm.

m2t is MPEG -2 TS or MPEG-2 transport stream. Nero is just renaming the HDV native file. IF you look at the file properties you will see that they are the same whether Vegas or Nero captures the file. Nero will encode to SD on capture if you ask it to do so though( custom rather than native button), but I don't think that is what you want it for.
m2ts is another form indicating a timecode addition for each packet to ensure that packets get back in the correct order if they are stored on HDD or Flash memory and this is the file extension for AVCHD though it is MPEG4 rather than MPEG2.
Asking any of these capture programs to capture a native file will give you the same file. Some give the option of scene detection to split files on date and time( start stop changes) but if they are native they will be the same.

Ron Evans

Jeff Harper · March 29th, 2009, 03:22 PM

Thanks everyone. Mike, HDV split is working fine, thank you. It had been suggested before but I forgot about it. Great to be able to turn preview on and off.

Jeff Harper · March 29th, 2009, 03:45 PM

Ron, you are correct, the files are essentially the same. I was wrong, the mpg versions are no different than the m2t files...they were just small samples and at the time of download seemed quicker.

March 29th, 2009, 07:47 AM	#1
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Vegas users, anyone use Nero 8 to capture m2t? I stongly dislike capturing HD in Vegas for several reasons, not the least is the fact that audio preview cannot be disabled. I have Nero 8 and wondered if it would be a good capture utility for HDV. I would avoid installing it if it is no better than Vegas for this purpose. Nero creates driver conflicts, etc. and is a general nuisance. Anyone use Nero 8 for capturing HDV?

March 29th, 2009, 08:55 AM	#2
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	I went ahead and installed Nero, and it is very interesting, and to me, confusing. Nero captures the HD video from my Fx1000 as mpeg2 files, not m2t. but in 1080i. It plays back in windows media player beautifully, looks like high def, and is very manageable on the Vegas timeline. I have extremely limited understanding of hi-def. Are these mpeg 2 files truly high-def? What is going on? I have many hours to capture and dont want to proceed further until I know what is what, so any advice is appreciated.

March 29th, 2009, 09:38 AM	#3
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	What is strange is these mpeg 2 files look identical to m2t files when played back in media players, and on the vegas timeline also. It seems too good to be true, a more manageable HD file that has the original quality. I have alway understood that mpeg 2 files are a delivery format, not editing.

March 29th, 2009, 09:53 AM	#4
Mike Kujbida Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Windsor, ON Canada Posts: 2,770	Jeff, I grabbed the following from another DV Info forum. Hope it helps. M2T is a transport stream used mostly in broadcast (and in HDV cameras) while MPEG is a program stream.

March 29th, 2009, 10:26 AM	#5
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Thank you Mike, so I guess Nero captures files to be ready for putting on DVD directly, is that it? Hmmmm.

March 29th, 2009, 11:47 AM	#6
Mike Kujbida Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Windsor, ON Canada Posts: 2,770	Jeff, I'm not a Nero user so your guess is as good as mine :-) For alternate capture apps, give HDV Split and CapDVHS (French site but there's an English download link) a try.

March 29th, 2009, 03:22 PM	#8
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Thanks everyone. Mike, HDV split is working fine, thank you. It had been suggested before but I forgot about it. Great to be able to turn preview on and off.

March 29th, 2009, 03:45 PM	#9
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Ron, you are correct, the files are essentially the same. I was wrong, the mpg versions are no different than the m2t files...they were just small samples and at the time of download seemed quicker.